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May 18, 2013 7:14:16 PM

First off I know nothing about building game computers and don’t know how difficult they are to assemble or extra tools that I may need. So this is a setup I put together with a little research. How much should this cost? On Ibuypower it cost $1,315 with the GTX 670 and $1190 with the 660 Ti. A few questions, is the intel pro network card a wireless PCI card for internet? I have no idea on what kind of power supply I should get with, it, said at least 500 watts. Anything I am missing? Do I need a standalone sound card? No idea on the motherboard, this was basically the only option available on the site. Would this setup not be that good if I do not have an IPS and/or 120 Hz monitor? Like I was looking at this monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
but saw no hertz rate and it is not IPS…(I still need to buy a monitor, keyboard, speakers)


Any recommendations to make this build cheaper without sacrificing the Case, GPU, amount of RAM, and CPU? The cheapest possible build with 660 Ti would be appreciated without terrible brand parts. What sites should I look for parts? I looked on PC parts picker and I came up with around $1200 cost, a minimal difference to me. If it makes a difference I want to be able to play StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, Battlefield 3 and 4, Bioshock, Tomb Raider on ultra settings, does not have to be maximum (low, med, high, ultra, max). I realize these are different animals as far as system requirements. Also my netgear router is very far away, so what PCI card or usb wireless adapter should I get it? Hope that info helps.

Case: NZXT Guardian 921 RB Gaming case (blue)

Case Lights: Meteor light with 8 speed settings

CPU: Intel Core 3570K Processor (4x3.4 Ghz/6 MB L3 Cache)

CPU Cooling: Corsair hydro series H60 liquid cpu cooling system, arc duel silent high performance fan upgrade (push-pull airflow)

RAM: corsair vengeance 8 GB (4GB X2) DDR3-1600

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB EVGA FTW Core 1084 MHz or 660 Ti 2GB 980 MHz haven't decided

Motherboard: gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H

Power supply: 750 WATT CORSAIR CMPSU 750TXV2

Hard drive: 1 TB HD 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0GB/S Single Drive

Optical Drive: 12 x Blu-ray LG BLU-RAY Reader dvd burner combo

Sound Card: 3D premium surround sound onboard

Network Card: Intel pro 10/100/1000 network card

Operating System: Windows 7 home premium

Wireless Network Adapter: ASUS USB-NF3 802.11 a/b/g/n 300 Mbps dual-band wireless-n300 USB adapter


a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:26:03 PM

Network Card - Not needed. That is included on the mobo.
Wireless Network Adapter - only needed if you're not going to use an ethernet cable.
Sound Card - Your mobo has onboard sound. Only get this if you really, really can tell the difference.

Motherboard - you've chosen an overclockable CPU, but that mobo is not OC capable.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:26:12 PM

give me a budget, if you are overclocking and if you are going to run dual video cards in the future. ill select a better list of components. one thing is for sure is that the intel network card is useless
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:26:55 PM

With the money you've saved on the above recommendations, get an SSD.
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May 18, 2013 7:30:25 PM

budget is $800-1200 ideally. On the lower end of that scale if possible since I still need a monitor etc. What is a mobo?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:32:07 PM

short for motherboard
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:36:21 PM

120hz is way out of your price bracket. IPS is doable by getting the pb238q from asus

if you want everything to fit under 1200 dollars, my suggestion would be pretty much be the way to go. you could take out the SSD but i can guarantee you that a SSD makes a system feel much faster than using a more powerful GPU
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:42:15 PM

Try this build you have some things that are not needed.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YeNd
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YeNd/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YeNd/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD65 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($293.18 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1045.62

Use your case and get windows seven and a 3rd party cooler and you are good to go
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May 18, 2013 7:45:11 PM

isn't SSD just about speed of loading times and not the graphics, games wise? Also what is the difference between the radeon and Nvida GPU's?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:47:04 PM

yes its about the speed. you get more stuff done and you dont have to wait as much.

not much of a difference.
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May 18, 2013 7:47:33 PM

Also I forgot to answers the other part of your question, I do not plan on OC, isn't that just for speed as well, don't know anything about so probably best to not mess with that and I may want to add another video card for streaming. I just want to make sure there is space for it.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 7:50:20 PM

streaming doesnt require another video card. dont know where you got that from.

if you arent overclocking, that can free up some budget room for the GPU
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YeVT
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May 18, 2013 7:57:30 PM

well to have another monitor to have the stream on and full screen the game on the good monitor, that's correct right? And are there any more aesthetically pleasing cases that have the same amount of room and ports like the one I picked that are 75 dollars or less?
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May 18, 2013 7:58:45 PM

