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May 12, 2013 12:55:32 PM

i know about paging files and what it does. but have any one tried not using a paging file on an over-clocked ram? is there any speed difference?..

is paging file really needed in a well over clocked system?

like me i got a 8gb ram over clocked.

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May 12, 2013 1:03:12 PM

One of the first things i do after reinstalling my main rig, is to drop the pagefile size to 300mb (older software sometimes crash when pagefile is disablet)

Depending on what you use your computer for, 8 Gig might be enough to run without pagefile, i usually advise people to do so when running with a bit more. to keep a decent headroom for multitasking an so on.

Doesnt really matter if the system is overclocked or not, disabling the pagefile will force the system to store everything in ram, instead of swapping to the harddrive, which results in lower performance (SSD's have helped, but ram are still a ton faster then a SSD)
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May 12, 2013 1:03:13 PM

It has nothing to do with overclocking. A page file is very slow (around 1000x slower).
It is mainly used by the OS when you run low on RAM and "pages" data in and out of ram to your hard disk.

Sometimes Windows gets over zealous and swaps out even if you have plenty of RAM. In that case, turning off the page file may make the system slightly more responsive.

In any case it is ok to do if you have enough RAM. 8gb is enough although more might be better.
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May 12, 2013 1:30:41 PM

i guess i would have to test put diffrent theories with my comp to see if it works. :) 
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May 12, 2013 11:14:52 PM

schmuckley said:
If you have 8gb or more..I'd dl a ramdisk program..make a small RAMdisk..and put the pagefile on that.384-2048 MB


Why??
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May 13, 2013 8:10:12 AM

smeezekitty said:
schmuckley said:
If you have 8gb or more..I'd dl a ramdisk program..make a small RAMdisk..and put the pagefile on that.384-2048 MB


Why??


Because some programs require a page file, no matter how much ram you have. And if you put the page file on a ramdisk it will be super quick.
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May 14, 2013 1:14:06 AM

Just get rid of the page file.

I've been running without a page file for along time now without issues.

If you have 8GB of ram you don't need it. If anything just set the page file to 1GB and be done with it, it's not important.


The guy above me, that's funny, a page file is if you run out of memory. Making a ram-disk so you can run your page file on is funny. ^_^

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May 14, 2013 2:20:05 AM

All I'v done is just reduce to page file to 1GB and moved it to a HDD (SSD based system). With 8GB you can probably get away with it, 16GB+ you definitely can.

Pagefile has more to do with the capacity of RAM you have, the RAM's performance doesn't affect the pagefile or its usage at all.
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May 14, 2013 5:54:07 AM

edogawa said:
Just get rid of the page file.

I've been running without a page file for along time now without issues.

If you have 8GB of ram you don't need it. If anything just set the page file to 1GB and be done with it, it's not important.


The guy above me, that's funny, a page file is if you run out of memory. Making a ram-disk so you can run your page file on is funny. ^_^



What you obviously dont understand, is that although that is correct, some programs REQUIRE a page file, no matter how much ram you have, hence the suggestion.

Just because you haven't encountered any problems when not running a page file, doesn't mean there are not any...
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May 14, 2013 5:55:59 AM

I don't think its even possible to get rid of it completely, the lowest you can make it is something like 300MB. Windows itself uses it for crash reports or something like that.
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May 14, 2013 7:34:06 AM

RobCrezz said:
edogawa said:
Just get rid of the page file.

I've been running without a page file for along time now without issues.

If you have 8GB of ram you don't need it. If anything just set the page file to 1GB and be done with it, it's not important.


The guy above me, that's funny, a page file is if you run out of memory. Making a ram-disk so you can run your page file on is funny. ^_^



What you obviously dont understand, is that although that is correct, some programs REQUIRE a page file, no matter how much ram you have, hence the suggestion.

Just because you haven't encountered any problems when not running a page file, doesn't mean there are not any...


Yep, that may be true for some programs, which is why I said if anything just set it to 1GB.
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May 14, 2013 10:48:18 AM

Ok perhaps some programs require a page file, but they are relatively rare.
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May 15, 2013 6:47:24 AM

thanks guys ,the lowest i have made mine is 16 mb -300mb so far had bout two crashes when playing games but the crashes are not that frequent, will keep you updated with my wacky page size theories :) 
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