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Xbox One/PS4 vs High-end Gaming PC

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May 22, 2013 10:44:25 AM

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm quite worried that my PC won't fair well against the PS4/Xbox One. Easier this year, I built a High-end AMD Gaming rig, With the following specs :

Here's my Specs to make this easier.

NZXT Phantom 410 Full Tower Case.
ASUS CrossHair V Formula-Z Motherboard.
AMD FX 8350 CPU
SanDisk Extreme 240GB SSD.
Corsair H100i CPU Water Cooler.
Seagate 1TB Hard Drive.
Corsair Vengeance (4X4GB) 16GB DDR3 1600MHz.
LG Blu-ray drive.
OCZ Fatal1ty 750W PSU.
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 7970 Vapor-X 3GB GPU

Sony and Microsoft seem to think their consoles will be more powerful than any currant PC GPU (Not sure about the Nvidia GTX 690 though) Not only that, the PS4 will use DDR5 Ram?

Anyone else worried that we may have to seriously upgrade our systems? Or is this all just a massive PR stunt from both companies?
May 22, 2013 10:48:36 AM

I have no fear that ill need to upgrade my PC one bit to compete with a console.
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May 22, 2013 10:52:23 AM

chill man, the amd apu jaguar is an eight core processor yes but they are clocked at 1.6/2.0 ghz, no where near the 8350, like far from it. Moreover it is an apu which yes is alright but is no way near the match to a vapor x 7970. you have nothing to worry about man. Thats a killer setup to....
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May 22, 2013 10:55:45 AM

Microsoft said that the Xbox One features a <5 billion chip, which means around 5.1 billion probably.
Your CPU takes up 1.2 Billion while your Graphics card uses 4.3 billion, without counting in that the Xbox's parts will feature lower clocks, your PC should be a decent bit faster.

We do on the other hand have a few more details about the PS4's specs.
It features an 8 Core AMD CPU @ 2ghz which cores do not share resources, so in theory it will, at best be as fast as an FX 8320 at stock.
And its graphics chip is about as fast as a HD 7870 so no worries here.

You do however need to keep in mind that these consoles are meant to operate at 30 FPS, and are not twice slower than your PC, so at the same detail settings as the consoles, your PC will not render as much as 60 FPS.
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May 22, 2013 11:03:59 AM

Bryan Choi said:
chill man, the amd apu jaguar is an eight core processor yes but they are clocked at 1.6/2.0 ghz, no where near the 8350, like far from it. Moreover it is an apu which yes is alright but is no way near the match to a vapor x 7970. you have nothing to worry about man. Thats a killer setup to....


I forgot about the APU, and the 1.6/2.0 GHz clock. Although no details have been released about a possible dedicated GPU for the Xbox One as yet. I own all consoles, but since building my rig and Microsoft almost killing the used game market for Xbox One, I don't think I'll be buying a console again.

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May 22, 2013 11:11:45 AM

all im saying is that i quit console and im not going back. no worries consoles will take years to get to your level of computer. consoles will never be able to compete directly with pc's. moreover even with a dedicated graphics it would have a 9970m (not even out yet, never will be put into consoles) to even have a proper comparison.
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May 22, 2013 1:10:43 PM

Q> Will they beat your rig?
A> yes and no :D 

From a sheer power point of view - no, since they are about as powerful as last gen HW... Which is a good feat, but nothing spectacular. And thus they lose to your gaming beast :D 

From pure gaming point of view - yes, and optimization is the keyword. The PC is an all rounder - it needs to do many things an many things it does. The console is good only and purely for gaming. Thus it has massive memory bandwidth (something your PC can only dream of) and many tweaks made solely for running games.
Also games for PC need to run at million various hardware combinations, the console has only one choice. So the developers can fully focus on the gameplay and special effects (as they don't need to fear any incompatibilities and bugs from various HW choices)...
(If you don't believe me, check any emulation forums for the specs needed to emulate good old PS2. And you'll be surprised).

Well. But you have something the console doesn't - freedom of choice. You can use any mod and any patch you need. You can get hires textures (something the consoles don't have). You can have way better sound than any console can even dream of (even pinpoint precise audio is something that the consoles are missing) if you feel like having a dedicated sound card. Also you can upgrade your rig anytime you feel like to.
Also, the console is made to last at least few years. They might be powerful as hell now, but within a year or two, they'll be evenly matched by any pocket calculator :D 
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May 22, 2013 6:00:02 PM

nightcrawer105 said:
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm quite worried that my PC won't fair well against the PS4/Xbox One. Easier this year, I built a High-end AMD Gaming rig, With the following specs :

Here's my Specs to make this easier.

