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May 17, 2013 12:04:45 PM

Hi,
I have a question about corsair hx 850 power supply.
I built a computer.
msi 970a g46
2x4gb corsair ram
amd sempron 145
sapphire radeon 5850
corsair hx 850w
Usb 16gb stick with xubuntu 12.10
usb mouse and usb keyboard

When I start up the system it works nicely and stable.
I wanted to connect a hard drive(seagate barracuda 40gb ide/pata its working just got it from friend working pc)and when I want to switch on there is nothing. Sometimes a little spin on the cpu-gpu-psu fans, but just 1 second and gone.
Does anyone experienced something similar? What could be the problem?
I think a minimum requirement of mobo-cpu-gpu-mouse-keyboard-memory-hdd shouldn't be a problem for this psu.
Any idea and help would be appreciated.
May 17, 2013 12:19:44 PM

Something to do with the PATA device or mobo incompatibility. This doesn't sound like a critical component. At any rate I read recently where a particular motherboard did not want to play nice with a particular Corsair PSU. Both parts worked fine attached to different devices, so both were known good.
I am not saying this is a likely scenario, it is very rare but it happens. I think its likely an issue between the HD and the motherboard. But I would double check to ensure all the cables are completely connected first, that's a very likely culprit.

At any rate I wouldn't worry about it much, try the drive in another computer since it doesn't appear compatible with this one.
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May 17, 2013 12:51:13 PM

First of all, you're blaming the PSU without any ecidence it is the culprit. This sounds like a pretty old HDD so that would be my first suspect. Try a known good HDD.
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May 18, 2013 5:39:41 AM

Hi,

So where to begin. When I put the system together, I had an ocz 1250 gold psu. It turned out faulty. I had a seagate barracuda 500gb hard drive. It turned out faulty. I bought this corsair hx 850w and had 2 spare hard disks(both hdds turned out to be faulty).

It looks like the friends old ide/pata drive is working. We put it back to the old computer and immediately shown up. This might be some compatibility issue.
Today I bought a brand new hard drive WD 500gb green, connected and within a sec smoke and melting of the data cable...I was lucky enough to expect it(so I was quick to disconnect), the middle pin burnt out, and on the mobo the sata1 got slight damage...
After disconnection I booted without hard drive and from USB it works...
Went back to the shop they changed the hard drive(got a WD 500gb blue), checked it for me -it works. I connected to the system, and the same 1 sec spin on cpu-gpu-psu fan and after stops. Disconnected again, and without hard drive boots and runs stable.
My plan was to run 2-3 shappire radeon 5850 with this system for mining but never experienced anything like this before. Its an open system, I have no issues with room overheating. And here I am now.
Would anyone have some idea what could be a problem?
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May 18, 2013 8:46:03 AM

sderref said:
Hi,

So where to begin. When I put the system together, I had an ocz 1250 gold psu. It turned out faulty. I had a seagate barracuda 500gb hard drive. It turned out faulty. I bought this corsair hx 850w and had 2 spare hard disks(both hdds turned out to be faulty).

It looks like the friends old ide/pata drive is working. We put it back to the old computer and immediately shown up. This might be some compatibility issue.
Today I bought a brand new hard drive WD 500gb green, connected and within a sec smoke and melting of the data cable...I was lucky enough to expect it(so I was quick to disconnect), the middle pin burnt out, and on the mobo the sata1 got slight damage...
After disconnection I booted without hard drive and from USB it works...
Went back to the shop they changed the hard drive(got a WD 500gb blue), checked it for me -it works. I connected to the system, and the same 1 sec spin on cpu-gpu-psu fan and after stops. Disconnected again, and without hard drive boots and runs stable.
My plan was to run 2-3 shappire radeon 5850 with this system for mining but never experienced anything like this before. Its an open system, I have no issues with room overheating. And here I am now.
Would anyone have some idea what could be a problem?


I must be missing something here. You say you plug two new HDDs into your MB (one at a time) and the data cable melts instantly both times. Isn't it obvious your MB is bad?
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May 18, 2013 9:18:32 AM

ram1009 said:
sderref said:
Hi,

So where to begin. When I put the system together, I had an ocz 1250 gold psu. It turned out faulty. I had a seagate barracuda 500gb hard drive. It turned out faulty. I bought this corsair hx 850w and had 2 spare hard disks(both hdds turned out to be faulty).

