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The CPU I'm using is an Intel Core i5 2300 @2.8 GHz, and my GPU is an Asus HD 6950 1GB DirectCUII. Both my CPU and GPU are reaching quite high temperatures.
The CPU idles at ~40-45°C and under heavy load reaches usually a max of around 70-75°C. My GPU idles at 45-50°C and reaches a max of 78-82°C. First of all I was wondering IF these temperatures are too high? And if so, how dangerous is this for me? I've had this PC for almost 2 years now, but I've started monitoring the temps only recently. I'm getting a little worried and I was hoping someone could tell me more about this. I have already replaced the thermal paste on the GPU, but that has not made it cooler. I do have quite a small case, and I might get a bigger one soon with a better airflow. Although I have tried running games with the case opened up, but the temperatures stayed the same. I'm using MSI Afterburner to make sure the fans of my graphics card run at 100%, because if I dont, the GPU reaches to about 90°C. This card came overclocked out of the box, I haven't overclocked it any further. I don't know if these cards are supposed to run hot, and I'm just being paranoid, so if anyone could clear that up for me than that would be great.

I run most of my games at the highest settings, on a 1920x1080 resolution. Guild Wars 2 makes my CPU the hottest, most games don't make it run hotter than 60°C.

Any help would be mutch appreciated.
 
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Being a mod, I would not want to even give an appearance of abuse of that privilege. Being aware that my personal distaste for a company's products may not be shared by those focused strictly on objective quality, I try to keep my attitude in check. Honestly, I can't claim credit for the name (I don't remember where I first saw it), but I do use it.
In any case back to the topic, one objective reason I suggest Rosewill is their tendency to include more fans with their cases. You could buy someone else's case, but then have to buy more fans to get equal cooling. Since heat is the issue here, Rosewill makes sense.
In any case, if any of you think this thread has gotten out of control, I will be happy to ask another member of the...
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Smaller systems do tend to have trouble getting rid of excess heat. With the side open, have you tried pointing a fan at it? The CPU may have trouble cooling off because of heat rising from the graphics card. More airflow through the case could help. Just adding fans doesn't help, unless they create a flow, i.e. they should not all be exhaust fans. Normally the front and side (if present) are intakes, and the rear and top (if present) are exhausts. Keep in mind that the PSU is also an exhaust, although this won't matter if it is a bottom-mounted PSU that gets its own air from beneath the case.
I try not to let graphics card fans run over 90%, as this can shorten their life.

Is there any possibility that voltages are higher than "stock?" Reset your BIOS to defaults. Since your CPU is locked, that should not undo anything you've been able to change deliberately.
 
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I should have said that I am looking for a new case. Mine is too small, and has like you said not a good airflow. There is nowere the heat can go. It all stays unnderneath the card. If you have any suggestions for a case that isn't too expensive, that would be great. My PSU is top mounted so the heat does get in the area of the motherboard and the CPU. I will try to open my case and let a big fan blow air in it, and I'll see how that turns out, Let me game back to you about that tomorow.
 
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My room is temperature is quite high lately because the summer is coming here, and the sun warms my room quite a lot. I think its around 18-20*C.
 
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Where are you located? If in the USA, many of Rosewill's cases have decent cooling, and tend to come with more fans than similarly-designed competitors' cases (e.g. CM). I've bought quite a few of their cases over the years, and most were good and none sucked.
 
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I do not live in the US, I live in the Netherlands. So I've looked on the website of Rosewill, but I don't think they sell them internationally, so i've looked at websites and stores that do, and so far I've found the Corsair Obsidian Series 350D Micro ATX, the Coolermaster Silencio 550 and the Coolermaster Centurion 5 II as cases that I might want to buy. They are not all that expensive, as the Corsair is 100 euro's, and both Coolermasters are 70 euro's. So I was wondering if you could tell me if i should go for one of those in particular? My PSU is a Corsair and my headset as well, and their products seem very decent to me. But is it worth spending 30 euro's more on it just because of it's brand?
 
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Today I replaced my case, I made sure my cable management is alright, the case has 2 120mm fans running at 800 rmp, which should be enough for now, I might get some faster running ones later, this case supports op to 3 of those so that'll be fine. So far my GPU temps have lowered with around 5-10°C. At full load a game like Guild Wars 2 get's to a max of 70°C so far, which is way better than before. Only the CPU temps haven't changed. They still idle at ~40°C at in Guild Wars 2 (so far only it that game) reaches a max of 73-75°C. I heard GW2 is very CPU demanding, like all MMO's. Are these temps still too high? I might buy a aftermarket CPU cooler next, I still use the original one from Intel (Intel Core i5 2300 @2.8 GHz).
 
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Whats wrong with coolermaster? (other then their PSUs)
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I got a Cooler Master, after i read and watched a lot of reviews of it, and the quality is acually really good. Everything felt strong and of high quality when i was building my PC into it. I don't know how it will stay overtime, but so far I'm pleased.
 
