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May 12, 2013 2:55:00 AM

so yh im making a new build nd i need u guys 2 tell me if its ok.

In all seriousness i have been working on the build specs and budget management for a good while now and need your expert-ness to tell me if its alright?

also ill be using an intel core i7 3770k. is it possible using my current cooler to overclock to 4.4ghz or more? if so, how much more? would another cpucooler let me overclock more?.

CPU:Intel 3rd Generation Core i7-3770K CPU:£248.54
MOBO:AsRock Z77 Extreme6 Motherboard:£132.17
GPU:Asus HD 7870 AMD Radeon:£194.50
RAM:Corsair 16 GB Vengeance 1600 MHz PC Memory:£107.00
CASE:CiT Mars Midi Tower Gaming Case:£37.25
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99


Thanks!

EDIT: forgot to put the specs :D 
May 12, 2013 3:08:58 AM

sorry, forgot to paste the specs :)  thanks for your interest
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May 12, 2013 3:12:21 AM

is there any reason why you would want to overclock it to 4.4 ghz or higher?

but ya. that cooler should get you to 4.4 ghz.

If you don't mind having a big air cooler in the case, you should consider the Noctua NH-D14 (which around 20 pounds cheaper) and provides better cooling.
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a b K Overclocking
May 12, 2013 3:16:45 AM

h80i cooler is compatible with i7-3770k (lga1155 socket to be precise)

here is a review of it with i7-3770k
http://m.hardocp.com/article/2013/02/12/corsair_hydro_s...

asrock z77 extreme 6 is also good board

personally i like gskill sniper over vengance :p  , small heat sink and better overclocking potential and stability than vengence (old revisions)

hd7870 is also good though hd7870XT (see the XT) is also close to hd7870 in price and provide better performance

though overall it is a nice build
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May 12, 2013 3:19:52 AM

What is the intended use of this build? Video editing? Gaming?
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May 12, 2013 3:21:13 AM

thank everyone, the reason i need it at 4.4ghz or more (maybe 5ghz) i because i've dropped doing more stuff and and just want a quick pc that can do lots of different things.

ill check out the noctua cooler too, and the 7870xt
thanks guys
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May 12, 2013 3:21:46 AM

Jack Revenant said:
What is the intended use of this build? Video editing? Gaming?


all of those. not one specific thing
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May 12, 2013 3:23:28 AM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
What is the intended use of this build? Video editing? Gaming?


all of those. not one specific thing


If they are of equal priority, I would start cutting cooling and investing in graphics. You don't need a massive overclock on the i7-3770k to do either editing or gaming, and you could get a much more powerful GPU for what you'd save.

Edit: Having run the numbers, I estimate that by reducing the cooler to a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, and the mobo to a Extreme4, you could squeeze in at least a 7950.
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May 12, 2013 3:29:24 AM

okay i looked at the noctua and its too big!
the 7870 xt look good, it seems to be more powerful than the stock version and is 10 quid cheaper
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May 12, 2013 3:30:36 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
What is the intended use of this build? Video editing? Gaming?


all of those. not one specific thing


If they are of equal priority, I would start cutting cooling and investing in graphics. You don't need a massive overclock on the i7-3770k to do either editing or gaming, and you could get a much more powerful GPU for what you'd save.


you don't even need that much of a overclock to do either... regular productivity performance is mostly determined by the HDD/SSD speed.
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May 12, 2013 3:30:42 AM

Flomps said:
okay i looked at the noctua and its too big!
the 7870 xt look good, it seems to be more powerful than the stock version and is 10 quid cheaper


The XT isn't actually a variant of the 7870, it's a variant of the 7950 (AMD sucks at naming products). It is very powerful for its price.
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May 12, 2013 3:31:53 AM

okay, ill read all the posts first. you guys post 10 when i post one :p 
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May 12, 2013 3:40:26 AM

i have decided to get the 7870 xt, keep my cooler h80i.

does the 7870 xt have 2 hdmi ports, as i want to hook up 2 1080p monitors 27 inches?
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May 12, 2013 3:46:00 AM

Flomps said:
i have decided to get the 7870 xt, keep my cooler h80i.

does the 7870 xt have 2 hdmi ports, as i want to hook up 2 1080p monitors 27 inches?


