Will this gaming pc build work?

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

AMD FX-8350 // 8GB ram // ATi sapphire 7770
CPU (AMD FX-8350)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76932&vpn=FD8350FRHKBOX&manufacture=AMD&promoid=1202

Motherboard
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62403&vpn=GA%2D990FXA%2DUD3&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1202
(((OR))
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&vpn=GA%2DB75M%2DD3H&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1202

Case
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57910&vpn=Z9%20Plus&manufacture=ZALMAN%20TECH&promoid=1202

Dvd drive
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW%2D24B1ST%20Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1202

Graphics card
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=73018&vpn=HD7770%2DDC%2D1GD5%2DV2&manufacture=ASUS

Ram
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&vpn=KHX1600C9D3B1K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1202

Comes to around $570 before taxes with the more expensive mother board but do I need it or will the second mother board do fine? And will these parts all work together? I already have a hard drive, power supply 400watt and windows 7.
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Or should I switch the mother board and cpu to the i5 option around $625

CPU ( i5 3570k)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541&vpn=BX80637I53570K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1202

Motherboard:
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=71114&vpn=P8Z77%2DV%20LK&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1360

This is my first build for whatever the 7770 can handle at 1680x1050 max. What one should choose and are the parts i picked out compatable?

My price range was $600-700 cheaper the better in my case. Thanks!

ksham · May 11, 2013

Do you plan to overclock?

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

ksham :

Possibly, what if I and do and what if i dont?

ksham · May 11, 2013

If you do overclock, you'll also need a CPU cooler as well as a compatible CPU and motherboard for overclocking. If you're asking that question, I'm going to assume that you don't know how to overclock.

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

ksham :

Probably not then.

ksham · May 11, 2013

Is this good enough for you?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.87 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $629.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

ksham :

Is this good enough for you?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.87 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $629.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

The Phenom II is better than the i5 not overclocked?

ksham · May 11, 2013

No; definitely not. The Intel Core i5 is superior to the AMD Phenom II X4 965 in every way.

ingtar33 · May 11, 2013

your 2nd mb in the first build is an intel mb and not compatible with that cpu.

I would suggest you scale your cpu back from that fx8350 to an fx6300 and spend the savings on a better cpu cooler, and a better video card. Your build is unbalanced in the wrong direction. you should be aiming to spend 200-300 on the gpu, and 100-150 on the cpu.

Even low end cpus are pretty good these days, and the difference between a 7770 and a 7870 is pretty extreme.

n1ghtr4v3n · May 11, 2013

first of all, the second board is a LGA1155 which is not compatible with fx8350. the first board is a good choice but its also overclocker type of a board. since you dont plan to overclock you go for 970fx series chipsets which is significantly cheaper than 990fx.

8350 is a good choice comes with default 4.0G you will not need to overclock it in close future anyways.

if you plan to buy an intel instead go for 3570 or 3770 (non-K versions, since they are intended for overclockers and comes for higher price)

for a 3570/3770 you can select any H77 chipset boards. Z77 version are also overclockers type.

7770 is an older card. you can get a 2gb version of 650ti for a similar price which is better in my opinion.

so here you go....
(other parts are just personal taste so im not directing you with those)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.55 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $472.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-11 04:07 EDT-0400)

2.nd option with intel
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.17 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $489.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-11 04:09 EDT-0400)

good luck

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

n1ghtr4v3n :

first of all, the second board is a LGA1155 which is not compatible with fx8350. the first board is a good choice but its also overclocker type of a board. since you dont plan to overclock you go for 970fx series chipsets which is significantly cheaper than 990fx.

8350 is a good choice comes with default 4.0G you will not need to overclock it in close future anyways.

if you plan to buy an intel instead go for 3570 or 3770 (non-K versions, since they are intended for overclockers and comes for higher price)

for a 3570/3770 you can select any H77 chipset boards. Z77 version are also overclockers type.

7770 is an older card. you can get a 2gb version of 650ti for a similar price which is better in my opinion.

so here you go....
(other parts are just personal taste so im not directing you with those)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.55 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $472.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-11 04:07 EDT-0400)

2.nd option with intel
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.17 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $489.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-11 04:09 EDT-0400)

good luck

In your opinion out of the 3 builds including ksham's build what one do you think would be the best?

