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May 16, 2013 9:44:43 PM

Hi all, I'm looking for a few parts in the mid-low price range. These will be purchased within the next two weeks. I'd like to play games, record video, and stream a little on this computer. My budget is around $360.

I don't need an OS or monitor. These are the parts I still need to purchase and would like help deciding on(going to list parts I already have/ordered to give a better feel of the setup):

Case - ??? (mid tower $40-$60)

RAM - ??? (8 gb $50-70$)

HDD - ??? (internal 500gb or 1tb[on sale] $50-$80)

GPU - ??? (150-175$)

CPU - i5 3570k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO - Asrock Z77 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Rosewill HIVE 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is my first build so I'd like a newb friendly case.

I'm currently using 1280x960 resolution on an old costco monitor and will be upgrading to a 1920x1080 one soon.

I'm comfortable with ordering from Newegg, Amazon, or picking up parts at the local MicroCenter(I live in Denver, Colorado).

I will not be overclocking and I might SLI/Crossfire in the future.

I'd like to use this computer to start playing modern/upcoming games(Arma2, Arma3, GTA5, War Thunder)

All help is greatly appreciated.
a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 10:00:34 PM

RAM: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s... $63.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB: http://www.outletpc.com/mb1752.html?utm_source=mb1752&u... $67.19
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black.Orange (other colours are available): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
GPU: ASUS GTX660 DC20-2GDS: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-660DC2O&c=C... $191.98

Slightly over budget (about $8 over the maximum, taking all your ranges together), but excellent parts.
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May 16, 2013 10:25:08 PM

Jack Revenant said:
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s... $63.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB: http://www.outletpc.com/mb1752.html?utm_source=mb1752&u... $67.19
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black.Orange (other colours are available): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
GPU: ASUS GTX660 DC20-2GDS: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-660DC2O&c=C... $191.98

Slightly over budget (about $8 over the maximum, taking all your ranges together), but excellent parts.

Thanks for the reply, that case looks sick but is a little pricey. I just missed out on the $165 pny gtx 660 on newegg so bringing up that card made me cry a little inside.
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May 16, 2013 10:28:34 PM

Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s... $63.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB: http://www.outletpc.com/mb1752.html?utm_source=mb1752&u... $67.19
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black.Orange (other colours are available): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
GPU: ASUS GTX660 DC20-2GDS: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-660DC2O&c=C... $191.98

Slightly over budget (about $8 over the maximum, taking all your ranges together), but excellent parts.

Thanks for the reply, that case looks sick but is a little pricey. I just missed out on the $165 pny gtx 660 on newegg so bringing up that card made me cry a little inside.


What's your total budget? I was estimating based on the total of all your ranges there, but I can come up with something, given a more specific number.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 10:29:35 PM

Why buy a K-series CPU and not overclock? That's like buying a Ferrari and drive it in 40 mph limit roads.
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May 16, 2013 10:31:38 PM

ksham said:
Why buy a K-series CPU and not overclock? That's like buying a Ferrari and drive it in 40 mph limit roads.


Good catch. I didn't see that before.

OP, if we knock that down to an i5-3470 and a ASRock H77, you could almost certainly afford what I linked. More, potentially.
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May 16, 2013 10:32:39 PM

ksham said:
Why buy a K-series CPU and not overclock? That's like buying a Ferrari and drive it in 40 mph limit roads.


I got that and the mobo for 260$ at microcenter, they didn't have the locked version as part of the deal at the time.
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May 16, 2013 10:33:22 PM

Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s... $63.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB: http://www.outletpc.com/mb1752.html?utm_source=mb1752&u... $67.19
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black.Orange (other colours are available): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
GPU: ASUS GTX660 DC20-2GDS: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-660DC2O&c=C... $191.98

Slightly over budget (about $8 over the maximum, taking all your ranges together), but excellent parts.

Thanks for the reply, that case looks sick but is a little pricey. I just missed out on the $165 pny gtx 660 on newegg so bringing up that card made me cry a little inside.


What's your total budget? I was estimating based on the total of all your ranges there, but I can come up with something, given a more specific number.

Yeah sorry, the budget was the only thing I forgot. Added it to the OP.

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May 16, 2013 10:40:13 PM

Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile: http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s... $63.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB: http://www.outletpc.com/mb1752.html?utm_source=mb1752&u... $67.19
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Black.Orange (other colours are available): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
GPU: ASUS GTX660 DC20-2GDS: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-660DC2O&c=C... $191.98

Slightly over budget (about $8 over the maximum, taking all your ranges together), but excellent parts.

Thanks for the reply, that case looks sick but is a little pricey. I just missed out on the $165 pny gtx 660 on newegg so bringing up that card made me cry a little inside.


What's your total budget? I was estimating based on the total of all your ranges there, but I can come up with something, given a more specific number.

Yeah sorry, the budget was the only thing I forgot. Added it to the OP.



How about if we drop the Phantom 410 (and crush my poor, NZXT-loving heart) and use a Corsair 200R (http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&s...)?
It's a worse case, no doubt about that (it's rated lower for both cooling and noise), but it's functional, and it will allow you to get the 660 without going more than $5 or so over budget.