I do not believe that the 7870 XT has two HDMI ports. All the spec sheets I can find for it list it as having one.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to keep the H80i? The gains you'll be getting from it are much lower than what you would get from a better GPU in gaming, and you likely won't notice the difference elsewhere.

Edit: That is, the gains from the overclock it would allow.
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May 12, 2013 4:01:32 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
i have decided to get the 7870 xt, keep my cooler h80i.

does the 7870 xt have 2 hdmi ports, as i want to hook up 2 1080p monitors 27 inches?


I do not believe that the 7870 XT has two HDMI ports. All the spec sheets I can find for it list it as having one.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to keep the H80i? The gains you'll be getting from it are much lower than what you would get from a better GPU in gaming, and you likely won't notice the difference elsewhere.

Edit: That is, the gains from the overclock it would allow.

h80i is just easy to use, and is small.

can i use one of those external "gpu's" to get the 2nd monitor working?
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May 12, 2013 4:10:37 AM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
i have decided to get the 7870 xt, keep my cooler h80i.

does the 7870 xt have 2 hdmi ports, as i want to hook up 2 1080p monitors 27 inches?


I do not believe that the 7870 XT has two HDMI ports. All the spec sheets I can find for it list it as having one.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to keep the H80i? The gains you'll be getting from it are much lower than what you would get from a better GPU in gaming, and you likely won't notice the difference elsewhere.

Edit: That is, the gains from the overclock it would allow.

h80i is just easy to use, and is small.

can i use one of those external "gpu's" to get the 2nd monitor working?


Easier than a fan? As you will, I suppose.

You could also use an HDMI splitter. However, the XT also has minDisplay Ports and a DVI connector, so if your monitors support either of those, you wouldn't need to worry, to my understanding (disclaimer: I have only run single-monitor systems up to this point, so I can't be sure).

Edit: Or, as truegenius said, a DVI to HDMI adaptor.
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May 12, 2013 4:14:01 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
i have decided to get the 7870 xt, keep my cooler h80i.

does the 7870 xt have 2 hdmi ports, as i want to hook up 2 1080p monitors 27 inches?


I do not believe that the 7870 XT has two HDMI ports. All the spec sheets I can find for it list it as having one.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to keep the H80i? The gains you'll be getting from it are much lower than what you would get from a better GPU in gaming, and you likely won't notice the difference elsewhere.

Edit: That is, the gains from the overclock it would allow.

h80i is just easy to use, and is small.

can i use one of those external "gpu's" to get the 2nd monitor working?


Easier than a fan? As you will, I suppose.

You could also use an HDMI splitter. However, the XT also has minDisplay Ports and a DVI connector, so if your monitors support either of those, you wouldn't need to worry, to my understanding (disclaimer: I have only run single-monitor systems up to this point, so I can't be sure).

Edit: Or, as truegenius said, a DVI to HDMI adaptor.


you can get those? ill just get an adaptor then.
P.S: a fan i dont believe can cool a processor more than a water cooler. never used a watercooler so i dont know, heh heh
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May 12, 2013 4:19:26 AM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
i have decided to get the 7870 xt, keep my cooler h80i.

does the 7870 xt have 2 hdmi ports, as i want to hook up 2 1080p monitors 27 inches?


I do not believe that the 7870 XT has two HDMI ports. All the spec sheets I can find for it list it as having one.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to keep the H80i? The gains you'll be getting from it are much lower than what you would get from a better GPU in gaming, and you likely won't notice the difference elsewhere.

Edit: That is, the gains from the overclock it would allow.

h80i is just easy to use, and is small.

can i use one of those external "gpu's" to get the 2nd monitor working?