It looks like the friends old ide/pata drive is working. We put it back to the old computer and immediately shown up. This might be some compatibility issue.
Today I bought a brand new hard drive WD 500gb green, connected and within a sec smoke and melting of the data cable...I was lucky enough to expect it(so I was quick to disconnect), the middle pin burnt out, and on the mobo the sata1 got slight damage...
After disconnection I booted without hard drive and from USB it works...
Went back to the shop they changed the hard drive(got a WD 500gb blue), checked it for me -it works. I connected to the system, and the same 1 sec spin on cpu-gpu-psu fan and after stops. Disconnected again, and without hard drive boots and runs stable.
My plan was to run 2-3 shappire radeon 5850 with this system for mining but never experienced anything like this before. Its an open system, I have no issues with room overheating. And here I am now.
Would anyone have some idea what could be a problem?


I must be missing something here. You say you plug two new HDDs into your MB (one at a time) and the data cable melts instantly both times. Isn't it obvious your MB is bad?


Hi,
the wd 500gb green melted within a sec, after I got a wd 500gb blue connected and apart a 1sec gpu-cpu-psu fan spin the system doesnt fire up. I deconnected the hard drive and the system starts, boots from usb where I have a xubuntu 12.10 installed. I am wrinting from this computer right now. This is why I am clueless, without hard drive fires up and runs stable. I attach the hard drive and nothing.
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May 18, 2013 11:29:14 AM

From all the failures you've described it sounds like you're using used parts. Nobody has this many bad new parts on the same build. this is why I advise people to never buy used computer parts. I still say you have a bad MB or at least a bad port on the MB. Do you have any other drives plugged into the MB, such as a DVD? If so try plugging your HDD into the port where the DVD is. If I were having all these problems I'd start over.
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May 18, 2013 12:58:57 PM

ram1009 said:
From all the failures you've described it sounds like you're using used parts. Nobody has this many bad new parts on the same build. this is why I advise people to never buy used computer parts. I still say you have a bad MB or at least a bad port on the MB. Do you have any other drives plugged into the MB, such as a DVD? If so try plugging your HDD into the port where the DVD is. If I were having all these problems I'd start over.




Hi,

at the start parts were all brand new except the gpu.
msi 970a g46-brand new
2x4gb corsair ram-brand new
amd sempron 145-brand new
sapphire radeon 5850-used
corsair hx 850w-used( originally I had a brand new ocz 1250w gold-which turned out faulty-sent it back , will get new one)
Usb 16gb stick with xubuntu 12.10-brand new
usb mouse and usb keyboard-brand new
I had no cd-rom or dvd-rom and no hard drive installed to the system.
After building and testing it it was working for 24 hours. It is stable and runs smooth now.
But wanted to attach a hard drive. Brand new seagate barracuda 7200rpm sata, the hard drive turned out its faulty(sent it back, will get new one). So I had one old hdd which I used for backup long time ago. This is not working anymore. Got an old ide-pata from friend. It is not working in my system, looks fine in his old computer.
So I decided to get a new hard drive. One burnt immediately -they changed it and got a new one, and the guys checked before I left the shop, it was working. Got home in 2 minutes, connected to the power and mobo and nothing...Changed the cable, port, psu socket and nothing.
I have no idea why is it able to run from usb and why can't attach a hard drive.

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May 18, 2013 2:04:38 PM

Unfortunately, the only way folks like us have to troubleshoot bad components is to replace them one at a time with known good ones. In your case the MB would be the first thing I'd replace. It sounds like the only item that could cause the symptoms you're reporting. As for the bad "new" items..............well, either you're the only person I know of with worse luck than me or someone is selling you used items for new.
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May 20, 2013 8:29:37 AM

ram1009 said:
Unfortunately, the only way folks like us have to troubleshoot bad components is to replace them one at a time with known good ones. In your case the MB would be the first thing I'd replace. It sounds like the only item that could cause the symptoms you're reporting. As for the bad "new" items..............well, either you're the only person I know of with worse luck than me or someone is selling you used items for new.


Hi,
update. I tried the system on my other working ASRock 970 Extreme 3 motherboard. Same results, from usb runs smooth and stable, when I wanted to attach the hard drive, did not fire up.
I got very annoyed, took the components to the local shop.
msi 970a g46
2x4gb corsair ram
amd sempron 145
sapphire radeon 5850
corsair hx 850w
plus the wd 500gb blue hard drive I've got from them.
Explained them what happened and when they checked the hard drive what I got from them as a replacement, they just told me, that hdd is dead as well!!!
We put it together with my usb stick, started immediately. They connected a brand new hard drive, but was not firing up. The motherboard,the psu,the hard drive works individually but when they are connected, the system doesn't fire up. Now they are testing one by one all the cables, sockets and components what could be the problem.


