Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

First build after tons of researching

Last response: in Systems
Share
May 9, 2013 10:37:45 PM

Hey guys. I've done tons of research these past couple months and have come down to this build below.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/thecrazyman/saved/1zTz

I already have a spare optical drive lying around somewhere, and I am currently using the power supply in the build. I know 600W is cutting it slim, but would it work? I also plan on adding an SSD later on down the road if money is plentiful enough.

Thanks!
Luke

More about : build tons researching

a b ) Power supply
May 9, 2013 10:45:36 PM

its a good build indeed and i think 600W should be just enough for your needs. although i would recommend other brands like seasonic or corsair. i don't know about thermaltake... also insted of DDR3-1866mhz memory go with DDR3-1333 or 1600 memory you won't notice any differance and extra 10-20$ isn't worth it.
m
0
l
a c 79 ) Power supply
May 9, 2013 10:52:05 PM

Drop the CPU cooler and get the coolermaster hyper 212 evo.

Get a PSU from Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, XFX. 550w will be plenty.

For the same price as that CPU + motherboard you can get an intel i5 3350p and an h77 motherboard which will be better.

If you stick with the 6300, get a cheaper motherboard. That one is overkill.

You could also get a cheaper case and use the saved money to get a better GPU or put it towards an SSD.
m
0
l
Related resources
May 9, 2013 10:54:15 PM

thecrazyman said:
Hey guys. I've done tons of research these past couple months and have come down to this build below.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/thecrazyman/saved/1zTz

I already have a spare optical drive lying around somewhere, and I am currently using the power supply in the build. I know 600W is cutting it slim, but would it work? I also plan on adding an SSD later on down the road if money is plentiful enough.

Thanks!
Luke


Very nice build. There are three things I would alter:
1: Knock the case down to an NZXT Phantom 410 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006I2H084/?tag=pcpapi-20). It's a very solid case, and it costs less (with that sale). It was ranked as best out of 15 mid-range cases Tom's tested, beating the 300R and 200R, which are your case's younger brothers. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/solo-ii-400r-buc-ra...
2: Take the CPU cooler down to a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...). It's a good cooler, and very reasonably priced.
3: use the savings to get a PSU from Antec, Corsair, or SeaSonic. I don't trust Thermaltake PSUs.

Edit: Tiny beat me to the punch.
m
0
l
a b ) Power supply
May 9, 2013 11:12:07 PM

You want to spend $125 on a CPU and $158 on a motherboard? This is backwards. Look for the ASRock 970 Extreme 4. You would save $58. Then use the money for a great/reliable PSU.

Also, the PSU is so so. Upgrade to XFX.
This is your updated build, with the Sapphire 7870XT.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($126.46 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.84 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($134.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $952.22
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-10 02:11 EDT-0400)
m
0
l
May 10, 2013 5:25:56 AM

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I looked around for a new case and came up with two choices.

The Xion XON-980-BK Black
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xion-case-xon980bk

Corsair Carbide 300R Windowed
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-300rwindowed

The mobo choice doesn't really make that much sense now that I look at it. I just chose one that looked nice and had some good reviews. Haha! As far as that goes, how does this one look? It's a bit cheaper than the one envy suggested.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970extr...

Thanks for the thoughts on the PSU too. Will definitely buy a new one in the near future.
m
0
l
a b ) Power supply
May 10, 2013 6:52:31 AM

thecrazyman said:
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I looked around for a new case and came up with two choices.

The Xion XON-980-BK Black
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xion-case-xon980bk

Corsair Carbide 300R Windowed
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-300rwindowed

The mobo choice doesn't really make that much sense now that I look at it. I just chose one that looked nice and had some good reviews. Haha! As far as that goes, how does this one look? It's a bit cheaper than the one envy suggested.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970extr...

Thanks for the thoughts on the PSU too. Will definitely buy a new one in the near future.

Just trying to help you get your moneys worth and have a high quality system.

I like the 300R. And the Extreme 3 is damn good too. Only real difference is that the Extreme 4 can support 2 x AMD GPUs but the Extreme 3 can't. But they both can run 2 x Nvidia GPUs. Also, the Extreme 4 is wider by an inch.

PSU, you really should get that XFX 550. It is plenty of power for your system, and made by Seasonic. The Thermaltake PSU you listed is passable, but the XFX is great.
m
0
l
May 10, 2013 7:01:09 AM

another case option is the 912 HAF but cooler master. one of my favorites that i personally own.
m
0
l
a b ) Power supply
May 10, 2013 7:21:48 AM

Right now the price of the Corsair 300 is the same price as the Corsair 400. But the 400 comes with more fans. I'd lean to
the 400 at the same price, but deal ends in a week.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($125.92 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($253.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($134.97 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $907.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-10 10:19 EDT-0400)
m
0
l
May 10, 2013 7:58:31 AM

envy14tpe said:
Right now the price of the Corsair 300 is the same price as the Corsair 400. But the 400 comes with more fans. I'd lean to
the 400 at the same price, but deal ends in a week.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($125.92 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($253.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($134.97 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $907.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-10 10:19 EDT-0400)


As of right now, I don't have plans to crossfire. AMDs driver issue with microstaggering is getting better, but still very noticeable. Call me weird, I just prefer a single GPU at the moment.

m
0
l
a b ) Power supply
May 12, 2013 1:14:41 AM

@thecrazyman I too think one GPU is a better plan than crossfire/sli. If my GPU stops keeping up with games then I'll sell it and upgrade.

