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HEADING CHANGE : Is this a good system build ? (NOT FOR MUCH GAMING) (SCROLL TO THE END OF THE PAGE)

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May 26, 2013 2:00:05 AM

Hello,
I have a Dell Vostro 1015 with Intel Celeron 900 @ 2.2GHz w/ 1GB DDR II RAM w/ 160Gb HDD w/ Integrated Graphics.
I want to boost its Performance by :
1. Upgrading its Processor
2. Making an External Graphics Adapter : http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/grap...

3. Upgrade its RAM to 4GB

So, This will be a great boost if successful.
To Prevent much bottlenecks and improve CPU Performance, I m upgrading the Processor.
According to Dell Service Manual, This Laptop can Support Core 2 Duo Processors.
I have selected three :
http://ark.intel.com/products/37006/Intel-Core2-Duo-Pro...

http://ark.intel.com/products/42599/Intel-Core2-Duo-Pro...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001BN32OG/ref=ox_sc_a...

Which one of the THREE is good to go ? THEY Support PGA478 Socket.

For making Graphics Adapter :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00966IREK/ref=ox_sc_a...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008I71HXQ/ref=ox_sc_a...


For Upgrading RAM :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013441J8/ref=ox_sc_a...


I have an Express card Slot on my Laptop.
I don't mind GFX reduced speed.
I think I can also make the adapter through PM4H : replacing the WLAN ?


So, What do you think, will this be a good Upgrade w/ not much bottlenecks ?
What are your Opinions ?
Any Help would be appreciated................

******I WILL NOT BUY A NEW COMPUTER*******

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May 26, 2013 2:06:54 AM

Buy a new computer.
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May 26, 2013 2:48:01 AM

You won't be able to add them, unless the computer has a new BIOS to support 45nm chips. Which I doubt.

Seriously, for the $100 price of the ePCIe card, plus the GPU, PSU, and the CPU, you'd be better off just getting an APU, MB, RAM, PSU, and case.
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May 26, 2013 3:10:10 AM

Don't take tension of the BIOS.
The Upgrade of Processor will be given to the professionals who are my friends. They will do dis.
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May 26, 2013 3:19:31 AM

No, the MB simply will not accept the new CPU unless Dell has written a new BIOS to see them.
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May 26, 2013 3:29:28 AM

OK , As Someone Somewhere said, I have made the list for 361.94 dollars from newegg.com.
Here it is :
- ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner -- $17.99
- Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive -- $64.99
- ASRock FM2A75M-DGS FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard -- $54.99
- RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply -- $49.99
- CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model -- $43.99
- AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD ... -- $129.99

So, Is this a good system build ?
My Monitor Resolution is currently 1024 x 768 CRT Monitor. Will be upgrading this to 1366 x768 Resolution Monitor later.
My Games run at resolution of 1024 x 768
Can My Most Favorite Game (Rail Works 4 Train Simulator 2013) run on this system at mid- High Settings ?????
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May 26, 2013 3:33:39 AM

Drop the PSU, and get anything 450W+ from my sig. Case might help.

That looks a little overpriced for the RAM - where are you?
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May 26, 2013 3:36:45 AM

Don't take tension for those things. Its my headache.
Just tell me, can I max out games on this system.
AND Of course, Is this system better than my current laptop ?
AND, Will that CPU give me good performance without lacks. I am a student so I don't need much performance but still, is it good ?
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May 26, 2013 3:42:43 AM

Yes, that system is pretty good. You won't be able to max out everything, but some older stuff yes. Way better than your laptop.

Main thing is that I really wouldn't use that PSU. Raidmax PSUs have a reputation for being badly designed, made, and for being fire hazards.

