PNY GTX 650 dead after 24 hours of use?! Stuck on "Starting windows".

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Hey all! So I've came here as kinda my last option. So to keep things sweet and short 1.Got GTX 650 from best buy. 2.Put in, install drivers. 3.Uninstall my on-board drivers 4. GTX 650 works beautifully, getting better FPS in games than I ever had. 5. Wake up next day, play minecraft with friend, I get a blue screen. 6. 3 hours later, playing another game, Blue-screened. 7. Computer just QUITS not even blue-screen, turns in self off. 8. From then on, as long as I install a driver for it, it was get stuck on starting windows,(i've had it running for hours)

I have re-docked it, (Only 1 PCIex16)
I have re installed 314.22, and the new 320.00, same thing.
Have done everything nVidia tech guy has told me to do.
Blown off dust, did clean installation, wiped old drivers, re-install etc...
When I start up my computer it was say "PNY GEFORCE GTX 650 etc" but as long as I have drivers on it, its going to freeze at starting windows.

My computer specs
Core I3 3.3ghz 2120
8gb DDR3 ram
400w Kentek PSU
1.5tb Seagate
Intel HD 2000

Anyone have a hunch? Or is this thing done for? Thanks!
-Xeas
 

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The only thing that leaps out at me about your hardware configuration is the power supply. Kentek? Sounds shady as hell; I can't even find it in Tom's Who's Who of Power Supplies.

That said, the GTX 650 doesn't draw a lot of power, so maybe I'm being too critical. In any case, a couple of questions:

I assume you were using the CPU's integrated graphics before you installed the new GPU?

On the first day, which games did you play -- or more specifically, were the games you played any different than the games you played on the following day when you first noticed the problem?

Have you looked at your temps? Made sure the fan (on the GPU) is working?
 

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Yeah, sure doesn't sound like the graphics' card. It sounds like the proper drivers enable the card to draw more power (relative to the generic drivers), which makes the power supply take a dump.
 

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Yes, this was a very cheap power supply, but from the site I bought it from, Kentek while being shady got very good reviews. I also before was using my Cores integrated GPU. I played the same games on both days, Minecraft and Guild wars 2. I had a temperature reading going on the last crash, it was at 38c 2 minutes before the final crash.
 

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Did you try booting into safe mode? even if its gets stuck at least you'll have a better idea why.

Also you mentioned you got some blue screens, can you check the minidump?, might also give you an idea whats wrong.
 

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Gotcha. Please don't take this as a criticism, but a computer power supply is not only perhaps the most important component, but it's also perhaps the easiest component to get wrong, because there are so many shady manufacturers out there. This is a good read, for future reference on the matter: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/410

The temperature is fine; I didn't think that was the problem anyway, but it was worth asking. If you could give us the 12V number on your PSU's sticker, that might help us -- but short of swapping in a different power supply, I doubt we'll be able to diagnose the problem for certain with the info we have now. If you don't want to do that, then I suppose you might try returning the video card and trying a new one just for kicks.
 

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I have a 400w Dynex PSU, also a pretty cheap psu, I used it once as an experiment on a motherboard that was never ment to have that size of psu in it, and I fried the mother board. (old win XP computer, might as well have some experimental fun) would the psu still work? I have seen "Dynex" brand psu's at bestbuy, so not as shady.
 

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Here's a tutorial I found that might help if you want to try reading them yourself. You could also upload the minidumps somewhere and link them here.

And yeah, 22a should be enough. So either the sticker is wrong, or the power supply broke -- or I suppose you might have a much more obscure problem.
 

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yikes. No, please don't do that. ;)
 

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http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

let us know how it goes.

PS: I think one of the windows files got corrupted during that last "QUIT" part you mentioned (the one without the bluescreen), and I'd say the PSU is to blame behind this (and maybe the bluescreens too).

There is a chance that if you get a new PSU, u'd still need to reinstall windows, and maybe if you reinstall windows now it would work for a while, until it happens again.
 

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1: 051213-22417-01.dmp 5/12/2013 7:38:57 PM PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA 0x00000050 fffff680`88352280 00000000`00000000 fffff800`030ee401 00000000`00000005 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+75c00 NT Kernel & System Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Microsoft Corporation 6.1.7601.18113 (win7sp1_gdr.130318-1533) x64 ntoskrnl.exe+75c00 C:\Windows\Minidump\051213-22417-01.dmp 4 15 7601 292,744

2. 051213-26863-01.dmp 5/12/2013 7:07:44 PM PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA 0x00000050 fffffd7f`ff6cbb1b 00000000`00000000 fffff800`030ad8c5 00000000`00000007 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+75c00 NT Kernel & System Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Microsoft Corporation 6.1.7601.18113 (win7sp1_gdr.130318-1533) x64 ntoskrnl.exe+75c00 C:\Windows\Minidump\051213-26863-01.dmp 4 15 7601 292,680

3. 051213-33743-01.dmp 5/12/2013 1:27:44 PM PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA 0x00000050 fffffbd4`b601276b 00000000`00000000 fffff800`02e687bf 00000000`00000007 nvlddmkm.sys nvlddmkm.sys+b4f8e x64 ntoskrnl.exe+75c00 C:\Windows\Minidump\051213-33743-01.dmp 4 15 7601 292,728

 

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are these 3 different minidumps?

2 of these are the windows kernel and the last one is the nvidia driver.

So I think you have 2 options
1) I'd say try a fresh install of windows as a test (maybe on a spare hard drive, since its just a test), if it works, Blame the PSU
2) Try a different PSU, if it doesn't work, blame Windows (but the old PSU could still be the problem)

I'd go with the windows first since its free, but eventually you might need to do both