Easier than a fan? As you will, I suppose.

You could also use an HDMI splitter. However, the XT also has minDisplay Ports and a DVI connector, so if your monitors support either of those, you wouldn't need to worry, to my understanding (disclaimer: I have only run single-monitor systems up to this point, so I can't be sure).

Edit: Or, as truegenius said, a DVI to HDMI adaptor.


you can get those? ill just get an adaptor then.
P.S: a fan i dont believe can cool a processor more than a water cooler. never used a watercooler so i dont know, heh heh


A fan can easily outcool a water cooler. It varies by the specific cooler. If you're talking about the highest-end closed-loop coolers (H110, NZXT Kraken x60), then you're right. There are no fan coolers which can keep up with them. However, your H80i is handily beaten by a number of fan coolers, including the previously suggested Noctua DH14. That said, both are only needed for heavy overclocking.
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May 12, 2013 6:06:53 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
i have decided to get the 7870 xt, keep my cooler h80i.

does the 7870 xt have 2 hdmi ports, as i want to hook up 2 1080p monitors 27 inches?


I do not believe that the 7870 XT has two HDMI ports. All the spec sheets I can find for it list it as having one.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to keep the H80i? The gains you'll be getting from it are much lower than what you would get from a better GPU in gaming, and you likely won't notice the difference elsewhere.

Edit: That is, the gains from the overclock it would allow.

h80i is just easy to use, and is small.

can i use one of those external "gpu's" to get the 2nd monitor working?


Easier than a fan? As you will, I suppose.

You could also use an HDMI splitter. However, the XT also has minDisplay Ports and a DVI connector, so if your monitors support either of those, you wouldn't need to worry, to my understanding (disclaimer: I have only run single-monitor systems up to this point, so I can't be sure).

Edit: Or, as truegenius said, a DVI to HDMI adaptor.


you can get those? ill just get an adaptor then.
P.S: a fan i dont believe can cool a processor more than a water cooler. never used a watercooler so i dont know, heh heh


A fan can easily outcool a water cooler. It varies by the specific cooler. If you're talking about the highest-end closed-loop coolers (H110, NZXT Kraken x60), then you're right. There are no fan coolers which can keep up with them. However, your H80i is handily beaten by a number of fan coolers, including the previously suggested Noctua DH14. That said, both are only needed for heavy overclocking.


there are water coolers bigger than the h100i? when was this miracle of engineering released?!
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a b K Overclocking
May 12, 2013 6:17:43 AM

guys since flomps already own h80i so investing in a new cooler is unnecessary to achieve only 4.4ghz
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May 12, 2013 6:21:17 AM

i dont already have a h80i actually, thats why im asking you guys.
also, it'd be better if i could go past 4.4ghz, upto 4.8-5.5 ghz maybe?
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May 12, 2013 6:24:09 AM

is the h110 compatible with my case? its only 10 pound or something more than the h80i
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May 12, 2013 1:05:57 PM

Flomps said:
is the h110 compatible with my case? its only 10 pound or something more than the h80i


I can't seem to find any specifications for your chosen case online, so I have no idea. I can tell you that the H110 has a 280mm radiator, and that such radiators often are not compatible with cases. I had similar problems with my NZXT Kraken x60, which caused my to change which case I selected.
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June 2, 2013 7:22:13 AM

thanks. a few more questions.
how far can i overclock the 3770k on a h80i
how far can i overclock the 3770k on a h110?
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June 2, 2013 3:17:35 PM

Flomps said:
thanks. a few more questions.
how far can i overclock the 3770k on a h80i
how far can i overclock the 3770k on a h110?


