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May 25, 2013 7:42:07 PM

I have an AMD 7850 and my CPU is an A8 5500, I am trying to upgrade my PC for gaming and i thought the 7850 would do the trick but when I play Planetside 2 (ultra settings) in intense areas my FPS drops around 25-30, I pressed alt+f and it said my fps then CPU, when it says CPU my fps drops and when it says GPU it goes to around 60-70 fps so i want to upgrade but i dont know if my mobo has to pass certain requirements before i know the i5 3570k will work. when I open my PC the mobo just says CM1745 (its a stock asus mobo) will my mobo be able to run this CPU?

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May 25, 2013 7:50:18 PM

J-Cup said:
I have an AMD 7850 and my CPU is an A8 5500, I am trying to upgrade my PC for gaming and i thought the 7850 would do the trick but when I play Planetside 2 (ultra settings) in intense areas my FPS drops around 25-30, I pressed alt+f and it said my fps then CPU, when it says CPU my fps drops and when it says GPU it goes to around 60-70 fps so i want to upgrade but i dont know if my mobo has to pass certain requirements before i know the i5 3570k will work. when I open my PC the mobo just says CM1745 (its a stock asus mobo) will my mobo be able to run this CPU?


No, you're using an AMD FM2-socket motherboard.

To upgrade to an i5, you'd need to use an Intel LGA-1155 chipset, like b75, h77, z75, z77. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

EDIT: Of course, a motherboard swap also means you'd need to reinstall and possibly repurchase your copy of Windows. Personally I'd probably just stick with the Trinity processor.
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May 25, 2013 8:28:51 PM

You would be better off just getting the 7850 right now. It will provide a much larger performance boost then getting a new processor.

Also to what Fulgurant said,
If you have issues with getting your copy of windows activated, just call support. They will usually get it activated for you.
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May 25, 2013 8:32:04 PM

Fulgurant said:
J-Cup said:
I have an AMD 7850 and my CPU is an A8 5500, I am trying to upgrade my PC for gaming and i thought the 7850 would do the trick but when I play Planetside 2 (ultra settings) in intense areas my FPS drops around 25-30, I pressed alt+f and it said my fps then CPU, when it says CPU my fps drops and when it says GPU it goes to around 60-70 fps so i want to upgrade but i dont know if my mobo has to pass certain requirements before i know the i5 3570k will work. when I open my PC the mobo just says CM1745 (its a stock asus mobo) will my mobo be able to run this CPU?


No, you're using an AMD FM2-socket motherboard.

To upgrade to an i5, you'd need to use an Intel LGA-1155 chipset, like b75, h77, z75, z77. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

EDIT: Of course, a motherboard swap also means you'd need to reinstall and possibly repurchase your copy of Windows. Personally I'd probably just stick with the Trinity processor.


thor220 said:
You would be better off just getting the 7850 right now. It will provide a much larger performance boost then getting a new processor.

Also to what Fulgurant said,
If you have issues with getting your copy of windows activated, just call support. They will usually get it activated for you.

I already have the 7850 installed
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May 25, 2013 8:40:28 PM

what resolution are you running the game at?
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May 25, 2013 8:46:38 PM

thor220 said:
what resolution are you running the game at?


1024x768 and would the A10 5800K be a good alternative since the i5 wont work with my MoBo? I think it will work because they are both trinity processors right?
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May 25, 2013 8:49:39 PM

J-Cup said:
thor220 said:
what resolution are you running the game at?


1024x768 and would the A10 5800K be a good alternative since the i5 wont work with my MoBo? I think it will work because they are both trinity processors right?


You would only get about 10% more speed with that processor. You should try reducing CPU dependent options in the game. For example shadows and ambient occlusion(if it has this).
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May 25, 2013 9:02:41 PM

thor220 said:
You would be better off just getting the 7850 right now. It will provide a much larger performance boost then getting a new processor.

Also to what Fulgurant said,
If you have issues with getting your copy of windows activated, just call support. They will usually get it activated for you.


Yes, if the OP recently bought his system (and I imagine he must have), then Microsoft might agree to switch the license from his AMD motherboard to a new Intel motherboard. That's assuming he's using an OEM copy of Windows. If the OP has a retail copy, then there's no issue at all; he can use the license up to three times (IIRC).

But all of the above sort of speaks to my point: the OP's already bought a new, discrete graphics' card (the 7850). If he were also to buy a new Intel motherboard and an i5 3570k (and presumably an aftermarket cooler to facilitate overclocking it), then he'll have essentially replaced his entire computer. At that point, it makes very little sense to just throw out the Trinity APU + motherboard; it's more valuable in a whole system. And the OP will have already bought most of a whole second system.

So my advice to the OP, since his Trinity system is fairly new, is either to suffer through it for another 2-3 years and replace the whole thing then, or to remove the HD 7850 from the Trinity system and use it as the first piece in a whole new Intel build -- either selling the Trinity box whole on ebay or using it himself as a supplemental PC, a file server or whatever.

And to answer your PM, J-Cup -- no, you can't install an FX 8350 on an FM2 motherboard. You'd need an AM3+ motherboard, which would leave you in the same position described above.

