First time gaming desktop build advise, £850 budget live in UK

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Ok thankyou firstly for all or any help you guys could provide.

I have been gaming on my laptop for a while and it is dying so i think its time to upgrade, and i live in the UK. Firstly I have no screen or keyboard so that need to be included in my max price. I'm researching now the component nowand thats where i need help to maximise my money in a way.

I'm looking to spend in total lets say £850 but I could go a little more maybe if you think its worth it.

Currently I'm looking at this build http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/snowingairlines/saved/1BSG

Though I might want to change some components possibly

change ram to http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl11d8gbxl
change case http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-sgc1000kwn1

and i think i will add more memory later

p.s. I would prefer a smaller case if possible but it is not super important and also would it be better to get an AMD possibly due to the PS4 and Xbox 1 using them the games might run smoother? or is that completely wrong lol?
 
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First of all I'd recommend you to wait as we got Haswell coming pretty soon as well as the Nvidia GTX 700 series. The performance won't get bumped up that much in Haswell than Ivy but it supports a newer socket which is 1150. So if you get the Ivy Bridge you'd be stuck with the 1155 socket and no way to upgrade rather than just from i5 to i7.


Even then if you choose to get it now, both of the memory module you chose I'll like to change them to this :

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmd8gx3m2a1600c9
It costs a bit more but worth it.
8GB is more than enough for gaming. And the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H (rev 1.0) doesn't seem to support the one you chose. Please go to the manufacture's website for detailed specs.
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I'd say you're pretty much set with that list. one thing I would recommend you upgrade is the monitor. although it's only a few inches, going from a 20 to a 23/24 inch monitor makes a huge difference, much more noticeable than a 10% theoretically faster PC component. for lowering the cost you could go with some 1333 or 1600Mhz RAM (still 8GB though), as real world performance isn't that different with higher clocked RAM. if you want to keep costs down further then you can leave the 3rd party cooler out and overclock later.
 
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First of all I'd recommend you to wait as we got Haswell coming pretty soon as well as the Nvidia GTX 700 series. The performance won't get bumped up that much in Haswell than Ivy but it supports a newer socket which is 1150. So if you get the Ivy Bridge you'd be stuck with the 1155 socket and no way to upgrade rather than just from i5 to i7.


Even then if you choose to get it now, both of the memory module you chose I'll like to change them to this :

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmd8gx3m2a1600c9
It costs a bit more but worth it.
8GB is more than enough for gaming. And the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H (rev 1.0) doesn't seem to support the one you chose. Please go to the manufacture's website for detailed specs.
You wanted smaller case so the NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) seems to be smaller rather than the CoolerMaster Storm Enforcer. Though I myself would get the Enforcer. :p
The monitor and the gpu combination seems fine by me. The psu is compatible too.
Are you going to overclock? If no, there's no point of getting a 'K' series. Though I'd recommend it 'cause in future you may want to.
That's about it.
And you'll do fine with Intel.
 
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Firstly guys thanks for the reply!!!

While you did that I was building a desktop on the site and i came to be more than i originally wanted but uses a much better cpu and also include all the extra stuff. The Haswell I had no idea about it coming out so thanks alot i guess i will put this off for a week so I am able to get them. Couple of questions and thanks again:

1- Does my current build below work? just to check that there all compatible i think they are
2- I'm guessing its the perfect time then lol due to the new processors...hopefully tehre not too much
3-Basically is there anything you would change as I originally mentioned £850 but I do have more, would the areas I have spent it be worth it. (kinda what would you do lol)

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ZUR3

Guys really I know I am asking alot and I really appreciate your replies but I do want to get the best build I can, thanks.

p.s. Building a AMD system right now and will check to see if waiting is worth it, but looking in my price range amd is generally better it seems, though new processors.....damn.
 
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Just checking if I did use a AMD i would likely using this processor http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-336-AM

Therefore with only a little performance drop I would save £70. Now i'm left with the question is it better to go for this AMD processor in the current build above or wait for the neww intel processors? Does anyone have any view on this?

To Marcopolo123 I think I was stretching a bit far with the processor and have dropped to the AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8350 shown in the link above. The current graphics card I have I thought was about right and good value for money.

1 question does having a AMD graphics card and processor make it run smoother at all or is that a lie?
 
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Haswell will be there in June hopefully. And the price won't be much as it's said. It'll be the same as the Ivy-s were at their release according to the models like i5 4570 will be of the same price as the i5 3570 was. So hopefully it would be around 220$ at most IMO.
Yes of course your current build work. The motherboard you chose, it's got support for DDR3 2800(OC)/1600/1333/1066 MHz memory modules. SO if you attach a stick of 1866 MHz, it'll work at 1600 MHz unless you overclock it to 2800 MHz.
( http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4153#sp )
I'd choose a display of 1600x900 'cause I'd be getting a 7870. A 7870 2GB performs pretty well in 1080p now but can't guarantee the future games. So the previous Asus was just fine IMO.
Other than these your build is quite good, would be enough for around the next 1-1.5 years believing you will want to play your games at at least 40+ FPS and at reasonable graphics settings.
 
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With the new haswell cpu and motherboard you would have a very good basis for the future.

Fx 6300 and fx8350 are similar in performance
If you go with the fx 6300, you can get a better graphics card which results in better gaming performance.

Hd 7870+ fx 6300 > Hd 7850+ fx 8350
Hd 7850+ i5-3570k/i7-3770k. < hd7870 + fx 6300
 
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Ok thanks again for the reply and im sorry if i'm asking some stupid questions, just want to clarify some points. I will put this off for till the 3rd when the new processors come out. While thats going on will do some more research and stuff. Thanks for the help and I will probably use a similar setup currently shown and fix the motherboard error.

last question i'm guessing I would need one of the new motherboards that will work with the new intel processors?
 
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Yes, it must be a 1150 socket motherboard which will be in market along with the Haswells. And if you don't want to overclock or use dual gpus, I'd suggest you not to go for the Z series one. The H series, P series or B series would do just fine and would save money which can be used for gpu as it matters the most while you're gaming.
And we're all here to just advice you in our way bro. You take the suggestions from us but the final choice is always yours.
 
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This looks good. 8 Gb of ram is plenty. I saw some mention of the haswell, yeah it is out now, but pricey. Stay with what you have. You will be happy.

 
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