NZXT Phantom 410 Full Tower Case.
ASUS CrossHair V Formula-Z Motherboard.
AMD FX 8350 CPU
SanDisk Extreme 240GB SSD.
Corsair H100i CPU Water Cooler.
Seagate 1TB Hard Drive.
Corsair Vengeance (4X4GB) 16GB DDR3 1600MHz.
LG Blu-ray drive.
OCZ Fatal1ty 750W PSU.
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 7970 Vapor-X 3GB GPU

Sony and Microsoft seem to think their consoles will be more powerful than any currant PC GPU (Not sure about the Nvidia GTX 690 though) Not only that, the PS4 will use DDR5 Ram?

Anyone else worried that we may have to seriously upgrade our systems? Or is this all just a massive PR stunt from both companies?


as is, your CPU and GPU have more power then the xbox one / PS4 set up
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstati...

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June 11, 2013 9:59:07 AM

nightcrawer105 said:
Anyone else worried that we may have to seriously upgrade our systems? Or is this all just a massive PR stunt from both companies?


Nope. don't feel like your PC has to be better than all the consoles! ok, the gap between the two in terms of graphics performance doesn't seem very clear now, but you have a lot of other aspects which makes PC gaming a great way to go. mention "choice" or "options" to a console gamer and watch their reaction. it's something you don't realise is there until you try out PC gaming.
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June 11, 2013 1:27:19 PM

It'll be a couple years before PC's catch up to the PS4.

Software and hardware integration go hand-in-hand when it comes to optimization... which is a problem with the PC.

If you want to build a computer that is comparable, at lease spec wise, to the PS4, you're paying a minimum of 3x's more than the $399 asking price of the PS3.
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June 12, 2013 4:13:09 AM

clided said:
It'll be a couple years before PC's catch up to the PS4.

Software and hardware integration go hand-in-hand when it comes to optimization... which is a problem with the PC.

If you want to build a computer that is comparable, at lease spec wise, to the PS4, you're paying a minimum of 3x's more than the $399 asking price of the PS3.


luckily people don't listen to village idiots and pc gamer was able to do it for only 2x but thanks for the "couple of years" comment, it was so absurd it was funny.
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June 12, 2013 4:40:45 AM

Never , TBH the PS4 can't beat anything above a Core i3 and a GTX 660. The Jaguar APU has got nothing to beat the FX 8350 and 7970 except when it comes to low power consumption. Just remember that while the PS4 and XBOX ONE can play games for 5-7 years atleast at considerable quality , your PC might struggle to do so at that time. Consoles are for PC gamers wannabes who can't afford to upgrade their PC as time goes. I am sure Sony and Microsoft will have these consoles back until they feel its time to headup.
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June 12, 2013 4:45:00 AM

The PS4/X1 has a 2Ghz Jaguar APU, which while not being a complete match, is pretty close to what we are already seeing on the desktop. You can read reviews of it here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/kabini-a4-5000-revi...
But fair to say, in terms of sheer CPU grunt PC's are way ahead of the next-gen consoles.

The iGPU of the consoles is a bit meatier, with the PS4 having the raw grunt of about a 7850 and the X1 coming in around a 7790. To what extent optimization will play a role is unknown, but lets just say I don't think you will be all that concerned with your 7970.

The PS4 does use GDDR5 as its combined system and video memory. With a fairly lightweight OS that means it could have around 6GB of effective VRAM, which sounds impressive but wont make much of a difference, 3GB is more than enough for 1080p gaming at present, with most games not even using 1.5GB. It might help in the future when gaming at 1440p or 4K resolutions becomes common, but I suspect by then the GPU will be struggling to the point the extra VRAM would mean nothing.

With your rig, would not be concerned about the next-gen consoles outgunning your PC. They have to come in at a price point and within certain power and size restraints, none of which are a problem for the enthusiast PC.
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June 23, 2013 5:24:40 AM

Where did u purchase ur setup from? I think i mite get the same setup.
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