You could upgrade to the fastest available FM2 CPU, but I'm not sure the performance difference'd be worthwhile. http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/311/AMD_A10-Series_A10...
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May 25, 2013 9:10:58 PM

thor220 said:
J-Cup said:
thor220 said:
what resolution are you running the game at?


1024x768 and would the A10 5800K be a good alternative since the i5 wont work with my MoBo? I think it will work because they are both trinity processors right?


You would only get about 10% more speed with that processor. You should try reducing CPU dependent options in the game. For example shadows and ambient occlusion(if it has this).


Okay, that helped a little bit but if the A10 is the highest CPU I can get with my mobo I think I will get that one. I dont really want to go through the hassle of re installing my OP and dont really have the money for one right now
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May 25, 2013 9:17:46 PM

You could always resell the A8, it's very popular for home media centers.
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May 25, 2013 9:51:23 PM

thor220 said:
You could always resell the A8, it's very popular for home media centers.


Yes, if J is determined to buy an a10, then he really should try to sell the a8 for as much as he possibly can; otherwise he's paying ~$130 for like a 10% increase in CPU performance in games.

That's not a good value no matter how you slice it. I maintain that J would be better off either foregoing the CPU upgrade entirely, or by selling his system whole (minus the 7850), and rebuilding around the HD 7850.
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May 28, 2013 4:52:36 PM

Fulgurant said:
thor220 said:
You could always resell the A8, it's very popular for home media centers.


Yes, if J is determined to buy an a10, then he really should try to sell the a8 for as much as he possibly can; otherwise he's paying ~$130 for like a 10% increase in CPU performance in games.

That's not a good value no matter how you slice it. I maintain that J would be better off either foregoing the CPU upgrade entirely, or by selling his system whole (minus the 7850), and rebuilding around the HD 7850.

So wouldnt it be cheaper to sell my MoBo and A8 and using the money + a bit more to get the i5 and new socket?
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May 28, 2013 5:04:57 PM

J-Cup said:
Fulgurant said:
thor220 said:
You could always resell the A8, it's very popular for home media centers.


Yes, if J is determined to buy an a10, then he really should try to sell the a8 for as much as he possibly can; otherwise he's paying ~$130 for like a 10% increase in CPU performance in games.

That's not a good value no matter how you slice it. I maintain that J would be better off either foregoing the CPU upgrade entirely, or by selling his system whole (minus the 7850), and rebuilding around the HD 7850.

So wouldnt it be cheaper to sell my MoBo and A8 and using the money + a bit more to get the i5 and new socket?


In the long run, yes. You would have a much better cpu and it would last much longer before another upgrade is due, not to mention the increased performance. But if you don't have the money on hand you would have to wait till your old parts sell.
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May 28, 2013 5:16:08 PM

thor220 said:
J-Cup said:
Fulgurant said:
thor220 said:
You could always resell the A8, it's very popular for home media centers.


Yes, if J is determined to buy an a10, then he really should try to sell the a8 for as much as he possibly can; otherwise he's paying ~$130 for like a 10% increase in CPU performance in games.

That's not a good value no matter how you slice it. I maintain that J would be better off either foregoing the CPU upgrade entirely, or by selling his system whole (minus the 7850), and rebuilding around the HD 7850.

So wouldnt it be cheaper to sell my MoBo and A8 and using the money + a bit more to get the i5 and new socket?


In the long run, yes. You would have a much better cpu and it would last much longer before another upgrade is due, not to mention the increased performance. But if you don't have the money on hand you would have to wait till your old parts sell.


So is this lag I get in Planetside 2 purely my CPU? I get it only in intense areas other than that its smooth as silk or do you suggest a new GPU. I did a lot of research before buying the 7850 and it seemed like ppl were getting playable FPS (in my opinion) on all my favorite games. Would a new CPU and mobo solve the random chops in some games and the lag in PS2 (i just got BF3 and it runs smooth on ultra settings)
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May 28, 2013 6:12:07 PM

J-Cup said:
thor220 said:
J-Cup said:
Fulgurant said:
thor220 said:
You could always resell the A8, it's very popular for home media centers.


Yes, if J is determined to buy an a10, then he really should try to sell the a8 for as much as he possibly can; otherwise he's paying ~$130 for like a 10% increase in CPU performance in games.

That's not a good value no matter how you slice it. I maintain that J would be better off either foregoing the CPU upgrade entirely, or by selling his system whole (minus the 7850), and rebuilding around the HD 7850.

So wouldnt it be cheaper to sell my MoBo and A8 and using the money + a bit more to get the i5 and new socket?


In the long run, yes. You would have a much better cpu and it would last much longer before another upgrade is due, not to mention the increased performance. But if you don't have the money on hand you would have to wait till your old parts sell.


So is this lag I get in Planetside 2 purely my CPU? I get it only in intense areas other than that its smooth as silk or do you suggest a new GPU. I did a lot of research before buying the 7850 and it seemed like ppl were getting playable FPS (in my opinion) on all my favorite games. Would a new CPU and mobo solve the random chops in some games and the lag in PS2 (i just got BF3 and it runs smooth on ultra settings)


Most probably yes. When you notice choppiness in heavily-populated areas of multiplayer games, the CPU is generally the problem, or if you prefer, the bottleneck. It's also possible that the server that hosts the game struggles in those areas, but your CPU is the first thing I'd check.

