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I've a AMD FX 8350. Now, I'm going to pick a closed loop liquid cooler. Which one?

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May 15, 2013 11:45:10 PM

So, yeah. I have a AMD FX 8350 and I want to try to overclock it with a closed loop liquid cooler outfitted with the glorious brown and tan that is Noctua fans. That said, I'm a bit torn on three coolers that are all getting rave reviews.

The Swiftech H220 that Linus is shouting for from the rooftops:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The new Cooler Master Eisberg 240L (Bonus points for being German):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And everyone's favorite, the NZXT Kraken X60:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So, which of these will complement my 8350 the best? If you think there is something better for me that I missed, please do tell. Thanks in advance.
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May 15, 2013 11:55:09 PM

Swiftech H220 Water Cooler gets my vote!I do not like closed loops but if i had to use one that be my pick.
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May 16, 2013 12:39:54 AM

The swiftech stands alone because it is NOT a closed loop. It comes closed and ready to use just like the rest, but is completely upgrade-able. With the 6 watt pump you can chose to water cool your GPU and or increase the size of the radiator or add another in the future if you want. I have a 8350 and I hope to get a H220 sometime soon. I heard that the first production run had issues with the coolant, but all is well now!
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May 16, 2013 1:00:03 AM

envy14tpe said:
I'm not a fan of closed loops. They are expensive and a great air cooler has less issues.
Noctua NH-D14: For the knockout
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14se2...


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Also realize that a heavily overclocked 8 core cpu requires a good stable power source from both PSU and motherboard.
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May 16, 2013 5:15:00 AM

envy14tpe said:
I'm not a fan of closed loops. They are expensive and a great air cooler has less issues.
Noctua NH-D14: For the knockout
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14se2...


iam2thecrowe said:
envy14tpe said:
I'm not a fan of closed loops. They are expensive and a great air cooler has less issues.
Noctua NH-D14: For the knockout
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14se2...


+1
Also realize that a heavily overclocked 8 core cpu requires a good stable power source from both PSU and motherboard.


So, what is it that separates air cooling from liquid cooling?
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May 16, 2013 5:49:37 AM

Air cooling can use quieter fans under load. Also, models like the Noctua one are incredible at cooling, almost the same performance as a H100i which even costs $20 more. Not to mention, build quality is much better and no worries of leaks. The only hinderance to air cooling is the size. Sometimes due to the size of the heatsink, the cooler will not allow 4 sticks of high profile RAM. (Simple solution is to buy 2x4GB or 2x8GB)

Some people choose to build a custom water cooling loop but the cost is easily over $200. One builder was quoted as spending near $500 on the cooling system.
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May 16, 2013 11:03:26 AM

I wouldn't talk you out of a Noctua air cooler, they work extremely well. The NH-D14 is extremely large and will have have issues in some cases vertically and with ram clearance, but that aside no one can't argue it's effectiveness. However, just to be fair on watercooling. I got one of Thermaltakes $99 water cooling kits, separate pump, radiator, reservoir, and block about 7 or 8 years ago and put it on a single core AMD and it is still installed and on the rare occasions I fire up the old machine it still works fine and NO leaks. Never had a leak. Water cooling systems are NOT under pressure. If you think about it, if you mount a radiator above the CPU, the weight of water flowing down equals the weight of water going back up, so there is very little load on the pump. It just has to start moving the water. The total surface area inside the radiator cores is large enough as not to have much resistance, so the system is reasonable effortless and is one of the primary reasons people who actually have water coolers will tell you the only way to have a leak is for you to not properly set the tubes on the nipples or forget to tighten the clamps. I have never had a leak. I cleaned it twice, emptied the water and put new coolant in, but the water wasn't contaminated either time, I just thought I was supposed to. I am currently using an air cooler similar to the Cooler master 212, but am eager to get a H220 myself, because I don't like sustaining higher temps when the CPU is over 4.7Ghz. I always wanted to do a CPU/GPU cooler set up and is the main reason I was so interested in the swiftech water cooler. Not only was it modular in design, but the oversized water pump would have no problem pushing water through a much larger system. GPU water cooling blocks are about $125ish, so two can get a bit pricey, but I will make it a later purchase. If you see swiftech's site, they set a system with dual GPU coolers and dual radiators on this system. Impressive! If you only want to cool you CPU and never would be interested in cooling your GPU/'s then the Noctua can do a great job, if fit is not a problem. Otherwise I don't think you need to be worried about any of the water coolers, because they work just great at removing heat. If you don't mind buying two extra fans for your watercooling, the noise that you actually hear can be diminished due the fact that the two fans on the external side of the cooler can be turned down somewhat since you now have four fans instead of two. Four fans don't have to work as hard as two and most fans are quieter at low speeds, but do get noisy as they are forced to go fast ( duh! ) Overall, however it will be noisier than a Noctua, as low noise is one of their virtues. If you like to game in near silence ( you hate music and all those gun shots and explosions?! ) , then stay with an air cooler!
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May 16, 2013 11:10:11 AM

^--insanest post i've seen in a while. Space your thoughts out a bit and don't overdue comments cuz most people won't read it..like me.
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May 16, 2013 11:40:28 AM

Simple, don't get a closed loop cooler. Get a high end air cooler, if you want more, get a water cooling kit.
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May 16, 2013 11:41:51 AM

envy14tpe said:
^--insanest post i've seen in a while. Space your thoughts out a bit and don't overdue comments cuz most people won't read it..like me.


+1 It hurts my eyes (it really does). It's so hard to read! Almost no spaces.
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May 16, 2013 12:38:25 PM

OP, I have an overclocked FX-8350 currently at 5Ghz stable 24/7. Let me tell you know for the money you are going to dump into trying to cool this CPU with a closed loop cooler you are doing to be disappointed. Then again, it depends on the speeds you are trying to reach. Are you trying to get a little more out of the CPU, say 4.5Ghz? If so I think a closed loop would be fine, or a good quality air cooler. But if you are going into 5Ghz territory I would advise you to stay away from the cheap options.

Currently I have the XSPC rs360 cooling kit with an enzotech MST88 waterblock on the MOSFETS on my motherboard. That combined with my radiator with four fans, one including a 2,000RPM antec. On idle, this thing is fine. But as soon as the games turn on, this thing becomes in an incredibly demanding CPU, sucking up over 200W of power and taking all my radiator fans on full blast or else it overheats very quickly.

With a quality air cooler, you can probably hit around 4.5 to 4.7Ghz. But anything more and I think you're going to need a custom water loop. If anyone has actually successfully got to 5Ghz on a closed loop with the CPU load at 100% I would love to hear about it!
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July 26, 2013 12:16:42 AM

klinkklink said:
So, yeah. I have a AMD FX 8350 and I want to try to overclock it with a closed loop liquid cooler outfitted with the glorious brown and tan that is Noctua fans. That said, I'm a bit torn on three coolers that are all getting rave reviews.

The Swiftech H220 that Linus is shouting for from the rooftops:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The new Cooler Master Eisberg 240L (Bonus points for being German):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And everyone's favorite, the NZXT Kraken X60:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So, which of these will complement my 8350 the best? If you think there is something better for me that I missed, please do tell. Thanks in advance.


The Swiftech is the best of the bunch. You will have to order it from ncix.ca as patent troll attorneys representing Astek the biggest oem competitor have threatened a prolonged and expensive lawsuit against the design of the H220. Swiftech being a smaller company could not fight it. So the units will not be available from US based retailers.ncix.ca is Canadian based and will ship it to the USA. I just ordered the H320 which is the same unit except with a larger 360mm radiator. It is a new product and is not available until next month, but the H220 should be available.
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