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Is my AMD FX-8120 (Standard clocks) bottlnecking my performance?

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May 25, 2013 11:25:32 PM

I've noticed major FPS issues while playing a game called Tera. I've been on EME's forums looking for answers but all solutions I've been given haven't helped me at all, so I'm thinking it's a hardware issue, namely, my CPU. I should be getting 30-40 FPS (according to other players) but I'm usually averaging around 23 in unpopulated areas and tanking to the low teens and even single digits in populated areas. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

My specs:
AMD FX-8120
EVGA GTX 650 1GB
8GB DDR3 RAM
500GB HDD
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May 25, 2013 11:36:48 PM

gtx 650 is the lowest kepler nvidia card
if you want decent performance, go with radeon 7870 or gtx 660 :) 

just my 2 cents
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May 25, 2013 11:45:34 PM

Hi
It`s very easy to see where is you bottleneck.
Use this guide to display on screen in 3D Game mode you CPU & GPU load : http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/655138-how-mo...
When you do that you gonna see in game - in the left corner for example - info that will help you to see which one goes to 100% and keeps it there
If you see you GPU on 100% then is you GPU not CPU
If you see you CPU on 100% then there you go you`r right.
Good luck !
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May 26, 2013 11:44:39 AM

Nikolay Savov said:
Hi
It`s very easy to see where is you bottleneck.
Use this guide to display on screen in 3D Game mode you CPU & GPU load : http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/655138-how-mo...
When you do that you gonna see in game - in the left corner for example - info that will help you to see which one goes to 100% and keeps it there
If you see you GPU on 100% then is you GPU not CPU
If you see you CPU on 100% then there you go you`r right.
Good luck !


My GPU is hitting 100% so it's definitely the issue! I'm running MSI Kombustor and OC'ng right now. Currently I'm at 1188 Mhz Core and 2670 Mhz MEM. My average FPS according to this is 48, and minimum of 37 and maximum of 54. I'm gonna run Tera now to see if anything has changed. Thanks for the tip!
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May 26, 2013 11:51:52 AM

So as of right now in fields fighting large monsters, I'm averaging about 36 FPS. I did see it drop to 23 at one point, but past that it hasn't dipped down much at all, which is a substantial improvement! Especially seeing as last time I was playing and fighting these monsters, I was hitting about 23 FPS max. I did lower my graphical quality some though. About to test in a populated city.
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May 26, 2013 12:00:02 PM

So tested in the most populated city, and turned my video settings back up to max. The results were atrocious. FPS dropped to low teens, though not single digits, still practically unplayable. After adjusting my video settings yet again (Lowering viewable distances and removing many shadowing effects), I fluctuate between 37 and 13 fps, typically averaging around 27. So a bit of an improvement. Definitely noticeable, but still not to my liking. It seems that I simply need to upgrade my GPU then? This was my first build so I went into it rather uneducated, but am learning a lot from all this, so all responses are valued and appreciated! :) 
I'm thinking of getting a GTX 660 2GB
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May 26, 2013 12:05:00 PM

gtx 660 or radeon 7870 :)  whichever you like the most
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May 27, 2013 12:16:19 AM

RykerSylvarant said:
Nikolay Savov said:
Hi
It`s very easy to see where is you bottleneck.
Use this guide to display on screen in 3D Game mode you CPU & GPU load : http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/655138-how-mo...
When you do that you gonna see in game - in the left corner for example - info that will help you to see which one goes to 100% and keeps it there
If you see you GPU on 100% then is you GPU not CPU
If you see you CPU on 100% then there you go you`r right.
Good luck !


My GPU is hitting 100% so it's definitely the issue! I'm running MSI Kombustor and OC'ng right now. Currently I'm at 1188 Mhz Core and 2670 Mhz MEM. My average FPS according to this is 48, and minimum of 37 and maximum of 54. I'm gonna run Tera now to see if anything has changed. Thanks for the tip!


That`s what i`v tough GPU is bottle your performance.
OC you GPU will not improve the picture so much - you can have some 10-20 % improvement but 50 % or more is not possible so better not ...
I agree that upgrading to NV 660 , 670 or ATI 7850 , 7870 you be fine what ever you pic.
Consider you PSU and extra 6 or 8 pin connectors you may need.
You may also look how this game is optimised for the GPU you choose - look in the NV and ATI for issues reported with you game - this will help you with the choosing right.

Another tip :
if you CPU is closer to 100% also consider upgrade CPU - you did`t tell where you CPU load % goes
if you go for GPU upgrade you may hit 100% of you CPU load in that case
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June 6, 2013 3:26:32 PM

I think there is a combination of things going on here that could lead to a bottleneck. A higher amount of VRAM is almost a scheme these days; most games divert most of their memory needs to RAM or a pagefile, depending on how often they are accessed during game play. Increasing the amount of VRAM will simply not do much good. What you could do is go through a tutorial on how to optimize nvidia control panel. There are a lot of aliasing effects that can cause a bottleneck in performance. Also, I truly cannot see a difference at 1080i resolution between some settings. You can tone down some things that simply just are not important; shadows for instance. Also, your HDD may be contributing to the bottleneck. If it is a slower HDD, then the pagefile mentioned above may be slowing down read/write times. 8 gb of RAM, though a lot, can get eaten up fast if you have other programs running in the background while gaming, forcing windows to use the pagefile.
Obviously, an SSD is an expensive upgrade, but after doing some tweaking myself, I have an Intel 520 series SSD and a GTX 560 SE, which is not a super high end card in the grand scheme of things, but I can play Battlefield 3 on high settings with pretty decent FPS, certainly in the mid 20's range consistently.
Just my two cents.
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June 7, 2013 3:27:34 AM

aigram said:
I think there is a combination of things going on here that could lead to a bottleneck. A higher amount of VRAM is almost a scheme these days; most games divert most of their memory needs to RAM or a pagefile, depending on how often they are accessed during game play. Increasing the amount of VRAM will simply not do much good. What you could do is go through a tutorial on how to optimize nvidia control panel. There are a lot of aliasing effects that can cause a bottleneck in performance. Also, I truly cannot see a difference at 1080i resolution between some settings. You can tone down some things that simply just are not important; shadows for instance. Also, your HDD may be contributing to the bottleneck. If it is a slower HDD, then the pagefile mentioned above may be slowing down read/write times. 8 gb of RAM, though a lot, can get eaten up fast if you have other programs running in the background while gaming, forcing windows to use the pagefile.
Obviously, an SSD is an expensive upgrade, but after doing some tweaking myself, I have an Intel 520 series SSD and a GTX 560 SE, which is not a super high end card in the grand scheme of things, but I can play Battlefield 3 on high settings with pretty decent FPS, certainly in the mid 20's range consistently.
Just my two cents.


I`m 100% agree speaking of MMORPG gaming and SSD is the Rocket you UP in the sky :) 
- ultra fast level load
- ultra fast and agile performance
But i still get Server LAG :) 
SO you can`t beat all problems but SSD for MMORPG is what i advise !

And about the case here - if he is hitting HDD bottleneck he would`t get lower FPS !
If you hit this problem you have HIGH FPS - 40 -50 - 60 - but you screen LAG`S coz you HDD is 100%
So this is simple now :
RykerSylvarant - please post the screen when you have the WORST FPS with CPU LOAD ; GPU LOAD ; HDD LOAD if you can !

- you may need not only GPU upgrade .....
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