That would depend heavily on the silicon lottery. Some processors can overclock much farther than others, by simple quirk of the manufacturing process. The "default target" that I've seen most of the overclocking experts post is 4.2-4.4GHz, with everything beyond that being a factor of getting lucky on the CPU. However, I am not an overclocking expert, so I cannot say this with absolute certainty.
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June 5, 2013 10:47:43 AM

i have upgraded ny build based on these answers and ill post it shortly
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June 6, 2013 10:17:55 AM

CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle
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June 6, 2013 2:23:15 PM

Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.
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June 6, 2013 2:51:25 PM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,

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June 6, 2013 2:56:01 PM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.
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June 7, 2013 4:54:54 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.


i thought they matter depending on size. thanks!
32gb as i like to run multiple games and editing programs at the same time (which is why im getting 2 monitors now and another later on)

i'd rather go with the h80i as it is very compact and offers similar performance (albeit a little less) than the dh14
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June 7, 2013 4:58:30 AM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.


i thought they matter depending on size. thanks!
32gb as i like to run multiple games and editing programs at the same time (which is why im getting 2 monitors now and another later on)

i'd rather go with the h80i as it is very compact and offers similar performance (albeit a little less) than the dh14


Size is an issue, but again, the 410 is a big case. I'll double-check and edit my findings into this post, however.

Multiple games and editing software simultaneously? I...don't really know how to respond to that. I suppose that 24-32GB could be of use, in that case. I hadn't really considered that possibility, I admit.

Why would being compact be an issue? It will be inside the case. Also, according to the charts I'd seen, the H80 is more than a little less performance than the DH14.

Edit: Checked around, the DH14 will fit easily.

Edit 2: Having triple-checked about the cooler, I suppose it would vary by what you consider a little bit of a difference. Nonetheless, liquid cooling has some drawbacks which you could avoid by simply using an air cooler, thus my recommendation of the Noctua.
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June 7, 2013 5:15:09 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.


i thought they matter depending on size. thanks!
32gb as i like to run multiple games and editing programs at the same time (which is why im getting 2 monitors now and another later on)

i'd rather go with the h80i as it is very compact and offers similar performance (albeit a little less) than the dh14


Size is an issue, but again, the 410 is a big case. I'll double-check and edit my findings into this post, however.

Multiple games and editing software simultaneously? I...don't really know how to respond to that. I suppose that 24-32GB could be of use, in that case. I hadn't really considered that possibility, I admit.

Why would being compact be an issue? It will be inside the case. Also, according to the charts I'd seen, the H80 is more than a little less performance than the DH14.

Edit: Checked around, the DH14 will fit easily.


fine i admit it. i dont want a dh14 because i wanna say my pc is so awesome it has to be watercooled.
the noctua dosent have the sleek black n lighty uppy thing the h80i does. and also the dh14 is brown. i dont like brown that much.

all in all, i can talk about it and it also does a good job to match
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June 7, 2013 5:15:12 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.


i thought they matter depending on size. thanks!
32gb as i like to run multiple games and editing programs at the same time (which is why im getting 2 monitors now and another later on)

i'd rather go with the h80i as it is very compact and offers similar performance (albeit a little less) than the dh14


Size is an issue, but again, the 410 is a big case. I'll double-check and edit my findings into this post, however.

Multiple games and editing software simultaneously? I...don't really know how to respond to that. I suppose that 24-32GB could be of use, in that case. I hadn't really considered that possibility, I admit.

Why would being compact be an issue? It will be inside the case. Also, according to the charts I'd seen, the H80 is more than a little less performance than the DH14.

Edit: Checked around, the DH14 will fit easily.


fine i admit it. i dont want a dh14 because i wanna say my pc is so awesome it has to be watercooled.
the noctua dosent have the sleek black n lighty uppy thing the h80i does. and also the dh14 is brown. i dont like brown that much.

all in all, i can talk about it and it also does a good job to match
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June 7, 2013 5:22:46 AM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.


i thought they matter depending on size. thanks!
32gb as i like to run multiple games and editing programs at the same time (which is why im getting 2 monitors now and another later on)

i'd rather go with the h80i as it is very compact and offers similar performance (albeit a little less) than the dh14


Size is an issue, but again, the 410 is a big case. I'll double-check and edit my findings into this post, however.

