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May 9, 2013 6:02:45 AM

I was originally planing on getting the alienware x51 but have been convinced that they are not very good so sticking with dell I have been looking at the xps 8500 with the i5 processor and was wondering wich video card I should get to play games like bioshock infinite and far cry 3 on medium to high settings and was thinking the amd radeon 7770, is this a good graphics card for this computer or should I select one of the other options?
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May 9, 2013 6:09:02 AM

What is your budget? You need at least 7790 or 650Ti Boost to run those games at playable settings. 7770 will suffer.
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May 9, 2013 6:22:04 AM

^ yes :)  gtx 660 is powerful enough
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May 9, 2013 6:27:00 AM

Depending on what graphical settings you enjoy, you might find a "lowly" HD7750 acceptable, or you might not be happy with anything less than a HD7870 or GTX660Ti.
Do you have any interest in building this yourself? You'll get a better machine and/or spend less money than you would buying a Dell, especially if you'd like to be able to upgrade it in the future.
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May 9, 2013 6:29:58 AM

Another option.. Buy the parts and pay a shop to put it together. It will be cheaper and faster than any Dell XPS.
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May 9, 2013 7:04:24 AM

I have played minecraft in the past and am just starting to get into computer gaming and I think I will get bioshock infinite and I would like it to be smooth with probably medium graphics so would the 7770 work or will I need to 660?
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May 9, 2013 7:06:04 AM

I might consider building a computer if there would be a substantial price difference ($75+) if you could provide a complete list of all the parts including a network adapter and os (win7)
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May 9, 2013 7:32:25 AM

enjoy :)  btw GTX 650 ti Boost is slightly faster than GTX 660

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($183.56 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.82 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($139.50 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $761.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-09 10:31 EDT-0400)

under 800, with superior parts
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May 9, 2013 7:45:54 AM

Under your budget but will kill games.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($183.56 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.27 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $782.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-09 10:45 EDT-0400)
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May 9, 2013 7:46:15 AM

Ok, here's a build. With $100 added for Windows, it's right around your budget.

Intel Core i5-3350P Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.3GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 69W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80637i53350P
Model #:BX80637i53350P
Item #:N82E16819116782
$179.99 $179.99
If you're interested in overclocking, you can get an i5-3570K and a Xigmatek Gaia, which will probably put you around $960.

G.SKILL NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model F3-1333C9D-8GNS
Model #:F3-1333C9D-8GNS
Item #:N82E16820231643
$58.99 $58.99
Not the cheapest, but I've had good results with G.Skill RAM.

ASRock Z77 Extreme3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:Z77 Extreme3
Item #:N82E16813157330
$124.99 -$10.00 Instant $114.99
Selected even if not overclocking because it will allow SLI later if you want it.

MSI N660 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Model #:N660 TF 2GD5/OC
Item #:N82E16814127699
Mail in Rebate Card
$214.99 -$20.00 Instant $194.99
Has a MIR, if you play that game and win. The GTX650Ti Boost is a slightly cut down 660, so it is NOT faster.

Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top ...
Model #:CHALLENGER-U3
Item #:N82E16811147060
$69.99 -$10.00 Instant $59.99
Comes with more fans than its CM HAF competitor, and (IMHO) will be higher quality.

SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power ...
Model #:SSR-550RM
Item #:N82E16817151119
$105.99 -$26.00 Instant $79.99
There are some cheaper options here, but not much, and this is a high-quality unit.

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD1002FAEX
Item #:N82E16822136533
$94.99 $94.99
The WD Black drives are the only consumer drives to have retained a five year warranty since the Thailand floods. They're also fast.

LG 24X DVD Burner - Bare Drive Black SATA Model GH24NS95 - OEM
Model #:GH24NS95
Item #:N82E16827136259
$17.99 $17.99
One optical drive is much like another.

Subtotal: $801.92
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May 9, 2013 7:48:35 AM

It looks like you could select a mix of parts from my and envy14tpe's builds to tweak in your desired direction.
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May 9, 2013 8:13:27 AM

The video card envy says I can only find it for $210 is this the rit one? Or could I substitute the 660 for a 650 or 650ti boost and still be able to get very good performance?
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May 9, 2013 9:21:38 AM

The GTX650 is only as strong as HD7750. The GTX650Ti Boost is only a little weaker than a GTX660; that one would still be decent. Between them is the GTX650Ti.

HD7750 = GTX650 < HD7770 < GTX650ti < HD7790 < HD7850 <= GTX650Ti Boost < GTX660

(Exact placement will depend on the specific game)
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May 9, 2013 9:55:02 AM

Onus said:
The GTX650 is only as strong as HD7750. The GTX650Ti Boost is only a little weaker than a GTX660; that one would still be decent. Between them is the GTX650Ti.

HD7750 = GTX650 < HD7770 < GTX650ti < HD7790 < HD7850 <= GTX650Ti Boost < GTX660

(Exact placement will depend on the specific game)

This is correct, and if you click on this it'll take you to the 660:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn660...
At that price it's a good deal. Yet, another great choice under $200:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42662k...
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May 9, 2013 11:06:25 AM

^Exactly. The HD7790 is a failure at current pricing.
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May 9, 2013 11:30:10 AM

Would the normal 650 ti be able to handle games well?
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May 9, 2013 11:34:24 AM

Because the ti boost is out of my price range
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May 9, 2013 11:39:58 AM

The GTX650Ti should meet your requirements of playing modern games on medium to high settings. I have one myself, and though I do not play modern FPS titles, it maxes all my older games, and plays GW2 on mostly High settings.
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May 9, 2013 7:32:42 PM

Are you still going to buy the Dell?
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May 10, 2013 7:14:20 AM

Nope gunna build one with the build you suggested but with a few minor tweaks
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May 10, 2013 7:15:06 AM

Although I still need some help choosing a wireless network card do you know anything about those?
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May 10, 2013 8:12:09 AM

After using $12-$15 wireless cards for years, I had the opportunity recently to test a $30 card. The difference is night and day; if you're a gamer, get the better card. This one was a dual band wireless N model.
This is the one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-704-...
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