That isn't to say that a new CPU (in this case, the i5 3570k) would solve all of the problem; some games can bring even top-end CPUs to their knees in heavily populated multi-player scenes. In SWTOR, for example, the game was optimized so poorly for heavily populated areas that the developers ended up (more or less) scrapping open-world PvP altogether.

I have no personal experience with, or really even any useful knowledge about, Planetside 2. I can't guarantee you that any particular upgrade of your rig would give you the experience that you desire in that game. But if you really really love Planetside 2, then a CPU upgrade is probably worth pursuing. In your case, unfortunately, a worthwhile CPU upgrade also necessitates a change of platform. A change of platform may necessitate a new Windows license, too.
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May 28, 2013 7:18:22 PM

Just as Fulgurant said, multiplayer games take allot of cpu power. Another thing to note is that if you have an older hard drive, that can cause issues on allot of machines as well.
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May 28, 2013 8:38:10 PM

Fulgurant said:
J-Cup said:
thor220 said:
J-Cup said:
Fulgurant said:
thor220 said:
You could always resell the A8, it's very popular for home media centers.


Yes, if J is determined to buy an a10, then he really should try to sell the a8 for as much as he possibly can; otherwise he's paying ~$130 for like a 10% increase in CPU performance in games.

That's not a good value no matter how you slice it. I maintain that J would be better off either foregoing the CPU upgrade entirely, or by selling his system whole (minus the 7850), and rebuilding around the HD 7850.

So wouldnt it be cheaper to sell my MoBo and A8 and using the money + a bit more to get the i5 and new socket?


In the long run, yes. You would have a much better cpu and it would last much longer before another upgrade is due, not to mention the increased performance. But if you don't have the money on hand you would have to wait till your old parts sell.


So is this lag I get in Planetside 2 purely my CPU? I get it only in intense areas other than that its smooth as silk or do you suggest a new GPU. I did a lot of research before buying the 7850 and it seemed like ppl were getting playable FPS (in my opinion) on all my favorite games. Would a new CPU and mobo solve the random chops in some games and the lag in PS2 (i just got BF3 and it runs smooth on ultra settings)


Most probably yes. When you notice choppiness in heavily-populated areas of multiplayer games, the CPU is generally the problem, or if you prefer, the bottleneck. It's also possible that the server that hosts the game struggles in those areas, but your CPU is the first thing I'd check.

That isn't to say that a new CPU (in this case, the i5 3570k) would solve all of the problem; some games can bring even top-end CPUs to their knees in heavily populated multi-player scenes. In SWTOR, for example, the game was optimized so poorly for heavily populated areas that the developers ended up (more or less) scrapping open-world PvP altogether.

I have no personal experience with, or really even any useful knowledge about, Planetside 2. I can't guarantee you that any particular upgrade of your rig would give you the experience that you desire in that game. But if you really really love Planetside 2, then a CPU upgrade is probably worth pursuing. In your case, unfortunately, a worthwhile CPU upgrade also necessitates a change of platform. A change of platform may necessitate a new Windows license, too.


I got my PC stock and have been upgrading it, it came with Windows 8 already installed, if I call customer support would they be able to transfer the licence?
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May 28, 2013 8:41:16 PM

J-Cup said:

I got my PC stock and have been upgrading it, it came with Windows 8 already installed, if I call customer support would they be able to transfer the licence?


Possibly. It is a fairly new computer; Microsoft's been known to throw a bone to people who had to swap out a failed motherboard on a newish build.

I'm not sure I'd bet on it, though. Just wanted to give you fair warning.
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May 28, 2013 10:13:32 PM

Fulgurant said:
J-Cup said:

I got my PC stock and have been upgrading it, it came with Windows 8 already installed, if I call customer support would they be able to transfer the licence?


Possibly. It is a fairly new computer; Microsoft's been known to throw a bone to people who had to swap out a failed motherboard on a newish build.

I'm not sure I'd bet on it, though. Just wanted to give you fair warning.


Ok, well I think Im gonna go with the new mobo and get the i5 3570K once I get the money, but Im not entirely sure on what mobo to get will any of those recently listed work for it? I am looking for the cheapest one.
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May 29, 2013 12:50:32 AM

J-Cup said:
Fulgurant said:
J-Cup said:

I got my PC stock and have been upgrading it, it came with Windows 8 already installed, if I call customer support would they be able to transfer the licence?


Possibly. It is a fairly new computer; Microsoft's been known to throw a bone to people who had to swap out a failed motherboard on a newish build.

I'm not sure I'd bet on it, though. Just wanted to give you fair warning.


Ok, well I think Im gonna go with the new mobo and get the i5 3570K once I get the money, but Im not entirely sure on what mobo to get will any of those recently listed work for it? I am looking for the cheapest one.




Good mobo to get with the i5 3570k would be the asrock extreme4 z77, costs around 100 to 160
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