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May 9, 2013 2:04:23 PM

Ok so as the title says I cannot decide which build would best suit me for the price I would like to pay for a PC. I have just £900 to spend, less would be preferable if possible or a little more if needed. The type of games I play are mainly MMO based, the main game I play now is LOTRO, though I would like to play games such as Skyrim and Sim City in 1920x1080 on max settings.

These are the two builds I have made:

1) Cost - £897 inc VAT

Case - Cheapest they sell :( 
CPU - i5-3570K (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard - ASUS P8Z77-M: MICRO-ATX, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI CrossFireX
RAM - 16GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 X 8GB)
GPU - 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD + 1TB HDD
PSU - 450W Quiet 80 PLUS Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan

2) Cost - £869 inc VAT

Case - InWIN MANA-136 BLACK GAMING CASE
CPU - AMD FX-6350 Six Core CPU (4.2/3.9GHZ - 8MB CACHE/AM3+)
Motherboard - ASUS® M5A97 R2.0(DDR3, USB3.0, 6Gb/s)
RAM - 16GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 X 8GB)
GPU - 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD + 1TB HDD
PSU - 650W FSP RAIDER SERIES RA-650

Both of these machines are build from PC Specialist, mainly because I am interested in using the 1 year finance option.

I would like to know:

Is the i5 3570k better than the FX - 6350?
Would the fx - 6350 be up to running the sort of games I play?
Is the 450w PSU on the first build enough?
Does the smaller case/motherboard from the first build matter?

Just so you know I will not be over-clocking which ever I do end up buying.

If you could also find a better set-up than what I have posted (but with a finance options please, and no build it yourself machines :p )

Thank you in advance and I hope I have given enough information to solve my problem as I'm looking to order in the next two weeks :) 

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May 9, 2013 2:40:00 PM

Gee, fella, if you're not overclocking, then get i5-3470 cpu, and H77 chipset motherboard - you'll save a bunch of money and 450w will be enough.

Edit: i just visited that site and to make all that happen you have to go i3 route and there'll be those components i mentioned in drop lists. You havent mentioned specifics, but whole price for this pc will be 671 pounds (maybe more for you because there's a lot of options to choose from and idk which boxes you changed) but here's my list:

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Case
STYLISH PIANO BLACK ENIGMA MICRO-ATX CASE + 2 FRONT USB
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-3470 (3.2GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® P8H77-M: M-ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s, CrossFireX™
Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (2 X 4GB)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660 - 2 x DVI, HDMI, - 3D Vision Ready
Free Item
FREE METRO: LAST LIGHT GAME with GTX 660 & UPWARDS GPUs!
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
450W Quiet 80 PLUS Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
Processor Cooling
INTEL SOCKET LGA1155 STANDARD CPU COOLER
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1

Price: Ј671.00 including VAT and delivery.
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May 9, 2013 3:18:41 PM

Yeah, if you're not overclocking, skip the K-series and get an H77 board. As for i5 vs FX, it depends on what you're doing. If mainly gaming, I'd go with the i5 for the lower power consumption ( and you won't lose any gaming performance. ) The FX will best the i5 in terms of heavy professional applications like video editing and 3D design though.

Working down your list, while you can get a nice case for cheap, don't go bare-bones. Spend enough to get a solid, rigid case. $70 USD or less should be fine.

You can drop to 8GB of RAM and save more money. 16GB is pretty superfluous unless you're a professional designer or running multiple VMs while gaming.

I prefer the 7870 ( or better the 7870 Taghiti LE ) to the 660 because of the 660's memory limitations. But if you're only playing LotRO and Skyrim on a single display, you shouldn't have a problem with it.

If you can spare the cash, upgrade the SSD to 256GB for better storage and performance.

A solid 500W PSU from Antec, Corsair, FSP, Seasonic, or XFX will be enough to run any single GPU card. If you wan't to SLI/Crossfire, step up to a 650W.
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May 9, 2013 3:20:13 PM

My tip would be to buy the stuff and build it yourself or get some help with building it.

Intel system - I will comment this tomorrow as it's late but it's a good setup with optical drive and windows 7 64bit and you might want to wait for GTX 780 which is 200, assuming it costs £388 (599$), more than Tahiti LE
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May 9, 2013 3:31:37 PM

butremor said:


Edit: i just visited that site and to make all that happen you have to go i3 route and there'll be those components i mentioned in drop lists. You havent mentioned specifics, but whole price for this pc will be 671 pounds (maybe more for you because there's a lot of options to choose from and idk which boxes you changed) but here's my list:


Thank you very much for pointing me down the i3 route and upgrading it to the i5 3570. That with the H77 board has saved me a lot! I will defiantly be going with this and with more money to spend on the case I am 100% happy with the build now. :) 

Thanks again for the great reply's
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May 10, 2013 1:43:12 AM

xLHJx said:
butremor said:


Edit: i just visited that site and to make all that happen you have to go i3 route and there'll be those components i mentioned in drop lists. You havent mentioned specifics, but whole price for this pc will be 671 pounds (maybe more for you because there's a lot of options to choose from and idk which boxes you changed) but here's my list:


Thank you very much for pointing me down the i3 route and upgrading it to the i5 3570. That with the H77 board has saved me a lot! I will defiantly be going with this and with more money to spend on the case I am 100% happy with the build now. :) 

Thanks again for the great reply's


Have you looked at my suggestion? without windows, the cpu cooler and the optical drive you will come at 680 which is a great value for the components that are in there; you have psu that has 80PLUS Gold meaning the energy bill will be smaller, it's completely modular making it comfortable to with when building the computer, you will be able to to add another card that requires more power. The case has very good quality and it's easy to install - the hdd cages can be removed for more space, there is enough room to install cpu water coolers and has noise cancelling material. Titan LE can perform like 7950 when it's overclocked (you can with ease overclock it to 1,0GHz at stock voltage)

under 600 system

Reconsider this alternative
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