Also I cant get parts from microcenter cause im in canada. NCIX would be the best and newegg.ca

n1ghtr4v3n · May 11, 2013

skollin1 :

n1ghtr4v3n :

In your opinion out of the 3 builds including ksham's build what one do you think would be the best?

phenom x2 is an older cpu but a good one for budget builds. but if you are thinking to buy fx8350 its no match...
if you can afford 660 is a better gpu than 650ti. i'd select 660 too.

my personal opinion is to get: (if you can afford ofc. / also its a non-overclocking system)
i5-3570 cpu
h77 board
gtx660 gpu
2x4GB 1600MHz memories
around 450-550W psu

rest is not really important (performance wise...)

ksham · May 11, 2013

I could've made it better, but the budget was $600-$700 CAD. And with all your links from NCIX, I wanted to stick with it because I assumed that's where you want to purchase parts from. There's only so much I could put into the build without going over. I technically wanted to keep below $625 or so. I could've gone for the max of $700. I'll post up a new build in a sec.

Now, the Phenom CPU that I put up may be older, but it works great. It won't bottleneck the GPU and in a gaming build, it's usually more GPU-intensive than CPU-intensive. If you run into a game that's more CPU-intensive, then there may be a bottleneck between having a Intel Core i5 and the Phenom 965.

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

n1ghtr4v3n :

skollin1 :

phenom x2 is an older cpu but a good one for budget builds. but if you are thinking to buy fx8350 its no match...
if you can afford 660 is a better gpu than 650ti. i'd select 660 too.

my personal opinion is to get: (if you can afford ofc. / also its a non-overclocking system)
i5-3570 cpu
h77 board
gtx660 gpu
2x4GB 1600MHz memories
around 450-550W psu

rest is not really important (performance wise...)

Thanks alot ill add that up and see what happens

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

ksham :

I could've made it better, but the budget was $600-$700 CAD. And with all your links from NCIX, I wanted to stick with it because I assumed that's where you want to purchase parts from. There's only so much I could put into the build without going over. I technically wanted to keep below $625 or so. I could've gone for the max of $700. I'll post up a new build in a sec.

Now, the Phenom CPU that I put up may be older, but it works great. It won't bottleneck the GPU and in a gaming build, it's usually more GPU-intensive than CPU-intensive. If you run into a game that's more CPU-intensive, then there may be a bottleneck between having a Intel Core i5 and the Phenom 965.

Sweet. well since you adding tax i can do $750

ksham · May 11, 2013

Upped the GPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.32 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $700.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

ksham :

Well I already have a harddrive. What if i upgraded to i5 and got the cheaper gpu? Or this is still a better solution?

ksham · May 11, 2013

Why would you get a cheaper GPU on a gaming build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.32 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($279.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $680.26
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

n1ghtr4v3n · May 11, 2013

skollin1 :

i5/i7 is the top notch,. even fx8350 is failing to compete with them when it comes to strictly gaming. so yea if you can afford it go for that.
but to be honest lowering the gpu (especially when you intend to gaming) is not a good choice.

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

ksham :

Why would you get a cheaper GPU on a gaming build?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.32 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($279.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $680.26
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/quotem
Not sure lol ive just been trying to learn these few days because the stores have really bad combinations for what yur paying. Ill probablly end up buying what your listing for me. I see you changed the cpu and gpu again so hopefully this will do. Thanks alot for your time!

n1ghtr4v3n · May 11, 2013

skollin1 :

ksham :

replace the cpu with fx8350 or 8320 (they are totally similar other than frequency)
and you can use this build. its pretty solid.

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

n1ghtr4v3n :

skollin1 :

I might be able to replace with the AMD FX-8320 8 Core Processor for $40 more would i benifit a lot and it would still work fine with this bord right?

ksham · May 11, 2013

You would only benefit from the few games that is CPU-intensive. But if you have $40 to spare, upgrade your GPU. A FX-8320 + GTX 660 Ti will perform worse than a FX-6300 + GTX 670 / HD 7970.

n1ghtr4v3n · May 11, 2013

for 40$ only, it worths. you will be using this cpu for at least 4-5 years. if you consider you arent going to overclock it. why to bother getting an old cpu with less frequency.
it will keep you happy enough. and yes it will work just fine on any AM3+ socket board.

skollin1 · May 11, 2013

ksham :

Alright ill just stick to the 6300 and 660. Also whats the difference between this gpu and the one you linked before that was also a 660 but $189

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