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Better Budget build for the price? AMD FX-8350 + GTX 660

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May 25, 2013 9:30:15 AM

Update been going over all the 8350 builds on this forum, so now mainly just looking for input on how to trim the price down w/out big performance hits!

Updating as i go :) 

What I aim to do: High/Max gaming- GW2/ESOnline/Crysis3/
What I have now: Low/Med gaming - GW2/Skyrim

Intel Q8400 2.66 (at 3.1)
CPUBoss/Passmark: 6.8/3,243

Radeon HD 5770 1GB
GPU Boss/Passmark: 6.3/1,684





CPU:

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor $129.99
CPUBoss/Passmark: 7.9/6,431
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 61.2/49.9 - 55.6

AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor $159.99
CPUBoss/Passmark: 8.1/8,181
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 50.9/51.5 - 51.2

INTEL 3350kp 3.1GHz 4-Core Processor $178.99
CPUBoss/Passmark: 6.8/6,210
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 38.2/34.9 - 36.6

AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor $189.99
CPUBoss/Passmark: 8.4/9,143
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 44.4/48.4 - 46.4

INTEL 3470k 3.4GHz 4-Core Processor $209.99
CPUBoss/Passmark: 8.8/7,112
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 42.1/34.0 - 38.0

Video Card:
Asus GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB $174.99
GPU Boss/Passmark: 6.9/3,405
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 39.7/19.7 - 29.7

PNY GeForce GTX 660 2GB $199.99
GPU Boss/Passmark: 7.4/4,093
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 37.2/20.6 - 28.9

Zotac GeForce GTX 570 1.25GB $244.99
GPU Boss/Passmark: 7.5/4,358
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 30.7/17.9 - 24.3

Asus GeForce GTX 660Ti 2GB $249.99
GPU Boss/Passmark: 7.6/4,663
$4Score Boss/PMrk: 30.5/18.7 - 24.6




CPU Cooler :
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 $29.74

Motherboard:
ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $74.99
Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $78.99


Memory:
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $50



Already Have:
OCZ zt650 PSU + Case + optical drive + OS + peripherals










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Looking to build a budget gaming desktop and have a few questions.

#1: For AMD FX-8350 build is it worth going from $70 for a 970 mobo to $110 for a 990.

#2: Pre rebates AMD is $555 intel $565, with just gaming in mind ( GW2, EScrolls Online... etc) is it worth it to go with the 8core or stick with intel 4 core

#3: Is there a better build for under $570 that i haven't thought of yet?





Was thinking of building around:
CPU: AMD FX-8350 (~$190)
GPU: GTX 660 2gb (~190)
Cooler: CM Hyper 212 (~$30)

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RAM: 8-16 GB 1333-1600 (~$70-99)
MOBO: AMD 970-990 (~70-110)

Have case/psu/hdd/dvddrive etc. Need cpu/gpu/heatsink/ram/mobo.



Is this about what I'm looking at:

AMD BASE SYSTEM:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZTEU

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor $189.99
CPU Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $29.74
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $78.99
Memory: Corsair XMS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $69.99
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card $209.99

After rebates(-$55) it is: ~$500
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With 1333 ram from intel build took 20 off.

------ VS ------

INTEL BASE SYSTEM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZTLu

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $209.99
CPU Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $29.74
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $74.99
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $46.98
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card $199.99

After rebates(-$25): ~$540


---------- lower builds ---------------------

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZU1t

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor $159.99
CPU Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 $29.74
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $78.99
Memory: Corsair XMS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $69.99
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB $174.99

After rebates(-$40): ~$480 but takes a decent performance hit


------------- Compare ------------

PassMark Scores CPU+CPU:

AMD Build Total: 13236
Pre Rebate Cost: $555
$/Performance: 23.9
FX-8350: 9143
GTX-660: 4093

INTEL Build Total: 11215
Pre Rebate Cost: $565
$/Performance: 19.9
I5-3570k: 7122
GTX-660: 4093

Budget AMD Total: 11568
Pre Rebate Cost: $520
$/Performance: 22.3
FX-8320: 8181
GTX-650tiB: 3405


I think i have my build, the 8350 but what do you guys think?
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May 25, 2013 9:38:30 AM

buy your ram in pairs.
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May 25, 2013 9:50:40 AM

Just get 2x4GB 1600 for around $65.

16GB RAM is for Heavy editing work, otherwise 8GB will suffice.

Get a 970 mobo and the saved money put it into a better GPU. This will give you considerable gaming performance.
A 990 mobo is good for people who WILL get a second GPU. If not, get a 970. Spend wisely.
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May 25, 2013 10:01:06 AM

envy14tpe said:
Just get 2x4GB 1600 for around $65.

16GB RAM is for Heavy editing work, otherwise 8GB will suffice.

Get a 970 mobo and the saved money put it into a better GPU. This will give you considerable gaming performance.
A 990 mobo is good for people who WILL get a second GPU. If not, get a 970. Spend wisely.



Sweet, yeah i dont really plan on going SLI by the time the 660/8350 cant keep it it would be prob time for a whole system upgrade anyways. Just trying to find a way to trim the fat down a little :p 
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May 25, 2013 10:07:44 AM

The GTX 660 is a bit weak to be paired with those cpus. I would recommend the Intel build with a change. If your budget is $600, it gives you a bit of leeway.

[Original - $540]
ASUS 660ti - $250 [+$50]
i5 3350P - $180 [-$30]
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May 25, 2013 10:19:53 AM

MasterMace said:
The GTX 660 is a bit weak to be paired with those cpus. I would recommend the Intel build with a change. If your budget is $600, it gives you a bit of leeway.

[Original - $540]
ASUS 660ti - $250 [+$50]
i5 3350P - $180 [-$30]


Does the 660ti really warrant the +50 you think?

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-660-vs--92233720368...

GPU Boss/Passmark:
660: 7.4/4,093
660ti: 7.6/4,663


hmm that 660ti does bump up quite a bit
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May 25, 2013 8:00:19 PM

Can you post a new proposed build with pcpartpicker? but please don't post too much. Just a simple build or two.
Your original post had too much and I skipped most of it cuz it's too much.
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May 25, 2013 8:23:52 PM

envy14tpe said:
Can you post a new proposed build with pcpartpicker? but please don't post too much. Just a simple build or two.
Your original post had too much and I skipped most of it cuz it's too much.


Yeah to got away from me there lol

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZXMS
FX-8320
GTX 660
$515

or

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YZgW
FX-8350
GTX 660
$580


So hard to find the perfect performance vs cost line
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May 26, 2013 1:09:27 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($78.56 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($204.48 @ Amazon)
Total: $542.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-26 04:08 EDT-0400)

Overclocking the 8320 almost matches the 8350, but it's $30 cheaper for the 8320. Also, I prefer EVGA to PNY GPUs.

Another choice. Get a 7870, which is faster than a 660 and just $15 more.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.74 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($78.56 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $558.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-26 04:10 EDT-0400)
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May 26, 2013 1:42:28 AM

Evga with reference design are onferior.
get the asus hd 7870 , you get 4 free games, its faster then a gtx 660
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May 14, 2014 4:34:16 PM

I would recommend the 750 ti it has less power consumption and just as good graphics not to mention the cheaper price
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