gtx 780 build opinions please :)

Adrian Llorca · May 23, 2013

Hi guys, i'm new here... I was hoping to get some opinions on this build. Its a £3000 custom build from cyberpower with the new gtx 780 (non negotiable lol) with the view to eventually sli the buggers

I went i7 because the i5 3750 was only £80 cheaper. Anything I should consider/upgrade/downgrade etc? Thanks!

•CASE: Thermaltake Level 10GT Full Tower Wide Body Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel
•CPU: Intel® Core™ Quad Core i7-3770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Cache LGA1155 + HD Graphics
•FAN: CP Adv MKII WaterCooling Large Kit 360mm w/ XSPC RayStorm CPU Block, Dual D5 Pump & Reservoir, AX360 Radiator w/ Dual Fan (CPU & GPU Liquid Cooling, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silence at 18dBA)
•HDD: 2x120 GB Corsair Force Neutron GTX SATA III Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (240GB (120GBx2) Raid 0)
•HDD2: 240 GB Corsair Force Neutron GTX SATA III Gaming MLC Solid State Disk
•MEMORY: 16GB (2x8GB) PC12800 DDR3/1600mhz Dual Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX Blu w/Heat Spreader)
•MONITOR: Asus 27" PB278Q WQHD, IPS LED Monitor. 2560x1440, HDMI, 2xDVI-D, Display Port & D-Sub
•MOTHERBOARD: Asus Maximus V Extreme ROG Intel Z77 Chipset, 4-way CrossFire / SLI supported, E-ATX Mainboard w/ 4 RAM slots, DDR3 (2800Mhz OC), Intel Thunderbolt, LucidLogix Virtu MVP, USB3.0, SATA-III, 5 PCIe X16, 1 PCIe X4, 1 x mini-PCIe 2.0
•OS: Microsoft® Windows 8 Pro (64-bit Edition) (64-bit Edition)
•POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts Power Supplies (Corsair 850 Watts TX850 Enthusiast Series Gaming Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready)
•SPEAKERS: Logitech Z313 2.1 DT Speakers
•VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card

Marcopolo123 · May 23, 2013

Just no lol

Overpriced xD
I would wait for haswell.

g-unit1111 · May 23, 2013

Just no lol
Overpriced xD

What he said. :lol:

And here's why - I really dislike the Level 10, it's an ugly plastic monstrosity that's way overpriced and there's about a hundred cases I would rather purchase than that one. Plastic water cooling I'm also not the biggest fan of.

3 SSDs is also massive overkill - and running them in RAID puts them in a far greater position to fail than running the drives independently. Just get one and then get a 1 or 2TB mass storage drive. That's way more cost effective.

For gaming the i7 isn't needed - and the Maximus V is ridiculously overpriced, and you could get a board that's far less expensive. That Kingston RAM is rated 1.65 V and won't work well with Ivy Bridge.

Also, don't purchase those Logitech tin cans. Paying $25 for speakers on a $3K rig really makes the whole thing look cheap. Cut down on a few things and invest more money in a better speaker setup like a pair of Klipsch Pro Medias or Audioengine A5s.

Adrian Llorca · May 23, 2013

Thanks for the response, that's very useful. The speakers aren't that important as I'll have some headphones, if they aren't that good then I just won't get them, I have a set up for the tv anyway.

I'll take the advise on the hard drives and go 250sdd and 2tb hd instead.

Is the processor really not worth £80 more then the i5??

And lastly, what mb would you go for? The Asus saver tooth or p8z77 pro?

Thanks for your input

redeemer · May 23, 2013

If you can go for it the GTX 780 is basically the Titan for $350 less

Adrian Llorca · May 23, 2013

Also I should add that I'd like to be able to max out crysis 3 and metro so it's good for gaming for years!

Adrian Llorca · May 23, 2013

Redeemer, yeah I'm onnit, it's already in my build I listed

looks like a bad ass card!

Marcopolo123 · May 23, 2013

Not worth it,
I would buy a Gigabyte z77 ud3h, very solid, good price.
Sabertooth z77 is overpriced, not very good.

And note, haswell will come , and new motherboards also

Adrian Llorca · May 23, 2013

Ok that's noted, with an i5... Or the new batch when it's released

dave0510 · May 23, 2013

g-unit1111 :

Just no lol
Overpriced xD

What he said. :lol:

And here's why - I really dislike the Level 10, it's an ugly plastic monstrosity that's way overpriced and there's about a hundred cases I would rather purchase than that one. Plastic water cooling I'm also not the biggest fan of.

3 SSDs is also massive overkill - and running them in RAID puts them in a far greater position to fail than running the drives independently. Just get one and then get a 1 or 2TB mass storage drive. That's way more cost effective.

For gaming the i7 isn't needed - and the Maximus V is ridiculously overpriced, and you could get a board that's far less expensive. That Kingston RAM is rated 1.65 V and won't work well with Ivy Bridge.

Also, don't purchase those Logitech tin cans. Paying $25 for speakers on a $3K rig really makes the whole thing look cheap. Cut down on a few things and invest more money in a better speaker setup like a pair of Klipsch Pro Medias or Audioengine A5s.

What's plastic water cooling?

g-unit1111 · May 23, 2013

dave0510 :

That's another term for a self contained liquid cooler - they use plastic tubing instead of real PVC tubing that full liquid loops do.

I'll take the advise on the hard drives and go 250sdd and 2tb hd instead.

