Haswell June 3rd -- First pc build

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I've had a lot of help from this forum making my build -- http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YGic

But, I was wondering if I should wait until the haswell came out to use that? A little background, I want a computer for video editing and some light effects along with a good gaming computer. That's what we've come up with for my build above^^^ I don't know if any of the components I have are compatible with the haswell or if it will make a difference in what my pc goals are or not. My price range is $1200 ish.. Also, I don't really know anything about motherboards, at all. So try to explain it simply for me if you don't mind:) - Thanks in advance!

*edit* Also i would like to have an SSD over and HDD however, I've been told that people buy a small SSD and put only some stuff on it then buy like a 1t HDD and put almost everything else on it? Could someone explain or advise on this please.
 
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With June fast approaching, I would generally recommend you wait unless you get a good deal. For example, MicroCenter is supposed selling the i7-3770k for $230 (walk in only) based on a thread I replied to today. The expected street price of the i7-4770k is $350. The best case scenario guess-timates on the web thinks Haswell will be up to 15% more power than Ivy Bridge.

Let's just assuming 15% is fact the performance increase for the sake of this scenario. It merely pointed out that to get that 15% performance increase he would need to spend 52% more ($230 --> $350; excluding taxes) based on the deal he can get from MicroCenter. If you live near a MicroCenter, then I suggest you grab an i7-3770k before they run out.

If you do not live near MicroCenter, then you figure out if spending and extra $37 ($313 vs. $350) for the CPU and probably about $40 more for a socket 1150 motherboard; for a total estimate of $77; is worth it for Haswell. To me, that is a relatively small price to pay for the latest and greatest. I'm actually contemplating upgrading from my Q9450 to either Haswell or Broadwell (2014).

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Regarding the SSD, I recommend at least 128GB capacity. You want the OS to be installed on it. You also want the programs / games you use / play most often on it. The HDD is more or less storage. Since SSDs have a pretty high $$ / GB ratio, you will want to disable Hibernation which saves 4GB - 6GB of space (can't remember exactly) and you want to move the pagefile to the HDD.

You also need to set aside a 20% reserve (of the remaining space after it is formatted) for TRIM which is basically is used to help the SSD last longer. If you were to install a SSD and HDD in a PC and then run a program that continuously writes 1's and 0's in both drives, you will find that the SSD will die much sooner than a HDD (unless it suffers an odd mechanical failure). Each sector in a SSD can only be written over so many times before it is expected to fail. Without getting very technical, TRIM sets aside sectors to on the SSD as a "fail safe reserve" to help mitigate the "damage" do to a SSD. I think the current estimate is a SSD should last about 4 / 5 years based on typical usage.
 
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I guess if it's that small of a price difference I'll go with the haswell. However, are all of my parts comparable with it? So, If I bought an hdd and an ssd and booted up my pc for the first time it would ask me where to download everything? along with games? (I've only ever had hdd) Also, if hdd is basically just storage.. well I mean does it matter what I put on it? Like If I put for example, Bf3 on both. Would running it off the sdd run better or would it really make a difference?
 
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Ummmmmm recommendations?? keeping in mind what I want my rig to do.. and price:)
 
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According to the Wikipedia page (so take this with a grain of salt), LGA 1155-compatible coolers also work with LGA 1150: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1150
That said, I'd wait for confirmation on that from a more trustworthy source.
 
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Just to be clear, the only thing non compatible is the cooler? because, wiki isn't exactly reliable?
 
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The parts you have on the PC Part Picker list that are not or may not be compatible are: i7-3770k (obviously), ASRock Z77 Extreme4 (due to being socket 1155 instead of 1150), Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (possibly, may be compatible however), SeaSonic S12II 80 Plus Bronze 620w PSU (should be compatible, but not on SeaSonic's compatible with Haswell list).
 
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Yep.

The cooler must be compatible with socket 1150. If you do not find any good socket 1150 cooler when Haswell is released, then I would probably just use the stock cooler and do not overclock until you find something you like.

Naturally, it is rather impossible to recommend a Z87 chipset motherboard at this point in time for the i7-4770k.
 
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What? I had been lead to believe that people who gave tech advice on the internet had magical powers of divination. Why else would people keep asking us how many FPS their build will get on games that haven't been released yet?
 
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I predict the upcoming Radeon HD 8450 graphic card will be so powerful that it will be the last GPU you will ever need. I predict at 4k resolution and MAXIMUM ULTRA INFINITY graphic setting that it will be capable of running Metro Last Light at 200 FPS.
 
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Praise the tech oracle!
 
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"The parts you have on the PC Part Picker list that are not or may not be compatible are: i7-3770k (obviously), ASRock Z77 Extreme4 (due to being socket 1155 instead of 1150), Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (possibly, may be compatible however), SeaSonic S12II 80 Plus Bronze 620w PSU (should be compatible, but not on SeaSonic's compatible with Haswell list)."
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So I have to change some of this for the haswell?

 
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The motherboard is obvious. As I stated, you'll need a Z87 chipset mobo which will be socket 1150. The CPU cooler we have already discussed.

As the for the power supply, I suppose the fear is that Haswell will be introducing a new lower power state and when it enters that power state the wattage needed is so low that they typical power supply may not be able to provide it consistently; meaning there might be spikes above that low wattage or dips below the minimum wattage necessary for that new low power state.

Seasonic is more or less the premier PSU manufacturer in the world. So I generally think that their PSUs should be able to handle such a low load. Call it blind faith for lack of better term. There is no real reason to buy parts this very second unless there is a particular sale going on. If you want a PSU that is on the "Haswell list", then just choose one that is on the list.
 
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