Multiple games and editing software simultaneously? I...don't really know how to respond to that. I suppose that 24-32GB could be of use, in that case. I hadn't really considered that possibility, I admit.

Why would being compact be an issue? It will be inside the case. Also, according to the charts I'd seen, the H80 is more than a little less performance than the DH14.

Edit: Checked around, the DH14 will fit easily.


fine i admit it. i dont want a dh14 because i wanna say my pc is so awesome it has to be watercooled.
the noctua dosent have the sleek black n lighty uppy thing the h80i does. and also the dh14 is brown. i dont like brown that much.

all in all, i can talk about it and it also does a good job to match


Heh. I admire your honesty. Have you considered a brawnier or more efficient cooling option? The NZXT Kraken x60 is an absolute beast of a cooler (it crushes the h100i's max on silent mode), and the Kraken x40 is a much cheaper but still excellent liquid cooler.

Edit: For additional coolness points, you can change the color that the NZXT logo on the x60 glows (probably also true of the x40, but I don't have that cooler so I can't be sure).

2 Edit 2 Furious: By "much cheaper", I mean that the x40 is much cheaper than the x60, not the h80.
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June 7, 2013 9:09:52 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.


i thought they matter depending on size. thanks!
32gb as i like to run multiple games and editing programs at the same time (which is why im getting 2 monitors now and another later on)

i'd rather go with the h80i as it is very compact and offers similar performance (albeit a little less) than the dh14


Size is an issue, but again, the 410 is a big case. I'll double-check and edit my findings into this post, however.

Multiple games and editing software simultaneously? I...don't really know how to respond to that. I suppose that 24-32GB could be of use, in that case. I hadn't really considered that possibility, I admit.

Why would being compact be an issue? It will be inside the case. Also, according to the charts I'd seen, the H80 is more than a little less performance than the DH14.

Edit: Checked around, the DH14 will fit easily.


fine i admit it. i dont want a dh14 because i wanna say my pc is so awesome it has to be watercooled.
the noctua dosent have the sleek black n lighty uppy thing the h80i does. and also the dh14 is brown. i dont like brown that much.

all in all, i can talk about it and it also does a good job to match


Heh. I admire your honesty. Have you considered a brawnier or more efficient cooling option? The NZXT Kraken x60 is an absolute beast of a cooler (it crushes the h100i's max on silent mode), and the Kraken x40 is a much cheaper but still excellent liquid cooler.

Edit: For additional coolness points, you can change the color that the NZXT logo on the x60 glows (probably also true of the x40, but I don't have that cooler so I can't be sure).

2 Edit 2 Furious: By "much cheaper", I mean that the x40 is much cheaper than the x60, not the h80.


ill have a look at that, i checked and the phantom 410 has only a 240mm space so may in the end have to go with a h80i OR h100i
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June 7, 2013 10:28:01 AM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s:£50.27
CPUFAN:Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i CPU Cooler:£80.06
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99

there you go. a -ok right. by the way the first 3 ites are £0 beacause they were in the 759.99 bundle


That's a lot to spend on mobo+RAM. I would recommend a cheaper motherboard (such as an ASRock Extreme4), and only 16GB of RAM. This should save you enough to get a 770 or 7970. I would also advise using a WD Caviar Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, instead of a Caviar Green. Lastly, I would really recommend a Noctua DH14 over a H80i.


i has use of 32gb ram.
the noctua is too big.
whats the difference between the caviars?
thanks,



16Gb is all you need for editing/rendering. What do you need 32GB for?
I'm 99% sure that a DH14 can fit inside a 410. The 410 is a pretty large mid tower.
There's a hierarchy. Green is worse than Blue is worse than Black. Blue's about as low as I like to recommend.


i thought they matter depending on size. thanks!
32gb as i like to run multiple games and editing programs at the same time (which is why im getting 2 monitors now and another later on)

i'd rather go with the h80i as it is very compact and offers similar performance (albeit a little less) than the dh14


Size is an issue, but again, the 410 is a big case. I'll double-check and edit my findings into this post, however.

