New Build - Gaming - $1000 or less

mikecxt

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Approximate Purchase Date: Now through this week ordering
Budget Range: $500-$1000. Would like to keep it closer to 500 if possible.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Civ 5 type games)
Are you buying a monitor: No
Do you need to buy OS: No, will be running Windows 7, already have.
Preferred Website for Parts: Newegg.com preferred, but anywhere works.
Location: USA, Virginia
Parts Preferences: AMD is fine, no real preference as long as they are a respected brand for any parts. I do prefer nVidia.
Overclocking: Maybe, if it's simple to do then sure, but it's not a big deal
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe.


Additional Comments: Giving my current gaming computer to my wife (who plays the same games with me). I need a new one. I play Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Civilization 5, and in general RTS games of one variety or another. Also looking into current WoW type games (guildwars 2, etc) as my wife plays those with me as well. I do not play first person shooters.

My current one that is now my wife's runs these games on either max settings or just slightly under, using a 9800GTX. I'm amazed by that fact, as the video card is OLD, but it gives me great performance so far. I recently built 2 office computers for about $250 each (core machine, no monitor or OS in that price) and they run fast but do not have a video card. I'm hoping I can have a reasonably similar price for a gaming machine with the addition of a video card.

Video Card. I like nVidia. Would prefer to use them. I've only had a 9800GT or GTX, GTS, not sure the extension there. I've gone through a few 9800s over the years. It's tempting to get another used one from eBay but not sure if they work with new builds or not. I know GeForce cards went though 200s, 400s, 500s, 600s, etc, but didn't really keep up to date on them. If a 9800 had me on high settings, can I get a high end 200 or 400 and have the same or better output? I don't really want to get a current generation high end card, paying $300-600 for it, when an older high end card can give me the same performance. I don't know if you only need the higher end newer cards for First Person Shooter games or something else, but the games I've listed above all use max or 1 setting below max on my current card (which is where I'm seeing it age as it's no longer 'everything' on max settings).


So please let me know. Thank you in advanced.
 

scragnoff

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:) Sweet! What I would have recommended as well. Try going for the Superb or if you can still up the budget a bit, the Excellent Tier, as the i5-3570K gives you the best bang for your buck.
 

mikecxt

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What about this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($249.70 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.79 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $810.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-14 14:07 EDT-0400)

I left out OS, Monitor, etc, stuff I already have.

Currently I'm wondering, do I need a separate CPU Cooler (none picked yet), can I downgrade anything in this list and not be affected? Such as case, differernt type of memory, power supply as I have no idea what type to use.
 

scragnoff

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Hmm, that's a great build, but you might want to get the "K" version of the 3570. It's the same price over at Amazon. The main difference is that the K version comes with an unlocked multiplier, enabling you to get a major performance increase from overlocking it.

Your motherboard is also customized for the K version (Z77), and is a great choice.

You can probably "downgrade" to another cases, just be sure to get one that can accomodate all your parts, including the length of your video card, which i'm sure can be accomodated easily (it's only 10.7"). Make sure it also has enough USB 3.0 ports for your needs, etc, and most importantly, has great cooling options.

Oh, and if you do overclock, you might want to add a cpu cooler. I suggest the 212 Evo. Good luck!
 

mikecxt

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So for a CPU cooler, do I only need it if I start overclocking? So as long as I don't overclock, I am fine without it?

Which would allow me to not buy one now, and then when/if I overclock in the future (when I have more money for a cooler, trying to keep the cost down) I can get it at that time... ?


Other question would be, is 550W too much, too little, or just right for the current configuration?
 

scragnoff

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Yup, the stock cooler is fine as long as you don't overclock.

550w would be great for your build. You can actually go lower and get 500w, but 550w is just fine. If you want to do a power requirements check, head over to an Online Power Supply Calculator Site.
 

mikecxt

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Okay the motherboard, I had picked out the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
I looked at Newegg at it, and the current of reviews for it are horrible. Perhaps a batch of defective boards is all, as the overall rating is good, the most recent seems to be over 50% saying Dead On Arrival or many other issues.

I searched the site (PCPartPicker) and there are a few other companies making the Z77, with different versions of it. I have no idea which I should be looking to get.
ASRock one is $125

Can anyone suggest a version that is still close in price that is for this processor (Looking at the K version of the processor) but not ASRock? I've got ASRock in the past and been happy, but with all the negatives recently I don't want to bother with the hassle of a bad board.

Thanks.
 

grebgonebad

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Just adding my penny's worth.

If you want great performance while keeping prices low, go for an AMD FX CPU. I have an 8350, and its blisteringly fast. But I upgraded from an 8120 (VERY cheap to buy now) which was also out of this world for the money. Just a suggestion