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May 13, 2013 5:45:47 AM

Hi there, I am thinking of selling custom builds but I wondered if I purchase a windows operating system could I use it multiple times?
Or my other option is that I have a windows 7 upgrade disk and I could use that instead?

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May 13, 2013 5:52:31 AM

No you can't. You have to buy the OS for each build that you complete.
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May 13, 2013 5:52:44 AM

No. You can legally do neither of those, and when you sell a customer a computer with an operating system on it, you have to give them the key and the CD. There also might be a good chance that you have to be certified through microsoft; I'm not sure.

You're far better off selling them just the tower, either without an OS or with linux or something.
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May 13, 2013 6:13:41 AM

as someone who builds systems i can tell you there is not much profit in it. simply put,

1) everyone has a brother/cousin/uncle/sister who can do the same thing you're doing.
2) you have to compete with emachine/walmart/dell/hp crap machines with cheap chinese parts that have no life to them. You know better then to use those cheep mbs/psus/gpus that dell/emachines shoves into their junk boxes however your client won't understand and doesn't want to. he just sees the bottom line
3) the time and energy required =! the amount of money you'll make per machine
4) the real money is in corperate/business sales, and as a solo man operation you won't be able to fill a 100 computer order in a month. it isn't gonna happen, dell meanwhile can fill it for $20 more per pc, install them, give them 24/7 tech help for free, give them windows for free, and have it in their business by friday. THAT is what you'll be facing out there.

listen it's a great idea to try to use your skills to make bank. i'm not gonna tell you to do otherwise. I just want you to be reasonably certain what type of market you'll be jumping into.

If you want to make money with your skills the better money is in tech help. Geek squad is expensive, inconvenient and generally speaking... sucks. There is a LOT of money in tech support, you just need to figure out how to market your skills.

as a tip. i charge per minute.
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May 13, 2013 7:34:44 AM

ingtar33 said:
as someone who builds systems i can tell you there is not much profit in it. simply put,

1) everyone has a brother/cousin/uncle/sister who can do the same thing you're doing.
2) you have to compete with emachine/walmart/dell/hp crap machines with cheap chinese parts that have no life to them. You know better then to use those cheep mbs/psus/gpus that dell/emachines shoves into their junk boxes however your client won't understand and doesn't want to. he just sees the bottom line
3) the time and energy required =! the amount of money you'll make per machine
4) the real money is in corperate/business sales, and as a solo man operation you won't be able to fill a 100 computer order in a month. it isn't gonna happen, dell meanwhile can fill it for $20 more per pc, install them, give them 24/7 tech help for free, give them windows for free, and have it in their business by friday. THAT is what you'll be facing out there.

listen it's a great idea to try to use your skills to make bank. i'm not gonna tell you to do otherwise. I just want you to be reasonably certain what type of market you'll be jumping into.

If you want to make money with your skills the better money is in tech help. Geek squad is expensive, inconvenient and generally speaking... sucks. There is a LOT of money in tech support, you just need to figure out how to market your skills.

as a tip. i charge per minute.


I think ill still try my luck, when I've built the pc, will I need to install anything?
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May 13, 2013 8:25:03 AM

DarkLightFX said:
ingtar33 said:
as someone who builds systems i can tell you there is not much profit in it. simply put,

1) everyone has a brother/cousin/uncle/sister who can do the same thing you're doing.
2) you have to compete with emachine/walmart/dell/hp crap machines with cheap chinese parts that have no life to them. You know better then to use those cheep mbs/psus/gpus that dell/emachines shoves into their junk boxes however your client won't understand and doesn't want to. he just sees the bottom line
3) the time and energy required =! the amount of money you'll make per machine
4) the real money is in corperate/business sales, and as a solo man operation you won't be able to fill a 100 computer order in a month. it isn't gonna happen, dell meanwhile can fill it for $20 more per pc, install them, give them 24/7 tech help for free, give them windows for free, and have it in their business by friday. THAT is what you'll be facing out there.

listen it's a great idea to try to use your skills to make bank. i'm not gonna tell you to do otherwise. I just want you to be reasonably certain what type of market you'll be jumping into.