Edit: Heck, if you use the RAM or HDD from ksham's build, you can stay under budget.
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May 16, 2013 10:49:14 PM

$45 for the 200r is really nice and I like ksham's ram/hdd. If I wasn't waiting on a paycheck I'd make use of the promo on the 7870. :( 
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a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 10:52:06 PM

Inkorperated said:
$45 for the 200r is really nice and I like ksham's ram/hdd. If I wasn't waiting on a paycheck I'd make use of the promo on the 7870. :( 


I tend to prefer AMD, but in this case I would tend to go for the 660. I haven't heard great things about XFX's coolers, while ASUS's have a quite good reputation.

Edit: A good middle-ground, mayhaps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 16, 2013 11:04:27 PM

Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
$45 for the 200r is really nice and I like ksham's ram/hdd. If I wasn't waiting on a paycheck I'd make use of the promo on the 7870. :( 


I tend to prefer AMD, but in this case I would tend to go for the 660. I haven't heard great things about XFX's coolers, while ASUS's have a quite good reputation.

Edit: A good middle-ground, mayhaps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Yeah I like the benchmarks on the 660. I'll probably wait a while and see if that PNY card gets restocked. Thanks for your help guys!
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May 16, 2013 11:08:41 PM

Jack Revenant said:

I tend to prefer AMD, but in this case I would tend to go for the 660. I haven't heard great things about XFX's coolers, while ASUS's have a quite good reputation.

Edit: A good middle-ground, mayhaps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX's DD isn't the best cooler, but it's decent. And you get two free games. :) 
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May 16, 2013 11:09:39 PM

ksham said:
Jack Revenant said:

I tend to prefer AMD, but in this case I would tend to go for the 660. I haven't heard great things about XFX's coolers, while ASUS's have a quite good reputation.

Edit: A good middle-ground, mayhaps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX's DD isn't the best cooler, but it's decent. And you get two free games. :) 


True, but I found a Sapphire one for about the same price with two...times two free games!
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May 16, 2013 11:10:01 PM

Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
$45 for the 200r is really nice and I like ksham's ram/hdd. If I wasn't waiting on a paycheck I'd make use of the promo on the 7870. :( 


I tend to prefer AMD, but in this case I would tend to go for the 660. I haven't heard great things about XFX's coolers, while ASUS's have a quite good reputation.

Edit: A good middle-ground, mayhaps: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Yeah I like the benchmarks on the 660. I'll probably wait a while and see if that PNY card gets restocked. Thanks for your help guys!


Our pleasure. Happy gaming!
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a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 11:14:30 PM

Yeah, it's a great find. :)  I didn't say your Sapphire was bad.
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May 16, 2013 11:19:08 PM

ksham said:
Yeah, it's a great find. :)  I didn't say your Sapphire was bad.


Oh, I know. :)  I'm just an overly competitive person in general. :p 

Incidentally, is all Crucial RAM that cheap? I've been pretty much stuck on Corsair, but that's a pretty massive price gap.
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May 16, 2013 11:28:02 PM

Inkorperated said:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Blitz-Tower-Seasonic-Supply/d...
I know the PSU is amazing but is the case alright?
Might send back my rosewill 650w if I can get this.


I'm afraid that I don't know that case, though the fan options are acceptable. $150 seems like quite a lot to pay, though, given that you could get a 620w SeaSonic S12II and a NZXT Phantom 410 for $135 or so.
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May 16, 2013 11:30:00 PM

Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Blitz-Tower-Seasonic-Supply/d...
I know the PSU is amazing but is the case alright?
Might send back my rosewill 650w if I can get this.


I'm afraid that I don't know that case, though the fan options are acceptable. $150 seems like quite a lot to pay, though, given that you could get a 620w SeaSonic S12II and a NZXT Phantom 410 for $135 or so.


Yeah I swear I just saw it for $91, that's why I posted the link.
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May 16, 2013 11:31:03 PM

Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Blitz-Tower-Seasonic-Supply/d...
I know the PSU is amazing but is the case alright?
Might send back my rosewill 650w if I can get this.


I'm afraid that I don't know that case, though the fan options are acceptable. $150 seems like quite a lot to pay, though, given that you could get a 620w SeaSonic S12II and a NZXT Phantom 410 for $135 or so.


Yeah I swear I just saw it for $91, that's why I posted the link.


Wait, did you find someplace that sells it for $91, or did you misread? If the former, I would go for it. If the latter, unfortunate.
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May 16, 2013 11:32:41 PM

Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Blitz-Tower-Seasonic-Supply/d...
I know the PSU is amazing but is the case alright?
Might send back my rosewill 650w if I can get this.


I'm afraid that I don't know that case, though the fan options are acceptable. $150 seems like quite a lot to pay, though, given that you could get a 620w SeaSonic S12II and a NZXT Phantom 410 for $135 or so.


Yeah I swear I just saw it for $91, that's why I posted the link.


Wait, did you find someplace that sells it for $91, or did you misread? If the former, I would go for it. If the latter, unfortunate.

