Adware anti-viral issues

I think the general public is really taking the wrong measures against malware. You shouldn't look for ways to DELETE them or DETECT & KILL. You should look for ways to PREVENT. Once they get into your system, whatever task they were created to do, they would've done it by the time you can get rid of it. So getting rid of it doesn't mean anything by that point. Damage is done. No program will undo those changes for you. Maybe if you make daily snapshots, you can revert back to an older version. System Restore is not backup nor snapshots. So in the end, no one, other than maybe you, care if you deleted it.

The tech may have some truth to his/her statement. If you let the malware in, then it is your fault. I know there are internet security applications, which are different from antivirus applications, but they also cannot detect 100% of all malware nor can they guarantee 100% that they will prevent all malware.

The best route is to not allow them access to your system core files. A good way is to lock down the administrator account(s). No one should use an administrator account. Use a standard account. So if you get a virus and you are clueless enough or foolish enough to supply an admin password and allow it to install or run, then you really screwed yourself. Daily snapshots are also great. You can also use a non-IE browser. Firefox is good and has tons of security plugins. Chrome is decent. Running VMs or in a sandbox environment are also good preventive measures.

There are many ways to prevent the issue. Most people don't choose this route and hide behind a program hoping that it alone can keep them safe.

Hence why the common man is not. By profit, I will assume you meant monetary profit. Where's the profit for many Linux or *BSD distributions that pride themselves in security? There isn't one. Where's the profit in open-source programming? There isn't one. If I were to create a virus, I will create it with the intent that it works great and destroys the user's operating system. The joy didn't come from me wanting to make a profit. The joy didn't come from me caring that others are too stupid to know how to prevent it. The joy come from knowing that it worked and that it was a success. If we all had the same morals, we wouldn't have any issues.



You don't always get what you expect. Expect the unexpected. Your car insurance company charge you a premium and I doubt it pays for every crash or absurd thing that you get yourself into. So if you were to get into 5 accidents in a day, your insurance company will be okay with it and just get you back up and running? I doubt it. Even they have limits. So do antiviral and internet security suites.



It's not easy. So many are created in a day. Let's say you work for some company that makes an antivirus software. If I were creating one and released it just now, how would you make your program detect that my virus is an actual virus or that it's malicious to the system? Because first of all, it takes time for you to be aware of my virus. And different masking and encryption are available to mask it. It's not like every malware comes with a big red sign saying "MALWARE ALERT INCOMING". Wouldn't that be nice to have?



Not true. Even seasoned professional technicians cannot undo damages to the system that were caused by the malware (if any). They may be able to remove all traces of the malware, but it may be too late because it already did its job. So you're paying them to remove something that may not actually help your system. It's like if I wrote some malicious code to remove some registry entries in Windows 7. Once my malware enters your computer, it executes that command immediately. So it removed some registry entries. That's it. It's done. Feel free to remove the malware. Not like I care. It did its job. You are not likely to be able to reverse the damage(s).

Yeah I mean it's a rough world. Obviously there are some troubled people. But my best advice for you is to read up on prevention instead of detection + deletion. I've ran Windows 7 for years without any AV or IS apps and I haven't gotten any issues. I don't need their help in protecting me. You know what they say "if you want it done right, you got to do it yourself".

Agreed. But you wouldn't need that if you do what I said in my first post in this thread. So if I never get malware, I don't need a detector for it. At the same time, even if malware gets in somehow, it can't harm my system because it has no access to system files. So big deal.

There is a guide in my signature that will help you remove pretty much any infection for free.

Office Computer - for use with Office products to ensure the running of the company is profitable and books are kept in order etc..
It is not to be used for fun, downloading anything that is not related to the running of the office, and visits to web sites should not be those that might offend, disgrace, or discriminate others in the said office.

Any misuse of the Office Computer will result in immediate termination of said culprit.

Set your Parental Controls to Maximum, have a log on option for all users with ID numbers, and any user who does not have permission to use the PC while it is being used by an authorized person will be reprimanded and sujected to the full arm of the BOSS' LAW, with a swift kick in the backside, and a week without pay.

You don't need extravagant anti-virus software if you stick to the basic rules of the Office PC Conduct Rules (see above).
MSE is more than enough for anyone as an anti-virus product.

Perhaps the solution here is to get a seperate PC that is used just for Browsing and Research and keep the Office PC for your business...