...that aren't junk or is that the best one?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 8:02:35 PM

a video card can easily run 3 panels. you dont need another one

id focus my money on hardware that produces more performance rather than asthetics. what may look cool now will definitely not look cool in a year or 2
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May 18, 2013 8:03:24 PM

Do I not need a CPU cooler for the second build?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 8:04:54 PM

Wingzero01 said:
Do I not need a CPU cooler for the second build?


you arent overclocking. a extra heatsink is pretty useless at that rate. the stock one is fine
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May 18, 2013 8:05:01 PM

oh so what is a second video card for?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 8:07:05 PM

adding another video card generally doubles the performance but is not necessary at 1080p. if you arent overclocking, you shouldnt be thinking about dual video cards anyways
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May 18, 2013 8:10:10 PM

also does it make a difference that my room is quite hot and the space it would be in is in a corner in between the wall and desk with about a width of 3 feet
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 8:13:36 PM

it should be fine. i have no case fans inside a silent case and im fine
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May 18, 2013 8:15:49 PM

So would it be better to overclock with the first build or go with the second with the better GPU?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 8:18:49 PM

second one might be better off for you if you dont want to dabble with overclocking. the second build you can still overclock the GPU though
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May 18, 2013 8:30:47 PM

why does the Window 7 home premium full cost more than SP1 what is the difference?
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May 18, 2013 8:31:12 PM

are they both complete OS?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 18, 2013 8:33:37 PM

Wingzero01 said:
why does the Window 7 home premium full cost more than SP1 what is the difference?


You have to pay attention as to whether it is an OEM version or not.
OEM is cheaper, but once installed, is tied to that particular motherboard (except maybe in case of complete motherboard failure)
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May 18, 2013 8:34:43 PM

are certain games not compatible with the recommended video cards or some in general? I have heard this as well, and not based on lacking the performance, but because of how they are made. Like on AMD Radeon's FB page they talk about updating textures or graphics for individual games. Like I see this image, (unless it is just for games that come with the GPU when you buy it) https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/...
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May 18, 2013 8:36:22 PM

Why Nvidia?
3 of those games are AMD titles including BF4.
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May 18, 2013 8:39:00 PM

Newbie349 said:
Why Nvidia?
3 of those games are AMD titles including BF4.

I am the noob... I don't know these things
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May 18, 2013 8:43:22 PM

Wingzero01 said:
Newbie349 said:
Why Nvidia?
3 of those games are AMD titles including BF4.

I am the noob... I don't know these things


All of the cards will work some might just run better on different cards regardless of specs. I have seen a 660 ti beat a 7970 just because the game loved Nvidia a lot. I have also seen a 7950 beat a 680 because it was a AMD lover. It is best to buy cards depending on the game or if you want physx that bad or not.
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May 18, 2013 8:47:52 PM

Newbie349 said:
Wingzero01 said:
Newbie349 said:
Why Nvidia?
3 of those games are AMD titles including BF4.

I am the noob... I don't know these things


All of the cards will work some might just run better on different cards regardless of specs. I have seen a 660 ti beat a 7970 just because the game loved Nvidia a lot. I have also seen a 7950 beat a 680 because it was a AMD lover. It is best to buy cards depending on the game or if you want physx that
bad or not.


where do you find details on what games like which cards better?

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May 18, 2013 8:54:59 PM

Wingzero01 said:
Newbie349 said:
Wingzero01 said:
Newbie349 said:
Why Nvidia?
3 of those games are AMD titles including BF4.

I am the noob... I don't know these things


All of the cards will work some might just run better on different cards regardless of specs. I have seen a 660 ti beat a 7970 just because the game loved Nvidia a lot. I have also seen a 7950 beat a 680 because it was a AMD lover. It is best to buy cards depending on the game or if you want physx that
bad or not.


where do you find details on what games like which cards better?


AMD. http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsrelo...
Nvidia. Back of box usually.
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May 18, 2013 9:04:40 PM

Btw, thanks for all the help everyone! :) 
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May 18, 2013 9:19:22 PM

so running on ultra or or dare I say max, what kind of fps can I get with the 7950 from the recommended build for the games I listed and especially BF3 and 4 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YeVT.
Basically will there be a vast improvement over xbox? I am seriously considering buying all these parts right now.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 19, 2013 3:29:42 AM

you can pretty much max out bf3 with a 7950. just that dont bother with 8x msaa. it does nothing and only makes performance worse
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