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Hello,
So I haven't built or bought any parts to my first gaming pc and I knew that "next generation" parts are coming out. I knew this before but didn't know too much about it so I wasn't worried. Now it's got me thinking. What I am really concerned on is my CPU and GPU. I plan to build and purchase sometime in mid, to late June.

For my CPU, I've heard that new Intel CPU's are coming out in September, named "Ivy-Bridge E." Is this reliable to believe? I'll post my current CPU later on in this thread, so if you could leave your thoughts on what to do that would be great.

My GPU is also a concern. I also heard the NVIDIA is coming out with their GTX 700 Series sometime later this month. I was going to get a GTX 680 4GB, but then I heard that a 780 4GB is coming out later this month. Again, is this reliable to believe? I am guessing that it would be wise to wait for the 780 as I heard that it comes standard 4GB, and 30% faster with similar price range. What are your thoughts on this theory?

Here is what I CURRENTLY plan to START with:

CPU: Intel i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core ($316.17 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 - 1600 Memory ($114.22 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.61 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card ($510.10 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($169.99 @ Newegg)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Monitor: ASUS VN247H-P 24-Inch LED-Lit Monitor ($189.00 @Amazon)

Optical Drive: AsusDRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ OutletPC)

Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-4 (4g) Carbon-Based Thermal Compound, Non-Electricity Conductive, Non-Capacitive ($9.99 @ Newegg)

Wireless Adapter: ASUS PCE-N15 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express 300/300Mbps Transfer/Receive Rate 64-bit WEP, 128-bit WEP, WPA2-PSK, WPA-PSK, WPS support ($26.99 @ Newegg)

Case Fans: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition 63.5 CFM 120mm ($14.99 @ Amazon)

Case Fans: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm ($26.98 @ OutletPC)

TOTAL (ESTIMATE): $1,734.04

When I was building, I wanted to upgrade later on so I built a list, here it is (I kept the ones that were relevant):


3) Monitor (Buy 2 More): Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($157.58 @ Newegg)

2) Graphics Card: Add a 2nd NVIDIA 680 4GB

1) Liquid CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($105.99 @ Newegg)

Mainly, I want to know if that waiting for the new CPU is worth it or to wait and go with my current one.

Then for my GPU, like I said, I'm guessing that I should go with a 780. Just want to be correct on this.

If anyone could help me out with this, that would be awesome. Thanks! :)
 
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I'd recommend getting one of the new Haswell CPUs arriving in June, rather than one of the Ivy Bridge-E CPUs probably arriving in September. The Haswell launch is 99.99% sure, the Ivy Bridge-E not quite as sure... but still highly likely to pan out.
Ivy Bridge-E is more cores, but an older architecture than Haswell (there'll eventually be a Haswell-E too).

As for the graphics card, Nvidia is launching the 700 series soon. It's the exact same architecture as the 600 series though, just remixed to bring some larger versions of the GPUs to a reasonable price point. Not sure how much the price/performance ratio will change though. It might be only a small adjustment, or it could be more substantial.
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I'd recommend getting one of the new Haswell CPUs arriving in June, rather than one of the Ivy Bridge-E CPUs probably arriving in September. The Haswell launch is 99.99% sure, the Ivy Bridge-E not quite as sure... but still highly likely to pan out.
Ivy Bridge-E is more cores, but an older architecture than Haswell (there'll eventually be a Haswell-E too).

As for the graphics card, Nvidia is launching the 700 series soon. It's the exact same architecture as the 600 series though, just remixed to bring some larger versions of the GPUs to a reasonable price point. Not sure how much the price/performance ratio will change though. It might be only a small adjustment, or it could be more substantial.
 
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Now, with the new CPU chip, Would that mean a different Motherboard is required? If I would, would some be available when the Haswell's come out? It also seems that I would have to change Memory (Maybe, right?) and CPU Cooler if the I had to get a different MB. Is this true?

For the graphics card, I guess I'll wait for the 780. :)
 
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Yes, Haswell uses a different socket and a new set of motherboards will be released along with Haswell.

By the way, Ivy Bridge-E also uses a different socket than the motherboard you posted above. Intel currently has LGA 2011 for Sandy Bridge-E and for the upcoming Ivy Bridge-E, while the Z77 chipset belongs to the family using the LGA 1155 socket that fits regular Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge CPUs. LGA 1155 is replaced by LGA 1150 with Haswell... and once Haswell-E arrives, LGA 2011 will presumably also be replaced with a new socket.
 
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The new socket would still be good for gaming, video editing, and everyday use correct? (My reason behind this is because I heard, I think, the z78 isn't good for gaming so I'm just checking.)

What about Memory, and the CPU Cooler? Would they have to be replaced? Is there any other part I would have to change as well?
 
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Haswell, LGA 1150, and the new chipsets (Z87 etc.) are going to be straight upgrades over the current stuff. Better in some areas, worse in none. It's very well suited for gaming.

The memory will work fine. You could pick faster memory if you like, but I doubt it would make much of a difference.
The CPU cooler, well, the Corsair H100i is already compatible with the new socket. The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo doesn't seem to be upgraded yet, so if you buy one now you'll probably have to buy an extra bracket later to be able to mount it. I expect they'll release a new version compatible with LGA 1150 soon.

Edit: Or it may not be necessary. LGA 1150, mounting-wise, is supposedly practically identical to LGA 1155.
 
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What would you imagine for the price, or do we already know? Is it a big jump or minimal from what I have now? Ideally, I would get the new gen equivalent to the i7 3770k Quad. Same thing on the MB.
 
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Right, makes sense. Thanks so much for your help! If I have anymore questions later on when more specs are confirmed or it's released I will send you a PM. Thanks again! :D
 
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