trying to decide on gpu, im stuck...

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i'm really stuck on a gpu upgrade and can't decide whether to go with 7870 or 660ti. both in price point and great performance as i been doing alot of research. currently my specs are as follows. (looking for crossfire in future)

cpu: FX 8350 4.8 with antec h20 620 closed loop
mobo: M5A99X evo
GPU: asus 7770 2gb
ram: 4x2gb corsair 1333
HDD: hitachi 500gb, WD 120Gb for windows and backup
PSU: 700w corsair
case: rosewell challenger

Playing games like
Metro 2033
Tera
black ops 2
payday ( uses physX by nvidia)
sleeping dogs
max payne
TF 2
watch dogs
Gta 4
and many more.... note this is for a 24/7 setup with alot of gaming.
 
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BTW my budget is around 300 bucks give or take 20 bucks, looking for a good warranty with a good company i can call not wait 6 days for an email from there rep or under certified english broken techs in there CS department. Also a very good cooling system on it so i can maintain a decent not outrageous overclock on a 24/7 basis steady. Normally go with asus but im open to suggests on the brand also. Thanks alot guys. Planning on buying in 2 weeks.
 
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definetly going to go with sli or xfire in the next month or two for sure. Thantos Telos i looked at that gpu and was considering it but with the single fan setup i was unsure about its cooling when it came to oc'ing it, planning to oc until i can sli or crossifire the cards.
 
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You really need to do some research before even thinking about Crossfire. The GTX 660 Ti should be the only card you're considering if you are planning a dual card setup. Using the latest FCAT testing, they have discovered that the performance of a dual card Crossfire setup is generally no better, and sometimes worse, than just a single card. In other words, a complete waste of money.

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"AMD CrossFire Performance - A Bridge over Trouble Water?
Where AMD has definite issues is with HD 7970s in CrossFire, and our Frame Rating testing is bringing that to light in a startling fashion. In half of our tested games, the pair of Radeon HD 7970s in CrossFire showed no appreciable measured or observed increase in performance compared to a single HD 7970. I cannot overstate that point more precisely: our results showed that in Battlefield 3, Crysis 3 and Sleeping Dogs, adding in another $400+ Radeon HD 7970 did nothing to improve your gaming experience, and in some cases made it worse by introducing frame time variances that lead to stutter. Take a look at some of our graphs on those game pages and compare the FRAPS FPS result to the Observed FPS result that calculates an average frame rate per second after removing runts and drops. Clearly the performance of the dual-card configuration is only barely faster than the single card, removing the “scaling” of CrossFire."
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-Dissected-Full-Details-Capture-based-Graphics-Performance-Tes-12

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"The issue of multi-GPU gaming on AMD crept up again with CrossFire - AMD's HD 7950s in a pair were consistently resulting in runt frames and dropped frames that caused lower observed frame rates than found with the GTX 660 Ti in SLI. In fact, it occurred more often here with the HD 7950s than it did with the HD 7970s - both DiRT 3 and Skyrim had problems in our review today when they did not appear to have any issues with the initial launch article. This tells me that as performance of the GPU is starting to go down (as we step down the product stack) the bottleneck of the GPU is going to cause more of these problems, not less."
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-GeForce-GTX-660-Ti-and-Radeon-HD-7950/Summary-and-Conclusions
 
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Dual card will have a higher spec then a single card since SLI scales up.
CF has some issue's, but i am only use NVidia got a AMD/ATI setup on a old pre-build system.
Sp the dual GTX 650Ti will run better, you can even take into account going 3 way sli later on.
Just need to make sure you have the correct mobo and ample watt on the PSU.
 
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ok im going to switch over to 16g of ram running at 1600mhz. on the gpu end it seems that the 660ti in sli would be my best option performance wise and keeping it so i dont have to upgrade within the next year or two. Asus is the norm way i go bc they always seem to be the most reliable, anyone have any other good vendors i should consider bc asus dosent have a phone u can call if anything goes wrong and gigabyte's CS dont even speak english and have no idea what they are talking about from last time i called them on a mobo issue on the UD3.
 
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just out of consideration, would a gigabyte 7970 with the triple fan setup be overkill for 1080p? its about 75 bucks more than a 7950 and ive heard nothing but good things about everything. cooling, oc and sound. if i went with that bc of the lack in xfire i'd just stick with the single until it couldnt play games any longer.
 
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The Gigabyte 7970 cards are voltage locked... Good luck getting anything more than a tiny OC out of them.

It's a shame, because they have great cooling. I would have gotten one before I knew about that, I went Sapphire instead.
 
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i actually didnt know that they were v locked. does anyone have a better choice for the 7970? about 420 to spend, like to go thru a brand that has good customer service, english speaking and a phone i can contact for RMA if needed. with a good warranty 2-3yrs and ill buy extended yr or so if need be. XFX? ASUS?
 
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The dual-x card is also very good... If you can't stretch for the vapor-x, go for the dual-x.
 
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