If you want to make money with your skills the better money is in tech help. Geek squad is expensive, inconvenient and generally speaking... sucks. There is a LOT of money in tech support, you just need to figure out how to market your skills.

as a tip. i charge per minute.


I think ill still try my luck, when I've built the pc, will I need to install anything?


Yes---Windows. And you'll have to pass that cost on to your customers.
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May 13, 2013 9:55:50 AM

ZippyPeanut said:
DarkLightFX said:
ingtar33 said:
as someone who builds systems i can tell you there is not much profit in it. simply put,

1) everyone has a brother/cousin/uncle/sister who can do the same thing you're doing.
2) you have to compete with emachine/walmart/dell/hp crap machines with cheap chinese parts that have no life to them. You know better then to use those cheep mbs/psus/gpus that dell/emachines shoves into their junk boxes however your client won't understand and doesn't want to. he just sees the bottom line
3) the time and energy required =! the amount of money you'll make per machine
4) the real money is in corperate/business sales, and as a solo man operation you won't be able to fill a 100 computer order in a month. it isn't gonna happen, dell meanwhile can fill it for $20 more per pc, install them, give them 24/7 tech help for free, give them windows for free, and have it in their business by friday. THAT is what you'll be facing out there.

listen it's a great idea to try to use your skills to make bank. i'm not gonna tell you to do otherwise. I just want you to be reasonably certain what type of market you'll be jumping into.

If you want to make money with your skills the better money is in tech help. Geek squad is expensive, inconvenient and generally speaking... sucks. There is a LOT of money in tech support, you just need to figure out how to market your skills.

as a tip. i charge per minute.


I think ill still try my luck, when I've built the pc, will I need to install anything?


Yes---Windows. And you'll have to pass that cost on to your customers.


Would i add all the drivers, into the box?
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May 13, 2013 11:10:07 AM

DarkLightFX said:

Would i add all the drivers, into the box?


really?

this is a serious question?

think of it this way. the person who is buying a premade pc has a certain expectations. That it will work straight out of the box flawlessly is the first. That there is some guarentee or warentee if something breaks is the second.

you will need to put the pc together, test it, make sure all the drivers are loaded, the pc software is up to date (who wants to spend the first day with their system updating it?) and that they have some sort of help if something breaks.

you'll need to supply them with all the disks for all the software as well as proper licences for that software, as well as a driver disk in the event they need to reinstall drivers.

This is why i said, building pcs isn't a profitable use of time unless you're moving a large number of units. Tech support IS profitable.
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May 13, 2013 11:34:23 AM

ingtar33 said:
DarkLightFX said:

Would i add all the drivers, into the box?


really?

this is a serious question?

think of it this way. the person who is buying a premade pc has a certain expectations. That it will work straight out of the box flawlessly is the first. That there is some guarentee or warentee if something breaks is the second.

you will need to put the pc together, test it, make sure all the drivers are loaded, the pc software is up to date (who wants to spend the first day with their system updating it?) and that they have some sort of help if something breaks.

you'll need to supply them with all the disks for all the software as well as proper licences for that software, as well as a driver disk in the event they need to reinstall drivers.

This is why i said, building pcs isn't a profitable use of time unless you're moving a large number of units. Tech support IS profitable.


Yep. One needs only to look to CyberPower as a model. For me, having CyberPower build my config was worh it. It worked out of the box, Windows 7 Professional, updated drivers. I plugged it in, installed BF3, and started playing. Two weeks later, when my card started to reach 90C, I RMA-ed it back to EVGA, and they sent me another one with no fuss.
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May 13, 2013 12:30:38 PM

If you regularly want to sell custom built PCs you have to first see what the consume wants. In your case, it would be foolish to buy parts for a PC, put it all together then sell it without having a buyer. You might be able to start a website with that idea, but then you would have to make sure consumers want a PC in the first place. It's pretty hard to get PC's sold with the declining desktop market. You might get more response from people that are having PC problems, mostly from their OS freezing, responding slowly, or they can't get something to function correctly.

Building a PC does take quite a bit of work, if you buy all the parts, you need to put it all together, make sure it all works properly and then install all the software/drivers (and update them all) that came with the parts. When handing the PC over to a client you wanna make sure everything works and that your giving the consumer everything they asked for.
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