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May 14, 2013 8:02:19 AM

With just a refresh of keplar from Nvidia (700 series), and AMD possibly skipping the 8000 series and going to 9000 series, what do you think will happen? If AMD makes this move will it be a game changer?
Is Nvidia becoming too cocky, or are their army of fanboys too strong to be swayed by far better hardware?

Opinions? Lets hear em!!

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May 14, 2013 8:14:15 AM
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No, they will carry on swapping blows.
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May 14, 2013 8:14:27 AM

When you have been following the development of GPU's for as long as I have you see these pattern's emerge.
Nvidia or AMD will lead one/two or 3 generations(depending on how many refreshes/renames and respins they try to claim as new generations) then it will shift the other way, usually on a new architecture.

I hope the rumored new chips from AMD do change the game. I hope that they finally release something that has some real improvement in the architecture and performance thereof.

Mactronix :) 
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May 14, 2013 8:15:33 AM

To answer your thread in general - No.

Nvidia will not get out of business cause they're only not on the gaming GPU industry, remember that.

Even if AMD rules out an awesome series that will blow Nvidia out of the generation, then Nvidia will still keep up I believe. The marketing that AMD has done with the 7000 series is a perfect example of how you can get through the hard times.
If a product is weaker than its' competetion, then just lower the prices and add bonuses, such as games. Even though AMD haven't been king of performance, software or effiency then they have still managed to get a big share of the market, don't you agree? Nvidia might make a similar strategy as it is obvious if your product isn't the cream of the crop.
May 14, 2013 8:21:39 AM

I am more worried about Intels Integrated GPU taking over the low end GPU market to the point where AMD and nVidia can only focus on higher end models (making it far less likely that they get good income each year).

This would almost surely kill one of the companies (if not both), if Intel then included their own GPU on the market (by then their prices would be so low due to mass production that both AMD and nVidia would not be able to compete).
May 14, 2013 8:28:56 AM

Well this 7000 series was quite a bit better than Nvidia at some price points (300-400) but got beat at others (175-200).
However, the 700 series is going to take the market if they release it soon with the right pricing. Then if AMD releases 8000 series i think it will balance out to where it is at now. Nvidia controls a larger portion of the market. But, if AMD releases 9000 instead at the same price points of the 7000 series, it will give amd the foothold they seem to desperately need in the market.
May 14, 2013 8:33:41 AM

BOTH have their FANBOYs, So Nope.

For a starter - I have ONLY use ATI A-I-W video cards, Win 98 -> XP then AMD GPUs from Vista-> Win 7 for desktops. Ticked me off when they dropped the AIW lineup for BS reasons). Infact just this week I purchased a 7850 and a 7770. My first (currently Only) Nvidia GPU (dGPU - 540M) is in my laptop and prefered over AMD At the time of purchase because of driver.

Remember Hardware is not the only concern as Drivers are an important element. AMD has been having some problems in this area, Not to say Nvidia has not also had some issues. AMDs biggest problem is Personnel as they are getting spreed a little thin. Glad to see their stock price has finally moved to +$4 as they spent some time below $3 and yes this impacts their R&D.

I'm not a gamer, so the "TOP" level GPUs are not an issue for me. Bear in mind it is rather a small segment that Must have The FASTEST/LATEST GPU forgetting the cost.
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May 14, 2013 5:32:10 PM

caydn12 said:
With just a refresh of keplar from Nvidia (700 series), and AMD possibly skipping the 8000 series and going to 9000 series, what do you think will happen? If AMD makes this move will it be a game changer?
Is Nvidia becoming too cocky, or are their army of fanboys too strong to be swayed by far better hardware?

Opinions? Lets hear em!!


so far i see nothing will change even if amd going to skip 8k series for non OEM parts. remember the so called 9k series are rumored to use 20nm node from tsmc. if that's the case then it will have to compete with nvidia maxwell (800 series?) which also based on tsmc 20nm. the talk about the 9k series will come out before the end of the year only relevant if amd wants to stick with current 28nm process node for their next gen because tsmc next die shrink wont be ready until next year.
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