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May 12, 2013 10:23:12 PM

I restarted my PC last night and it booted into chkdsk.exe. I was tired and didn't consider the fact it wanted to fix C: which is my SSD... so I let it. After a few minutes, it finished, and loaded Windows 7... that's when I knew something was wrong. The quality of the font was lower, and it said "Preparing your desktop", which as you know usually happens on a new system...

When it loaded, it showed it had moved all my desktop icons and random files into vertical rows, and the taskbar had changed to the combining setting with non-small icons... that's not how I had it. I try to change it and it just won't respond. I also can't pin anything to the task bar - I have the option, it just doesn't do anything.

The text was default low quality, I ran cttune.exe and it is as it was before.

I can't open most of my applications on C:. It gives me errors.

I had to reinstall my headset drivers.

Java and JDK seemed to be corrupt or something so I've reinstalled. They're okay now after I also redownloaded some 'corrupt' .jars.

Google Chrome has no download history or site history. When I go to Gmail, it also requires me to authorize this computer with the two-step verification. Yahoo also made me do this.

When I drag to move a window, it won't do it dynamically, but rather I'll be moving a thick black border around until I release it - moving the window to fill the border.

It's running in the native resolution (1920x1080) and the graphics card drivers say they're up to date.

No, I'm not in safe mode.

Ideas?

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a b G Storage
May 12, 2013 10:52:06 PM

Did you try system restore from a week ago or so, when everything was fine? Did you try the "system repair" from your Windows disc?
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a b G Storage
May 12, 2013 11:20:37 PM

I looked around to see if CHKDSK was a problem for SSD's. Several experts say it is OK, however a lot of people seem to have problems after using it!!??? You might want to check with your SSD manufacturer to see if they have a diagnostics utility. I would want to make sure your SSD doesn't have any problems before you try too many other things, since the whole problem started after the CHKDSK run.
More reading: It appears that CHKDSK won't hurt an SSD, but it should not be used because CHKDSK looks for bad sectors (along with other things) and SSD's don't have sectors! It was designed for HD's and should be turned off so that it will not try to run. I have 3 SSD's, W7 Pro and my computer has never tried to run CHKDSK. But you aren't alone, some others with SSD's have machines that try to Run CHKDSK. To turn CHKDSK off: ( from Microsoft Community )

1.Click the Windows "Start" menu on the desktop and click "Run" (Windows XP) or "Start Search" (Windows Vista or 7).
2.Type "regedit" in the search box and press "Enter" to launch the registry.
3.Click "+" under the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" folder to expand it. Click the "SYSTEM" folder and click the "CurrentControlSet" folder. Click the "Control" folder, then click the "Session Manager" folder.
4.Double-click "BootExecute" on the right pane. You should see the default value of the key set as autocheck autochk * (With asterisk). The asterisk (*) means Windows checks every drive for consistency. Add "/K:C" to the end of the autocheck autochk * After the addition, the final value should look like this : autocheck autochk /k:C *
5.Click "File" and click "Exit" to close the registry. Restart your computer. The disk check no longer launches at computer start up.
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May 12, 2013 11:39:11 PM

avjguy2362 said:
Did you try system restore from a week ago or so, when everything was fine? Did you try the "system repair" from your Windows disc?


I tried that. All restore points before the chkdsk couldn't be restored to.

I seem to have fixed most of the issues. The only one that remains is the taskbar and start menu. I can't pin anything to either, and the start menu is completely empty! (aside from all the stuff on the right)
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May 12, 2013 11:48:44 PM

avjguy2362 said:
I looked around to see if CHKDSK was problem for SSD's. Several experts say it is OK, however a lot of people seem to have problems after using it!!??? You might want to check with your SSD manufacturer to see if they have a diagnostics utility. I would want to make sure your SSD doesn't have any problems before you try too many other things, since the whole problem started after the CHKDSK run.
More reading: It appears that CHKDSK won't hurt an SSD, but it should not be used because CHKDSK looks for bad sectors (along with other things) and SSD's don't have sectors! It was designed for HD's and should be turned off so that it will not try to run. I have 3 SSD's, W7 Pro and my computer had never tried to run CHKDSK. But you aren't alone, some others have machines that try to Run CHKDSK. To turn CHKDSK off: ( from Microsoft Community )