Multiple games and editing software simultaneously? I...don't really know how to respond to that. I suppose that 24-32GB could be of use, in that case. I hadn't really considered that possibility, I admit.

Why would being compact be an issue? It will be inside the case. Also, according to the charts I'd seen, the H80 is more than a little less performance than the DH14.

Edit: Checked around, the DH14 will fit easily.


fine i admit it. i dont want a dh14 because i wanna say my pc is so awesome it has to be watercooled.
the noctua dosent have the sleek black n lighty uppy thing the h80i does. and also the dh14 is brown. i dont like brown that much.

all in all, i can talk about it and it also does a good job to match


Heh. I admire your honesty. Have you considered a brawnier or more efficient cooling option? The NZXT Kraken x60 is an absolute beast of a cooler (it crushes the h100i's max on silent mode), and the Kraken x40 is a much cheaper but still excellent liquid cooler.

Edit: For additional coolness points, you can change the color that the NZXT logo on the x60 glows (probably also true of the x40, but I don't have that cooler so I can't be sure).

2 Edit 2 Furious: By "much cheaper", I mean that the x40 is much cheaper than the x60, not the h80.


ill have a look at that, i checked and the phantom 410 has only a 240mm space so may in the end have to go with a h80i OR h100i


Actually, according to NZXT's spec sheet, you can mount the Kraken x60 on the Phantom 410 with a minor case modification.
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June 7, 2013 11:33:09 AM

which mod? i didnt even know you could mod cases :S
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June 7, 2013 11:36:22 AM

Flomps said:
which mod? i didnt even know you could mod cases :S


Heh. You should see some of the things folks do to their cases. Click on the "Project Red Chalk" link in manofchalk's signature if you run into him for a good example.

From what I can tell (the sheet I read was vague), it would involve slightly enlarging the hole. There may be more information on NZXT's site, however.

You might also consider the excellent and non-modification-requiring Kraken x40.
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June 7, 2013 11:41:55 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
which mod? i didnt even know you could mod cases :S


Heh. You should see some of the things folks do to their cases. Click on the "Project Red Chalk" link in manofchalk's signature if you run into him for a good example.

From what I can tell (the sheet I read was vague), it would involve slightly enlarging the hole. There may be more information on NZXT's site, however.

You might also consider the excellent and non-modification-requiring Kraken x40.

i just found out my 759 bundle came with a prefitted cooler and the cpu is already oc to 4.0ghz. dont be mad though im going to upgrade within a few weeks of getting the cpu
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June 7, 2013 11:45:32 AM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
which mod? i didnt even know you could mod cases :S


Heh. You should see some of the things folks do to their cases. Click on the "Project Red Chalk" link in manofchalk's signature if you run into him for a good example.

From what I can tell (the sheet I read was vague), it would involve slightly enlarging the hole. There may be more information on NZXT's site, however.

You might also consider the excellent and non-modification-requiring Kraken x40.

i just found out my 759 bundle came with a prefitted cooler and the cpu is already oc to 4.0ghz. dont be mad though im going to upgrade within a few weeks of getting the cpu


What cooler, specifically? An upgrade may not be needed.
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June 7, 2013 12:25:39 PM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
which mod? i didnt even know you could mod cases :S


Heh. You should see some of the things folks do to their cases. Click on the "Project Red Chalk" link in manofchalk's signature if you run into him for a good example.

From what I can tell (the sheet I read was vague), it would involve slightly enlarging the hole. There may be more information on NZXT's site, however.

You might also consider the excellent and non-modification-requiring Kraken x40.

i just found out my 759 bundle came with a prefitted cooler and the cpu is already oc to 4.0ghz. dont be mad though im going to upgrade within a few weeks of getting the cpu


What cooler, specifically? An upgrade may not be needed.


