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May 13, 2013 10:50:36 AM

I hope this question is not too daft, but do ATI Radeon releases ascend numerically? Example: If a game requires 9600 or higher does this mean a 3000 is no good?

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May 13, 2013 10:57:17 AM

The first number denotes the generation. The second and third numbers denote the tier.
Cards of the same tier ascend in power by generation (i.e. 7970 > 6970)
Cards of the same generation ascend in power by tier (i.e. 7870 > 7770)

If a game requires a 9600-series card (which won't come out till the end of the year), it likely isn't too demanding (cards marked X6X0 tend to be re-releases of old cards.) A relatively powerful 3000-series card like the 3870 could probably outperform it due to the difference in memory bandwidth, despite the 6-7ish year gap.
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May 13, 2013 11:06:56 AM

This also means that for example a older HD5870 is better than an HD7750 for example.
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May 13, 2013 11:21:18 AM

Oh fun question. Nvidia and ATI both made a 9600 model. Assuming it was ATI you referenced that was back in 2003, so yes any HD3000 series card would handle a game made for an ATI 9600. The Nvidia 9600 GT came out in 2008 and it was a much higher performing card than a ATI HD3000. The Nvidia 9600 GT was closer to a Radeon HD 4670. So if its an Nvidia 9600 GT that is the minimum spec then the HD3000 will not be powerful enough.
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May 13, 2013 12:11:32 PM

xomm said:
The first number denotes the generation. The second and third numbers denote the tier.
Cards of the same tier ascend in power by generation (i.e. 7970 > 6970)
Cards of the same generation ascend in power by tier (i.e. 7870 > 7770)

If a game requires a 9600-series card (which won't come out till the end of the year), it likely isn't too demanding (cards marked X6X0 tend to be re-releases of old cards.) A relatively powerful 3000-series card like the 3870 could probably outperform it due to the difference in memory bandwidth, despite the 6-7ish year gap.


There is no way that a game would require a card that not only hasn't been released yet, but hasn't even been confirmed yet. BigMac is right in that it must be an older game requiring the ATI 9600 series, not the (not yet been released) AMD HD9600 series.

On top of that graphics performance roughly has doubled every 2 generations of graphics cards (getting closer to doubling every generation now). There is no way the HD3870 will out perform something in the 9600 series. This is clearly shown in the link that k1114 posted since the HD3870 is shown to be lower tiered than the HD5670 and the HD6670 (the HD7670 is only an OEM card right now and not ranked, but would be higher than the HD3870 as well) Which clearly means that any HD9600 card would also be higher than the HD3870.
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May 13, 2013 4:21:26 PM

Your graph shows 60% because that is relative to the 650ti boost. If you compare it relative to the 7970ghz it is ~40%


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May 14, 2013 12:13:22 PM

j2j663 said:
xomm said:
The first number denotes the generation. The second and third numbers denote the tier.
Cards of the same tier ascend in power by generation (i.e. 7970 > 6970)
Cards of the same generation ascend in power by tier (i.e. 7870 > 7770)

If a game requires a 9600-series card (which won't come out till the end of the year), it likely isn't too demanding (cards marked X6X0 tend to be re-releases of old cards.) A relatively powerful 3000-series card like the 3870 could probably outperform it due to the difference in memory bandwidth, despite the 6-7ish year gap.


There is no way that a game would require a card that not only hasn't been released yet, but hasn't even been confirmed yet. BigMac is right in that it must be an older game requiring the ATI 9600 series, not the (not yet been released) AMD HD9600 series.

On top of that graphics performance roughly has doubled every 2 generations of graphics cards (getting closer to doubling every generation now). There is no way the HD3870 will out perform something in the 9600 series. This is clearly shown in the link that k1114 posted since the HD3870 is shown to be lower tiered than the HD5670 and the HD6670 (the HD7670 is only an OEM card right now and not ranked, but would be higher than the HD3870 as well) Which clearly means that any HD9600 card would also be higher than the HD3870.


Yeah, I realized that after I posted... For some reason I decided to trust hwcompare. Not going to make that mistake again.
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May 16, 2013 10:49:00 PM

k1114 said:
The 7670 is a rebranded 6670. Gpu performance is no where near doubling each generation. Take a look at 6970>7970 or 580>680, you'll only see ~25-40%. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edit...


Way to take it out of context and miss the entire point.
Btw thanks for confirming though,
40% increase = 140%
1.4*1.4 = 1.96
196% = 96% increase every 2 generations.
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