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May 15, 2013 6:03:01 AM

Im getting the alienware x51 (i7 GTX660), but one of my friends said that it is a crappy graphic card in it.
Im going to play crysis 3 and BF3.
I dont know so much about it, so its why i am asking you guys..... (remember that its a little pc.

Thanks :) 
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May 15, 2013 6:10:13 AM

It's not a crappy graphics card. It's a mid-tier card priced around $200. There are more powerful cards on the market (with a price). But the 660gtx is a good card. Tom's recommended it in their last GPU Chart.

The problem I see is the fact that you are buying an Alienware PC. They are horribly overpriced and you could build one that will destroy it for the same price.
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May 15, 2013 6:11:00 AM

barto said:

The problem I see is the fact that you are buying an Alienware PC. They are horribly overpriced and you could build one that will destroy it for the same price.


Ditto. Even if you are going pre-built, don't touch alienware. They are insanely over-priced.
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May 15, 2013 6:14:54 AM

bemused_fred said:
barto said:

The problem I see is the fact that you are buying an Alienware PC. They are horribly overpriced and you could build one that will destroy it for the same price.


Ditto. Even if you are going pre-built, don't touch alienware. They are insanely over-priced.


"...but one of my friends said..." is the other problem.
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May 15, 2013 6:31:57 AM

The GTX 660 is a good card, and should play Crysis 3 fine, but make sure the PC has a quad core CPU, i5 or i7, which the Alienware 'should' have.

The GTX 660 in the Alienware is an OEM version of the card based on a cut down GK104 that the 660 Ti and 670 are based on NOT the GK106 card the retail GTX 660 is based on.

Feast you eyes on this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-gef...

I have no problem recommending an Alienware PC if that's what you want. They may be pricey, but they have excellent finish and build quality.

There should be no need to replace the video card, because for the almost $400 you will pay for a GTX 670, you won't get much better performance. For 1080 gaming, the 660 (in whatever flavor) is almost perfect.

Higher resolution gaming would require something better.

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May 15, 2013 6:44:27 AM

OP: What price range do you have? Guessing from your alienware components, I'm guessing about £1000. I'm also guessing that you don't want to build your PC at all. Furthermore, I'm guessing that you need to buy a monitor, operating system, keyboard and mouse, etc. With that in mind, I recommend the following build:

The PC itself:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sedatech-Ultimate-i5-3570-4x3-4...
This has an I5 (which is all you need for gaming), 8GB of RAM, 1TB of storage and a HD 7950 card, which is signifcantly more powerful than the GTX 660.
You will, however, also need windows. Fortunately, it won't be the horrific windows 8 that alienware forces down your throat
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Windows-software-inte...
In terms of monitor, I'd recommend this 1080P IPS beauty. It looks like it's on sale at the moment, so I'd nab it ASAP
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S22B150-21-5-inch-Wides...
In terms of keyboard and mouse, here's a cheap and generic, but very highly rated pair for just a tenner
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Genius-KB-C210-PS-Keyboard/dp/B...
And just for fun, here's a headset and some speakers thrown in.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-980-000513-Z120-Stereo...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-OEM-860-Stereo-Headset...
Hope this is helpful!
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May 15, 2013 6:55:59 AM

i already got keyboard mouse and monitor sooo, and i have order it so its kind a too and im living in Denmark. So everything is is overpriced.
Could i upgrade to maybe a gtx 680? or a hd raedon card? :) 
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May 15, 2013 7:00:23 AM

bemused_fred
I have the Logitech g710+, Steelseries Sensei Logitech g930 and argon 7340a v2.
Soo i got kind a wild peripherals. :) 
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May 15, 2013 7:05:19 AM

And everybody that said that Alienware is overpriced, it isnt true, ive tried to find all that stuff there is in the Alienware x51 and compared the prices, and it isnt so overpriced (in my country) :) 
Maybe a bit but only 50£...................
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May 15, 2013 7:19:32 AM

Not in Denmark :) 
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May 15, 2013 7:20:05 AM

SquiDi7 said:

Could i upgrade to maybe a gtx 680? or a hd raedon card? :) 


well, the GTX 680 is physically larger (maybe a half inch? the 680 is 10" long and the 660 OEM uses the 670 PCB board) than 660 OEM in the x51, and while they both have 2 6-pin connectors, the 680 draws 195W power while the 660 only draw ~ 140-150.

Alienware specs those power supplies to fit their build BUT I have seen people upgrade them. I would make sure the PSU in the Alienware is at least 550W at has at least 25-27 amps on the 12V but it should be 'ok' if the 680 will fit.

Dry
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May 15, 2013 7:27:15 AM

its only 330 watts :|
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May 15, 2013 7:29:24 AM

SquiDi7 said:
its only 330 watts :|


that might be kind of tight :/  I was running an SLI setup that need 750W on a 650W PSU and sometimes it wouldn't boot up, because boot is technically when a GPU draws the most power, unless you're running some kind of 100% benchmark.

Dry
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May 15, 2013 7:35:28 AM

to my knowledge all the Radeon GPUs use WAY more power than the Nvidia, the 680 uses 195W while the 7950 uses 220W, so if you think about it, you are getting ALMOST GTX 670 performance in a 330W package, that's really a killer deal and that's the real value of what Alienware designs.