Some of those components appear more expensive than I would expect them to be in the US, so let me see if I can find them cheaper. What country are you in?
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May 26, 2013 3:48:41 AM

I am india, and I would not buy the parts at any costs from here because the are very much overpriced.
Well, Should I buy HD6670 to max out games at that resolution ?
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May 26, 2013 3:53:59 AM

See if you can fit a 7750 with a cheap AM3 Phenom and board in.
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May 26, 2013 10:40:23 PM

So I tried to afford my self to the Radeon HD 7750 due to help of PC Part Picker only./-
Here's the edited configuration :
Low Budget GOOD Gaming + Home Desktop PC:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10lrF
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10lrF/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10lrF/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.59 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $400.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 01:33 EDT-0400)

This is approximately : Rs.22,256. Affordable by me.-------------
So, How's this system looking now ?
Is it good to go now ?
Can it now play my favorite game at HIGH with resolution of 1024 by 768 ??
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May 27, 2013 12:30:03 AM

Here's one edited which is $5 less than the Previous Configuration but I think it will give more performance :
Low Budget GOOD Gaming + Home Desktop PC:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10mH2
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10mH2/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10mH2/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.59 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $395.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 03:27 EDT-0400)

What do you think about it ?
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May 27, 2013 12:33:03 AM

The FX build is better, but a few things: RAM is too pricey - no substantial difference between DDR3-1600 and -1866.

See if you can fit a cheap 650Ti.

Do you need a PSU or case?
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May 27, 2013 1:41:47 AM

See this now : :fou:  I have fitted the 650 ti ;) 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10nbn
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10nbn/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10nbn/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.59 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($89.35 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $395.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 04:39 EDT-0400)

For just he same price as before. Just deducted the HDD to 500GB as I thought that I can not even consume my laptop's 160gb so 1 tb is a far talk.......
So, How's this build now ?
Is it OK.????

: NO I DO NOT NEED PSU AND CASE AND MONITOR ALSO. I HAVE THEM FROM BEFORE.
WILL THAT GFX CARD WORK WITHOUT A PSU CABLE ? I ALREADY HAVE A 350 WATT POWER SUPPLY.
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May 27, 2013 1:53:15 AM

No, it needs a 6-pin PCIe cable.

I'd be very wary of using an old PSU; crap ones can be very dangerous.
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May 27, 2013 2:17:06 AM

Yes, you could use that adapter. But not all PSUs can handle rated output - so what model is yours?

Look at the link in my sig for why you don't use an el-cheapo PSU.
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May 27, 2013 2:27:20 AM

I don't know the exact model of the power supply. But there's a sticker on it QC PASS.
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May 27, 2013 2:33:08 AM

Read the big label, or post a photo.

QC is Quality Control. It means nothing other than it passed whatever testing they did, likely very little.
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May 27, 2013 2:42:57 AM

Then drop the PSU and please suggest a good PSU.
But mind that the case does not fit the modern PSU's
It fits the PSU looking similar to this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
My PSU has the same design as the above one.
The only difference is, My PSU also has an output to connect my CRT Monitor which I will be using.
So, What to do now ?
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May 27, 2013 3:29:01 AM

So, There you go. Here comes the Final Configuration w/ 450Watt Power Supply :
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10nNQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10nNQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10nNQ/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.59 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($89.35 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $407.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 06:22 EDT-0400)

I do not need a ODD as I will be taking it out from my dead Laptop and use it on my PC.
I doubt Question : Can I mount my new power supply other that the place where it is usually mounted on my case ????
I don't think that the PSU will fit in my cabinet. Can you give the above PSU's dimensions ?

So, Should I finalize this build nowhere ?????
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May 27, 2013 3:32:50 AM

All PSUs use a standard size, except for some slim ones that use TFX and a few other standards. Normal is ATX.

What case are you using?

Also, I suggest a different PSU - look for the brands in my sig.

RAM too pricey - no advantage over DDR3-1600.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that laptop ODDs use different mounts and connectors to desktop ones, and yours is likely PATA not SATA. You can get adapters, but especially if you have to get a PATA>SATA converter, a new ODD will likely be cheaper.
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May 27, 2013 8:00:49 AM

So, There you go. I Increased my budget to some extent and now getting a good System :
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10pQN
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10pQN/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/10pQN/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($60.59 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($89.35 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $452.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-27 10:53 EDT-0400)

EDIT : Monitor Resolution : 1024 by 768 @ Gaming. Can I play games at their recommended system requirements ?
I know that's a good PC. What's your suggestion ?
The only Doubt I have is: I have an old Computer Cabinet. It has an AT Power Supply that does not have enough connecters. So, I am buying a new power supply as mentioned above. I'll try to mount the PSU in the Case but if it does not fits, Can I place it at the bottom beneath the Motherboard at right side ???? I have there enough space for it.
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