Xigmatek Gaia SD128.
also whats better a 5ms ips monitor with near no bezel
or 2ms 1.5cm thick bezel ips monitor.
ill be using 3 monitors together so the no bezel thing would be cool.
i'll be playing fps's too.

heres my new build:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
CPUFAN:Xigmatek Gaia SD128
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:Western Digital 1TB internal Hard Drive:£49.99
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99
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June 7, 2013 4:15:43 PM

Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
which mod? i didnt even know you could mod cases :S


Heh. You should see some of the things folks do to their cases. Click on the "Project Red Chalk" link in manofchalk's signature if you run into him for a good example.

From what I can tell (the sheet I read was vague), it would involve slightly enlarging the hole. There may be more information on NZXT's site, however.

You might also consider the excellent and non-modification-requiring Kraken x40.

i just found out my 759 bundle came with a prefitted cooler and the cpu is already oc to 4.0ghz. dont be mad though im going to upgrade within a few weeks of getting the cpu


What cooler, specifically? An upgrade may not be needed.


Xigmatek Gaia SD128.
also whats better a 5ms ips monitor with near no bezel
or 2ms 1.5cm thick bezel ips monitor.
ill be using 3 monitors together so the no bezel thing would be cool.
i'll be playing fps's too.

heres my new build:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
CPUFAN:Xigmatek Gaia SD128
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:Western Digital 1TB internal Hard Drive:£49.99
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99


Ah. Well, not terrible, but a cut below previously mentioned options.

If you're alright with the delay, the 5ms should be alright. I don't like to go over 2ms, myself, but 5 should be acceptable.

Honestly, in your shoes, I'd cut the bundle, get some more reasonably-priced components, and get a better GPU. That said, your build is functional and none of the components are from untrustworthy brands.
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June 8, 2013 12:29:55 AM

Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
Jack Revenant said:
Flomps said:
which mod? i didnt even know you could mod cases :S


Heh. You should see some of the things folks do to their cases. Click on the "Project Red Chalk" link in manofchalk's signature if you run into him for a good example.

From what I can tell (the sheet I read was vague), it would involve slightly enlarging the hole. There may be more information on NZXT's site, however.

You might also consider the excellent and non-modification-requiring Kraken x40.

i just found out my 759 bundle came with a prefitted cooler and the cpu is already oc to 4.0ghz. dont be mad though im going to upgrade within a few weeks of getting the cpu


What cooler, specifically? An upgrade may not be needed.


Xigmatek Gaia SD128.
also whats better a 5ms ips monitor with near no bezel
or 2ms 1.5cm thick bezel ips monitor.
ill be using 3 monitors together so the no bezel thing would be cool.
i'll be playing fps's too.

heres my new build:
CPU:Intel Haswell i7 4770k :0
MOBO:Gigabyte Z87X-UD5H Z87 Motherboard:0
RAM:32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600MHz RAM Memory:0
CPUFAN:Xigmatek Gaia SD128
TOTALOFABOVES:£759.99
GPU:Sapphire HD 7870XT AMD Radeon HD:£185.39
CASE:NZXT Phantom 410:£89.99
PSU:Corsair TX750V2 Enthusiast Series 750w:£83.82
SSD:Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SSD:£73.36
HDD:Western Digital 1TB internal Hard Drive:£49.99
DVDDRIVE:LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA:£11.99


Ah. Well, not terrible, but a cut below previously mentioned options.

If you're alright with the delay, the 5ms should be alright. I don't like to go over 2ms, myself, but 5 should be acceptable.

Honestly, in your shoes, I'd cut the bundle, get some more reasonably-priced components, and get a better GPU. That said, your build is functional and none of the components are from untrustworthy brands.


theres a delay? is there another 2ms near no bezel monitorz
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June 8, 2013 2:40:23 AM

i decided to get the one i posted last
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June 8, 2013 12:50:54 PM

Flomps said:
i decided to get the one i posted last


Seems like a reasonable choice to me.

Regarding your comment, you don't intend to game on two monitors, do you? Because that will put the bezels right in the center of your field of view...
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