Is the processor really not worth £80 more then the i5??

And lastly, what mb would you go for? The Asus saver tooth or p8z77 pro?

1. Yeah that will be a far better storage solution and more cost effective.

2. No - games don't make use of the extra threads that the i7 provides except for maybe something Crysis, but very few (if any games) use the resources that Crysis does.

3. Sabertooth isn't really worth it either. The plastic armor on the board traps more heat than it's supposed to prevent. The P8Z77-V Pro or the Gigabyte Z77X-UP4 TH are better, cheaper options.

Adrian Llorca · May 23, 2013

Thanks dude, that sounds like good advice. Apart from that, everything else should be good? Oh and what memory would you advise then? Thanks again

g-unit1111 · May 23, 2013

Adrian Llorca :

I'd have to know what store you plan on buying from before I can suggest RAM.

Adrian Llorca · May 23, 2013

It's Cyberpower...

Marcopolo123 · May 23, 2013

Mhh please try to build the pc urself ...

g-unit1111 · May 23, 2013

Adrian Llorca :

Why not build your own? You could get a far better and cheaper system than you could get buying from Cyberpower.

For RAM I'd suggest http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-lp-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

Marcopolo123 · May 23, 2013

Adrian Llorca · May 24, 2013

It has crossed my mind many times to build it myself and maybe treat myself to a second 780 with the savings but this would be my first build and it's pretty expensive if I mess it up lol

giltyler · May 24, 2013

You would have to try really hard to mess up building a computer.
In the past there was the chance of bending a pin on the cpu but intel changed that.
The hardware today is clearly marked and with the advice from this site you will be buying compatable parts.
You actually stand a fair chance that a prebuilt rig will have things come loose in shipping.
The I7 is not needed but if you want to get it no problem go for it.
Also Do not skimp on the power supply and the fully modular ones are easier to work with.
The one you have selected is not a bad unit but considering the level of the build and maybe 2 GTX 780s I would get a better larger unit. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207021

Adrian Llorca · May 24, 2013

I guess.... This site is great, the advice is spot on and very helpful. Can you advise on a really good water cooler? Something that looks awesome, safe and runs freezing? All I've seen is crap looking h100i etc or buying individual pieces of hose and fittings etc. it's hard enough getting compatible components, without worrying about all the water cooler crap lol

g-unit1111 · May 24, 2013

Adrian Llorca :

Water cooling is just not necessary for a rig. If it's your first time building I'd just skip it entirely and get a strong air cooler like a Noctua D14 or a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.

Adrian Llorca · May 24, 2013

Really? I want it overclocked to high hell and although it's my first build, it may be the last build I get to do for a loooong time so I'm not looking to keep upgrading it, beyond adding another 780 sli..

Marcopolo123 · May 24, 2013

Take a second gtx 780
Switch the case for a nzxt 810
http://www.scan.co.uk/search.aspx?q=Nzxt+810

A good air cooler would be enough
But if you want to watercool, i found this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Swiftech-H20-220-Series-Watercooling-White/dp/B0073CRLVY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1369383933&sr=8-3&keywords=swiftech+h220

AxlFone · May 24, 2013

Kind wonder how the moderators are picked here.

They tell you a fabrication to interpret the claims. Like g-unit1111

That Kingston RAM is rated 1.65 V and won't work well with Ivy Bridge.

I do not know where he did pick up that 1.65V memory story. Or what memory he did mean.

Kingston says about blue memory this :
http://media.kingston.com/pdfs/HyperX_Blu_EN.pdf

>
Unique
— sleek HyperX design in a colour to match any
system (blue, red or black)
>
XMP profiles
— easy to enable, factory configured for best maximum performance
>
Reliable
— 100 per cent factory tested
>
Compatible
— tested with all popular brands of motherboards
>
Guaranteed
— lifetime warranty, free technical support
>
Flexible
— available in single modules as well as factory
paired kits
>
Easy to install
SPECIFICATIONS
>
Capacities
up to 8GB (single) and 16GB (kits)
>Frequency (speed) DDR3: 1333MHz and 1600MHz
>CAS latencies DDR3: CL9 and CL10
>Voltage DDR3: JEDEC standard at 1.5V +- 0.075V
> Operating temperature 0°C to 85°C
>Storage temperature
-55°C to 100°C
>Dimensions DIMM 133.35mm x 30mm
>XMP Ready
hand-tuned by Kingston engineers, specific to
particular memory module. Higher-performing frequencies
and timings are attainable by simply enabling Intel’s Extreme
Memory Profile in the BIOS
>Compatible with P55, H67, P67, Z68, Z77 and H61 Intel

then other thing.

I'd just skip it entirely and get a strong air cooler like a Noctua D14 or a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo.

Why anyone recommend Noctua D14 it old and it is loud cooler. New model is in store.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041&Tpk=Noctua%20NH-U14S&IsVirtualParent=1
This is better in all categories you can think off.

the third thing.

Water cooling is just not necessary for a rig. If it's your first time building

Plastic water cooling I'm also not the biggest fan of.

Anyone who thinks differently is wrong? Or is this one false opinion again? Think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8HsjgtMzEg

I really do think that moderator needs to tell truth. Or maybe not here. But why is moderator telling lies? IMO
This is kind funny to notice the way things are handled in this forum by moderators.

Adrian Llorca · May 24, 2013

Ummm sound like good points to me :-/ awkward lol. So what are your opinions on the build Axlfone?

gtx 780 build opinions please :)

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