1.Click the Windows "Start" menu on the desktop and click "Run" (Windows XP) or "Start Search" (Windows Vista or 7).
2.Type "regedit" in the search box and press "Enter" to launch the registry.
3.Click "+" under the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" folder to expand it. Click the "SYSTEM" folder and click the "CurrentControlSet" folder. Click the "Control" folder, then click the "Session Manager" folder.
4.Double-click "BootExecute" on the right pane. You should see the default value of the key set as autocheck autochk * (With asterisk). The asterisk (*) means Windows checks every drive for consistency. Add "/K:C" to the end of the autocheck autochk * After the addition, the final value should look like this : autocheck autochk /k:C *
5.Click "File" and click "Exit" to close the registry. Restart your computer. The disk check no longer launches at computer start up.


Thanks a lot. I just disabled it.

I ran a diagnostics tool from Corsair for my particular SSD and it seems OK.

Thanks again, now I just have to fix this start/taskbar issue. Or just ignore it.
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a b G Storage
May 12, 2013 11:52:41 PM

Frustrating! For future reference: If you use Windows backup once a week on a separate HD, You can then use system restore from those files. It will make one large system backup and then smaller files each week after that. I made a 100GB partition on a HD in an external eSata drive specifically for the backup and I just have to go in every other month to delete the oldest backups or it will keep going until the partition is full. I used it once, it works, and there is no chance that a system meltdown can effect those files. See my above post, so that you can turnoff CHKDSK so you do not have to do this again!
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May 12, 2013 11:58:45 PM

avjguy2362 said:
Frustrating! For future reference: If you use Windows backup once a week on a separate HD, You can then use system restore from those files. It will make one large system backup and then smaller files each week after that. I made a 100GB partition on a HD in an external eSata drive specifically for the backup and I just have to go in every other month to delete the oldest backups or it will keep going until the partition is full. I used once, it works, and there is no chance that a system meltdown can effect those files. See my above post, so that you can turnoff CHKDSK so you do not have to do this again!


I don't have much important data on this PC. It's mainly games and software. Anything important I back up on a skydrive or a USB, etc. Not bothered with RAID at this point. My D: is almost full anyway, haha.
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a b G Storage
May 13, 2013 12:07:31 AM

If you right click the start button>properties, there are customizations and help menus for the taskbar and start menu from the three tabs at the bottom.
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a b G Storage
May 13, 2013 12:13:59 AM

The system restore can be used to duplicate your pictures, music, and other personal file types, but I, like you, already do my own backups of those, I only have it save all the system settings (there are customization choices), there are more than you could imagine! That way when you have weird system problems like you did today, everything goes back exactly the way you had it: fonts, start menus, taskbars, etc.
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May 13, 2013 7:36:47 PM

avjguy2362 said:
The system restore can be used to duplicate your pictures, music, and other personal file types, but I, like you, already do my own backups of those, I only have it save all the system settings (there are customization choices), there are more than you could imagine! That way when you have weird system problems like you did today, everything goes back exactly the way you had it: fonts, start menus, taskbars, etc.


Okay. You've convinced me to backup :p .

And for the taskbar/start menu issue, it seems windows has lost all capabilities for pinning and remembering recent programs...

Sometimes it'll remember a recent program I have reinstalled (because it corrupted), but even then that only lasts a few hours and the start menu is cleared.

As for pinning, if I right click a program running in the taskbar (like Chrome) and select pin to taskbar, it will simply not respond. The menu will remain and it will act as though I never even clicked, if you know what I mean. Same for all other programs.

Right clicking taskbar > properties and editing settings in there doesn't change anything regardless of what I set it to. It just disregards everything I just told it. The system files must be pretty messed around. But that's the only issue I'm having now that I am noticing, aside from when I drag windows, the only thing that moves is their border.
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a b G Storage
May 13, 2013 7:48:48 PM

Did you ever try using the "repair my system" option from the Win7 DVD? It will put most system files back to normal without effecting your personal files. I would think that it would repair the taskbar and start menu problems.
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May 14, 2013 9:05:36 AM

avjguy2362 said:
Did you ever try using the "repair my system" option from the Win7 DVD? It will put most system files back to normal without effecting your personal files. I would think that it would repair the taskbar and start menu problems.