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The company is dishonest (HardwareSecrets reviews AND an interview prove this). Dishonesty should have consequences. That it does not is why this world is becoming more and more a mess. In any case, for my part I do not support dishonesty, and advocate against it. So, no CM.
 
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I have bought several cm parts and cases and have never had any issues. Idk where this dishonesty the kid speaks of is coming from but it's irrelevant.
 
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Dishonesty is not irrelevant. I'm truly sorry if you feel that way. Look at most of today's politicians, and what they are doing to their constituents, if you need a hint as to the kinds of things that happen when dishonesty is rewarded and honesty is no longer required in those who would lead us. Yes, I'm old-school. I also don't go in for political correctness, hence calling a spade a spade.
My criticism of them has nothing to do with quality. They could be the world's best (they're not, of course), and I still could not recommend them.
 
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Im not even gonna touch cbrunnems troll post, but as to smeezekitty's disbelief, theres this new thing called google...try it. It took me 3 minutes to find loads of pages with people who have uncovered the dishonesty behind their PSU's. Their cases are fine, obviously what Onus is trying to say is that a dishonest company doesn't deserve money from his wallet or any others so he wont recomend it. Now im pretty neutral on the subject, but I cant let trolls bash someone without even attempting to use google.
 
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It is well known fact to stay away from their PSUs. Cases and coolers are fine for the most part.

I guess I am alittle more tolerant and don't condemn a company because of one line of bad products if they also have decent offerings but that it just me.

Certainly up to the OP to decide overall.

I am not trying to troll. Just looking at it differently.
 
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I don't sense any trolling. I am fully aware that my attitude invites criticism.
Anyway, here's the full spiel:

In reviews of unrelated products (in this case, many of their PSUs), CM was found to be dishonest. Many companies exaggerate, or offer best-case scenarios that are unrealistic at best, but claiming protection circuits that are in fact missing is an outright lie. Here are some sample links:
LL=Liar Label, MC=Missing Circuits

1. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Extreme-2-475-W-Power-Supply-Review/1550/11
2. MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Elite-Power-350-W-Power-Supply-Review/1184/9
3. LL AND MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Elite-Power-460-W-Power-Supply-Review/1005/9
4. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-600-W-Power-Supply-Review/1034/9
5. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-550-W-Power-Supply-Review/969/9

...I think that's enough. These aren't dings for poor quality, but for dishonesty. Many others get dinged for quality; my favorite is probably the remark in HardOCP's review of the GX-650 calling it a "polished turd in a box."
So anyway, there you have it; a company which should not be supported, regardless of the quality of its other products. And get this, it gets worse. Having been called on it, they're going to pull them from the North American market and foist them off elsewhere. This per Gabriel Torres: "I had a meeting with them during Computex and, according to them, they are removing all power supplies with fake wattage from the North American market (and dumping them somewhere else)."
 
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Sorry I wasn't referring to you as a troll, cbrunnem's post was almost literally the definition of a troll post.

Not trying to fight Onus's battles just thought that, if someone is gonna call him a twelve year old for coming up with a catchy nickname, they should probably 1. Realize he is a Mod 2. Realize how ironic trolling by call someone a child is. 3. Just sit this one out if they cant even use google to disprove him. So sorry if I came across as hot under the collar that rant should probably have been directed more at cb. Like I said though not trying to fight anyones battles just proving a point...Google is your friend.
 
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Being a mod, I would not want to even give an appearance of abuse of that privilege. Being aware that my personal distaste for a company's products may not be shared by those focused strictly on objective quality, I try to keep my attitude in check. Honestly, I can't claim credit for the name (I don't remember where I first saw it), but I do use it.
In any case back to the topic, one objective reason I suggest Rosewill is their tendency to include more fans with their cases. You could buy someone else's case, but then have to buy more fans to get equal cooling. Since heat is the issue here, Rosewill makes sense.
In any case, if any of you think this thread has gotten out of control, I will be happy to ask another member of the moderation team to have a look at it. Just send me or another Moderator a PM about it.
 
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Yes, please, all I wanted was to know the reason why my temps were getting this high, that's it. It certainly wasn't meant to be a discussion over companies and their behavior. Thank you for your help, and I respect your opinion about Cooler Master and how you don't stand for their lies and dishonesty, but to me it does not matter that mutch. The quality of this case is fine and it does what it needs to do for me well. That's really all I care about. Thanks for the heads up though about this company and their bad products, next time I need a new PSU or whatever I will certainly be carefull about what I buy.

And you are right about the fans not being all that great in this case. They only run at 800rpm, but they are silent, which is one of the big advantages of this case. I might get some better ones, they are 120mm and a lot of different companies sell those, I think I'll get them from Be Silent!, I heard nothing but good things about those. And for the record, my CPU is still getting just as hot in this new case, well only in Guild Wars 2 which is extreamly CPU demanding. I still use the stock cooler so I think I'll replace that one soon as well.
 
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