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May 20, 2013 11:10:14 AM

sderref said:
ram1009 said:
Unfortunately, the only way folks like us have to troubleshoot bad components is to replace them one at a time with known good ones. In your case the MB would be the first thing I'd replace. It sounds like the only item that could cause the symptoms you're reporting. As for the bad "new" items..............well, either you're the only person I know of with worse luck than me or someone is selling you used items for new.


Hi,
update. I tried the system on my other working ASRock 970 Extreme 3 motherboard. Same results, from usb runs smooth and stable, when I wanted to attach the hard drive, did not fire up.
I got very annoyed, took the components to the local shop.
msi 970a g46
2x4gb corsair ram
amd sempron 145
sapphire radeon 5850
corsair hx 850w
plus the wd 500gb blue hard drive I've got from them.
Explained them what happened and when they checked the hard drive what I got from them as a replacement, they just told me, that hdd is dead as well!!!
We put it together with my usb stick, started immediately. They connected a brand new hard drive, but was not firing up. The motherboard,the psu,the hard drive works individually but when they are connected, the system doesn't fire up. Now they are testing one by one all the cables, sockets and components what could be the problem.



If you're buying components from a dealer with a warranty let them figure it out. If they can't make it run they should refund your money. ALL your money.


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May 23, 2013 6:26:15 AM

ram1009 said:
sderref said:
ram1009 said:
Unfortunately, the only way folks like us have to troubleshoot bad components is to replace them one at a time with known good ones. In your case the MB would be the first thing I'd replace. It sounds like the only item that could cause the symptoms you're reporting. As for the bad "new" items..............well, either you're the only person I know of with worse luck than me or someone is selling you used items for new.


Hi,
update. I tried the system on my other working ASRock 970 Extreme 3 motherboard. Same results, from usb runs smooth and stable, when I wanted to attach the hard drive, did not fire up.
I got very annoyed, took the components to the local shop.
msi 970a g46
2x4gb corsair ram
amd sempron 145
sapphire radeon 5850
corsair hx 850w
plus the wd 500gb blue hard drive I've got from them.
Explained them what happened and when they checked the hard drive what I got from them as a replacement, they just told me, that hdd is dead as well!!!
We put it together with my usb stick, started immediately. They connected a brand new hard drive, but was not firing up. The motherboard,the psu,the hard drive works individually but when they are connected, the system doesn't fire up. Now they are testing one by one all the cables, sockets and components what could be the problem.



If you're buying components from a dealer with a warranty let them figure it out. If they can't make it run they should refund your money. ALL your money.




Hi,
they found the the faulty component. It was the psu/psu connection cables. I got my money back, and they were very nice at the and with lots of apologies.
Many thanks for the help and advices.
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May 23, 2013 6:28:29 AM

ram1009 said:
sderref said:
ram1009 said:
Unfortunately, the only way folks like us have to troubleshoot bad components is to replace them one at a time with known good ones. In your case the MB would be the first thing I'd replace. It sounds like the only item that could cause the symptoms you're reporting. As for the bad "new" items..............well, either you're the only person I know of with worse luck than me or someone is selling you used items for new.


Hi,
update. I tried the system on my other working ASRock 970 Extreme 3 motherboard. Same results, from usb runs smooth and stable, when I wanted to attach the hard drive, did not fire up.
I got very annoyed, took the components to the local shop.
msi 970a g46
2x4gb corsair ram
amd sempron 145
sapphire radeon 5850
corsair hx 850w
plus the wd 500gb blue hard drive I've got from them.
Explained them what happened and when they checked the hard drive what I got from them as a replacement, they just told me, that hdd is dead as well!!!
We put it together with my usb stick, started immediately. They connected a brand new hard drive, but was not firing up. The motherboard,the psu,the hard drive works individually but when they are connected, the system doesn't fire up. Now they are testing one by one all the cables, sockets and components what could be the problem.



If you're buying components from a dealer with a warranty let them figure it out. If they can't make it run they should refund your money. ALL your money.




Hi,
they found the the faulty component. It was the psu/psu connection cables. I got my money back, and they were very nice with lots of apologies.
Many thanks for the help and advices.
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