I'll give that a go right now.

Ok, I put the disc in, and it goes straight into reinstalling Windows 7... it doesn't give me the option to "repair my system". There's nothing suggesting it that I can find in the files either. I'm assuming I have to run it through the BIOS?
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a b G Storage
May 14, 2013 5:57:41 PM

Usually you have a choice, with one of them being to "repair you computer" instead of installing W7. I put my Win 7 disk in, but I can't restart right now. Looking on the disk, there is a "bootfix" and other repair type utitilies so I think you could find it. Is your Win 7 disk a standard Microsoft disk for any computer, or is it a specialized version for a laptop or Dell, HP, etc desktop? Sometimes the manufacturers have somewhat specialized versions for specific features and it may not have the traditional choices at startup of the Win7 disk. Later tonight I will restart and verify the startup choices. I have used it before, but perhaps it was ( years ago) XP or Vista, can't remember for sure. I have told lots of people to use this and most say they do in W7, so I am pretty sure it is there.
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May 15, 2013 7:30:57 AM

avjguy2362 said:
Usually you have a choice, with one of them being to "repair you computer" instead of installing W7. I put my Win 7 disk in, but I can't restart right now. Looking on the disk, there is a "bootfix" and other repair type utitilies so I think you could find it. Is your Win 7 disk a standard Microsoft disk for any computer, or is it a specialized version for a laptop or Dell, HP, etc desktop? Sometimes the manufacturers have somewhat specialized versions for specific features and it may not have the traditional choices at startup of the Win7 disk. Later tonight I will restart and verify the startup choices. I have used it before, but perhaps it was ( years ago) XP or Vista, can't remember for sure. I have told lots of people to use this and most say they do in W7, so I am pretty sure it is there.


Looking at the disk, it looks like a basic copy... it says it is 'intended for distribution with a new PC', and all it says it includes is Windows Anytime Upgrade. It also says 'for product support, contact the manufacturer of your PC.' So I'm guessing they left that out to save some money.

Anyway, have a look at this. It doesn't give me the option to 'repair boot'.



Also, I found another very odd issue.



No new folders for me.
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a b G Storage
May 15, 2013 12:38:40 PM

Kind of embarrassing, I can't get my system to boot from my DVD drive! I made sure it was first and then restarted and it clunked and then instantly started windows from my SSD, went back, double, triple checked, What the hell?!? Sorry, my problem...
OK, I found the info from Microsoft, there are several ways to get at the system repair, see if this helps:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/what-are-th...

I should have read it all, you may not have it, "(If Repair your computer isn't listed as an option, then your computer doesn't include preinstalled recovery options, or your network administrator has turned them off.)"

You can make a system repair disk:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/create-a-sy...
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May 16, 2013 3:55:15 AM

avjguy2362 said:
Kind of embarrassing, I can't get my system to boot from my DVD drive! I made sure it was first and then restarted and it clunked and then instantly started windows from my SSD, went back, double, triple checked, What the hell?!? Sorry, my problem...
OK, I found the info from Microsoft, there are several ways to get at the system repair, see if this helps:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/what-are-th...

I should have read it all, you may not have it, "(If Repair your computer isn't listed as an option, then your computer doesn't include preinstalled recovery options, or your network administrator has turned them off.)"

You can make a system repair disk:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/create-a-sy...


Alright, I'll give a repair disc a go. I've seen them used before with a forgotten W7 password, I believe...

Another problem I've found, this one a little more serious. I can't show hidden folders through the usual Organize > Folder and search options menu.

Thanks
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a b G Storage
May 16, 2013 11:16:55 AM

Unfortunately, I can't say for sure that system repair will solve all of these problems, but I do know that it can't hurt and is likely to help considering the number of odd problems you have encountered. There may very well be other problems you may not have encountered yet. I have a strong feeling that it will fix most of them, as these are primary system issues and not just add on program problems. Good luck!
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