I suggested a good motherboard to give your system a good and stable overclock. I'm sure you'll reach 4.5GHz or more.
m
0
l
May 12, 2013 7:32:38 PM

envy14tpe said:
@thecrazyman I too think one GPU is a better plan than crossfire/sli. If my GPU stops keeping up with games then I'll sell it and upgrade.

I suggested a good motherboard to give your system a good and stable overclock. I'm sure you'll reach 4.5GHz or more.


Ah alright. I was looking for mobos that are more aesthetically pleasing, but the extreme4 has grown on me. I will hopefully begin in the build in a couple weeks.

As for the ram, a guy mentioned earlier that I won't notice much of a difference with the 1866 from the 1600. What is your opinion on that?
m
0
l
a b ) Power supply
May 12, 2013 8:53:57 PM

thecrazyman said:
envy14tpe said:
@thecrazyman I too think one GPU is a better plan than crossfire/sli. If my GPU stops keeping up with games then I'll sell it and upgrade.

I suggested a good motherboard to give your system a good and stable overclock. I'm sure you'll reach 4.5GHz or more.


Ah alright. I was looking for mobos that are more aesthetically pleasing, but the extreme4 has grown on me. I will hopefully begin in the build in a couple weeks.

As for the ram, a guy mentioned earlier that I won't notice much of a difference with the 1866 from the 1600. What is your opinion on that?


It's true. 1600 vs 1866, not much difference. 1600 is the sweetspot for normal computer users and gamers. However, sometimes RAM is on sale and you can get 1866 at a 1600 price, so might as well grab the 1866. It comes down to the price. There was an extensive test of RAM done on the Sandy Bridge platform. Essentially it proved that 1600 is the way to go.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...
m
0
l
a b ) Power supply
May 12, 2013 10:22:52 PM

You asked about 990FX Extreme 3 vs 970 Extreme 3. The major difference is in the ability to run 2 GPUs. For a one GPU system I wouldn't recommend the 990FX Extreme 3. If you were to spend more money on the motherboard then I'd say to spend more money on the CPU instead. I looked back at your system and made small alterations to give you an increase in performance while keeping the cost the same.

Two options. The first will run cooler, but the second will be faster. You won't notice the difference in games and most builders would probably suggest the second option.

Also, when you are buying a 970 Extreme 3 there are 2 versions. The newer version has front USB 3.0 so you can attack a USB 3.0 device in the front of your computer instead of only in the back. Not sure if it matters but that's why there is two versions.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8120 3.1GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($253.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $896.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-13 01:17 EDT-0400)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($253.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $901.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-13 01:19 EDT-0400)
m
0
l
May 24, 2013 10:29:54 PM

envy14tpe said:
You asked about 990FX Extreme 3 vs 970 Extreme 3. The major difference is in the ability to run 2 GPUs. For a one GPU system I wouldn't recommend the 990FX Extreme 3. If you were to spend more money on the motherboard then I'd say to spend more money on the CPU instead. I looked back at your system and made small alterations to give you an increase in performance while keeping the cost the same.

Two options. The first will run cooler, but the second will be faster. You won't notice the difference in games and most builders would probably suggest the second option.

Also, when you are buying a 970 Extreme 3 there are 2 versions. The newer version has front USB 3.0 so you can attack a USB 3.0 device in the front of your computer instead of only in the back. Not sure if it matters but that's why there is two versions.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8120 3.1GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight II SD1283 Night Hawk Edition 89.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($253.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $896.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-13 01:17 EDT-0400)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($253.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $901.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-13 01:19 EDT-0400)

Sorry for the late reply. But what about a 8320? It's right in the middle, a little bit better on the wallet and peformance too. I had honestly never even looked at 8 cores just because I don't think I would ever do anything that CPU intensive.
m
0
l
a b ) Power supply
May 24, 2013 11:22:49 PM

Once your CPU has reached 4 cores the performance difference isn't that big whether it's six or eight. You gotta look at benchmarks that compare how the 8 core does compared to a 4 core system. The 8320 is good, you could get that instead of the 8350 in the second build I made.

Save $30 and get the 8320. According to the review, overclocking the 8350 reached 4.7GHz and the 8320 reached 4.6GHz. Point is the 8320 overclocks really well. It's a good buy.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-83...
m
0
l
!