It was posted on a subreddit for PC part sales and it was advertised as $91 but I guess they ended the sale.
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May 16, 2013 11:34:18 PM

Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Blitz-Tower-Seasonic-Supply/d...
I know the PSU is amazing but is the case alright?
Might send back my rosewill 650w if I can get this.


I'm afraid that I don't know that case, though the fan options are acceptable. $150 seems like quite a lot to pay, though, given that you could get a 620w SeaSonic S12II and a NZXT Phantom 410 for $135 or so.


Yeah I swear I just saw it for $91, that's why I posted the link.


Wait, did you find someplace that sells it for $91, or did you misread? If the former, I would go for it. If the latter, unfortunate.

It was posted on a subreddit for PC part sales and it was advertised as $91 but I guess they ended the sale.


Well, that's unfortunate. However, you should still consider sending back your Hive 650w, if possible. Rosewill is not exactly one of the great and the good of PSUs.
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May 16, 2013 11:36:33 PM

Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Blitz-Tower-Seasonic-Supply/d...
I know the PSU is amazing but is the case alright?
Might send back my rosewill 650w if I can get this.


I'm afraid that I don't know that case, though the fan options are acceptable. $150 seems like quite a lot to pay, though, given that you could get a 620w SeaSonic S12II and a NZXT Phantom 410 for $135 or so.


Yeah I swear I just saw it for $91, that's why I posted the link.


Wait, did you find someplace that sells it for $91, or did you misread? If the former, I would go for it. If the latter, unfortunate.

It was posted on a subreddit for PC part sales and it was advertised as $91 but I guess they ended the sale.


Well, that's unfortunate. However, you should still consider sending back your Hive 650w, if possible. Rosewill is not exactly one of the great and the good of PSUs.

Hmm never heard anything bad about them and the only reason I got it was because of the $50 pricetag.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 11:39:33 PM

Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
Jack Revenant said:
Inkorperated said:
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Blitz-Tower-Seasonic-Supply/d...
I know the PSU is amazing but is the case alright?
Might send back my rosewill 650w if I can get this.


I'm afraid that I don't know that case, though the fan options are acceptable. $150 seems like quite a lot to pay, though, given that you could get a 620w SeaSonic S12II and a NZXT Phantom 410 for $135 or so.


Yeah I swear I just saw it for $91, that's why I posted the link.


Wait, did you find someplace that sells it for $91, or did you misread? If the former, I would go for it. If the latter, unfortunate.

It was posted on a subreddit for PC part sales and it was advertised as $91 but I guess they ended the sale.


Well, that's unfortunate. However, you should still consider sending back your Hive 650w, if possible. Rosewill is not exactly one of the great and the good of PSUs.

Hmm never heard anything bad about them and the only reason I got it was because of the $50 pricetag.


They're not bad, to my understanding, but I have a hard time advocating anything not made by SeaSonic, particularly when there's a SeaSonic PSU (the aforementioned S12II 620w) which costs only $10 more (plus shipping): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Edit: For that matter, there are cheaper Corsair PSUs at that wattage. Granted, they're not SeaSonic quality, but they're still a better-respected name than Rosewill.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 16, 2013 11:50:54 PM

Rosewill Hive is a good PSU, one of the few Rosewill PSU that I would recommend. The other being Capstone.
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May 16, 2013 11:52:07 PM

ksham said:
Rosewill Hive is a good PSU, one of the few Rosewill PSU that I would recommend. The other being Capstone.


Really? Huh. I must have misread the "Who's Who in PSUs" article. I could have sworn that the Hive was one of the bad ones.
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May 17, 2013 12:01:11 AM

I suppose I'll try out the rosewill then.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 17, 2013 12:01:53 AM

It's hard to judge a Who's Who list. Not all PSU made by manufacturers are bad. Some are bad; some are good. Some are good, but less reliable. Rosewill tends to be a hit or miss. But recently, they've been doing well.
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May 17, 2013 12:10:57 AM

ksham said:
It's hard to judge a Who's Who list. Not all PSU made by manufacturers are bad. Some are bad; some are good. Some are good, but less reliable. Rosewill tends to be a hit or miss. But recently, they've been doing well.


Sounds reasonable to me. I'm a bit too paranoid to allow anything that doesn't have a SeaSonic stamp on it near my systems, but I understand that not everyone can (or wants to) be that picky.
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May 17, 2013 12:46:01 AM

I have a Rosewill Capstone myself and while it's a terrific Super Flower PSU, I don't generally recommend Rosewills to anyone who's really new to building simply because you end up having to get it to click for them that there are good Rosewills and bad ones.
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May 17, 2013 12:58:47 AM

@DSzymborski: how does someone new to building alter your PSU recommendations? That's weird logic.
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May 17, 2013 7:29:02 AM

ksham said:
@DSzymborski: how does someone new to building alter your PSU recommendations? That's weird logic.


Just an example on the subject. One person I know was building a computer a few months ago and I recommended a Rosewill Capstone to him. He assumed that it was a blanket recommendation of Rosewill and decided to save money and buy one of the awful Rosewills. I've actually had this happen multiple times. It's simply easier to give a general recommendation for, say, a Seasonic.
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