Dry
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May 15, 2013 7:39:13 AM

im so pissed right now i wished ive made my own -_-'
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May 15, 2013 7:43:14 AM

well, its not a crappy card, like your friend says, I've own 2 Alienware PCs, one was laptop, and they are excellent.

Dry
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May 15, 2013 7:46:12 AM

But ive spend soo much money on it and ive could get a better for the same value.
I think its good, cause i also going to lan parties :) 
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May 15, 2013 7:47:32 AM

its tiny
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May 15, 2013 7:56:51 AM

really, based on the spec, a similar PC is only like $150 less than what Dell is charging, I assume pricing is similar in Denmark.
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May 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM

Yea..
But ive just found out that i was wrong.
Ive could get a double so good pc for the money ive spent on that crappy alienware shit?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
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May 15, 2013 8:09:34 AM

I don't think that's true, when I factor in my assumed costs you can't build a PC that's twice as good. you might be able to pick up a better video card for the same price, but when you factor in the fact that the AW is small, and has excellent customer service and warranty terms. You can't have both of those things and have it cost half as much.

Alienwares are good computers, the new ones at least, and they are competitively priced. the people who say they are way overpriced have usually never owned one, or don't understand how to build a comparable computer.

Yes, you can build an i5 computer with a GTX 660 for 30% less an than an alienware, but that doesn't factor in that Windows costs money and it also doesn't factor in that you'd have to use a cheap crappy case and a power supply, which is be HUGE.
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May 15, 2013 8:58:38 AM

Yeah youre right now im glad thanks i think i will make this as solved :) 
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May 15, 2013 9:48:29 AM

I hope you enjoy the X51, its an excellent thing, may your Crysis 3 be awesome!

Dry
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May 15, 2013 9:52:36 AM

Thanks :D 
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July 17, 2013 10:20:29 AM

bemused_fred said:
barto said:

The problem I see is the fact that you are buying an Alienware PC. They are horribly overpriced and you could build one that will destroy it for the same price.


Ditto. Even if you are going pre-built, don't touch alienware. They are insanely over-priced.


You are both wrong on that account. Go price the individual components from New Egg or Tiger Direct (the exact same components) and it will cost you over $300 more than buying the pre-built Alienware.
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July 19, 2013 2:32:43 PM

spock13 said:
You are both wrong on that account. Go price the individual components from New Egg or Tiger Direct (the exact same components) and it will cost you over $300 more than buying the pre-built Alienware.


Thanks but no. It would be much easier for the accuser to do the work ignoring the fact that you posted in a thread that was solved a month ago.

If you want to prove me wrong, just send me a PM. I'm going to Un-follow this thread since it has been solved.
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December 21, 2013 2:49:57 AM

DryCreamer said:
SquiDi7 said:

Could i upgrade to maybe a gtx 680? or a hd raedon card? :) 


well, the GTX 680 is physically larger (maybe a half inch? the 680 is 10" long and the 660 OEM uses the 670 PCB board) than 660 OEM in the x51, and while they both have 2 6-pin connectors, the 680 draws 195W power while the 660 only draw ~ 140-150.

Alienware specs those power supplies to fit their build BUT I have seen people upgrade them. I would make sure the PSU in the Alienware is at least 550W at has at least 25-27 amps on the 12V but it should be 'ok' if the 680 will fit.

Dry


DryCreamer said:
well, its not a crappy card, like your friend says, I've own 2 Alienware PCs, one was laptop, and they are excellent.

Dry


(steevo)..ive recently purchased an x51 with i7 4470 gtx660 8gb ram 2tb hdd for $1600 in my eyes thats not expensive at all .. i can play crysis 3 in 1080p with high settings and a max temp of only 68'c with fan on high through msi afterburner
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December 26, 2013 3:05:38 PM

barto said:
It's not a crappy graphics card. It's a mid-tier card priced around $200. There are more powerful cards on the market (with a price). But the 660gtx is a good card. Tom's recommended it in their last GPU Chart.

The problem I see is the fact that you are buying an Alienware PC. They are horribly overpriced and you could build one that will destroy it for the same price.


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July 2, 2014 11:49:01 AM

Excuse me but anyone who says alienware is overpriced or wrong is a fool i had a custom build worth £1000 and it got out performed by the alienware x51 (i had overclocked the alienware) and i had gone for the mid range one for £700!!!!!
get the alienware x51 for £700 its the best ive had in a while
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July 2, 2014 11:51:56 AM

Whats your budget? if u can get it go for the £700 one its BEAST!
Also i will not have anyone be rude about alienware when i bought the x51 they sent it to me and i won an alienware 18 top range so now i use alienware no matter where i am!!!
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July 11, 2014 7:48:44 PM

Why is there always a pissing match when someone mentions alienware? The guy just asked about a graphics card, not for your opinion on alienware. I have an x51 and I bought it for easy portability. I can actually take it on the road in a carrying case. It works great and I love it. I've built a gaming computer and yes it is cheaper but keep your bias opinions to yourselves. Stay on topic. Sick of hearing this crap.
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July 11, 2014 8:32:21 PM

Because traditionally, Alienware was an expensive boutique brand. Same parts, but the Alienware brand commanded more money. Then they got subsumed into the Dell collective.

The price difference is not nearly so much as it used to be, but they aren't anything special. A Dell in a fancy case.
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