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[MS224]

Thanks for your responses.

 

[COLGeek]

There is no validity to this claim. None.

Changing your internal IP address on your local network will do nothing. Changing your external IP address means connecting to a completely different network. So unless you are changing ISPs, that isn't going to happen.

Good luck!

 

[MS224]

There is no validity to this claim. None.

Changing your internal IP address on your local network will do nothing. Changing your external IP address means connecting to a completely different network. So unless you are changing ISPs, that isn't going to happen.

Good luck!

Thank you for your quick response. This is exactly what I thought, but I don't see how he would be able to gain priority over me in the game server that I mentioned. Maybe there's a way to make the game server/your browser think you have a certain IP when you actually don't (without a VPN or proxy)? The server determines priority by assigning it to people who have IP addresses with their 3rd group divisible by 8. If two different IP addresses both meet that requirement then the 4th number determines priority (the lower, the better). I have used a .1 IP before (using a proxy) and he has somehow beaten it and has received priority over everyone else that I have seen. I guess I might be trying to figure out something that is impossible, but I just don't know how he has successfully obtained a .0 IP.

 

[bill001g]

Have to concur with the above post. Many times you can't even change the IP at all much less to one owned by another ISP.

The whole internet is based on the principle that you cannot do what you propose. All ISP are only allowed to tell other ISP (ie advertise routes) for IP blocks they own or one of their customers own. So even if you could magically change your IP on your equipment and somehow trick your ISP into taking data packets with a forged address it still will not work. The routes that are advertised to peer ISP as being originated from that ISP are manually configured. So you may be able to send packets with a forged address but return traffic will come back. Most large routers have a feature ISP use that will drop any data that comes in that will never be returned.

 

[ittimjones]

you CANNOT change the ISP's assigned IP to anything you want. That is NOT possible, unless you own the ISP. You can change your internal IP to whatever you want by setting up the settings in ur router or host machine.

For instance, you can make ur internal network's IP 192.168.8.0
That would be the Network IP, which is unusable (unless you make the network a PTP network with a /31 subnet or a network that is larger than /24) and the 1st usable IP would be 192.168.8.1 (which is typically set as the default gateway/router but doesn't have to be)

 

[ddpruitt]

Hello TomsHardware Community,

I've been trying to figure out the answer to this question for a long time now and I've come to the point where I no longer know what else to try. I'm hoping someone out there has an answer for me. I am trying to obtain an IP address with its 3rd group divisible by 8 and its last number as .0 (i.e. 58.34.200.0). I am 99.9% sure that there is a way to do this as I have evidence of somebody that I know successfully doing this. Stopping short of actually telling me, he has given me some hints. He claims:

- Your IP address can be changed to (nearly) whatever you want, immediately.
- You are guaranteed a .0 (4th number), or whatever number you want to choose. It is completely up to you.
- There are no downloads needed, no VPNs, and no proxies. It only uses your internet connection, nothing else.
- It doesn't matter if your IP is static or dynamic, it will work for either.

Here's a screenshot with his IP before changing it:

http://i.imgur.com/Eprl6QF.png

Here's a picture with his IP after changing it:

http://i.imgur.com/4Fwlpcy.png

As you can see, it looks as though the hostname changes from including the ISP to simply the IP address itself.

I am almost completely certain of the validity of what he's telling me because he has proven to me, through a game server, that he gets priority over me when my IP is a .1 (4th number) with its 3rd group also divisible by 8. In the game server that would be impossible unless he has a .0 IP or logged in before I did, which he did not. I've spent hours upon hours trying to figure this out to no avail. If anyone out there knows how to successfully do this and is willing to explain it to me I would be eternally grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Your entire problem is based on a faulty premise. No IP address is given priority over another IP address unless it's been set up that way on a server. This would break the internet if all the low addresses had priority. If you want traffic to have priority then it needs to be set up that way based in IP address or hostname if the server/router supports it. This way traffic over on a certain port or from a certain host is prioritized over other traffic. Unfortunately few consumer devices fully support it.

 

[MS224]

Hello TomsHardware Community,

I've been trying to figure out the answer to this question for a long time now and I've come to the point where I no longer know what else to try. I'm hoping someone out there has an answer for me. I am trying to obtain an IP address with its 3rd group divisible by 8 and its last number as .0 (i.e. 58.34.200.0). I am 99.9% sure that there is a way to do this as I have evidence of somebody that I know successfully doing this. Stopping short of actually telling me, he has given me some hints. He claims:

- Your IP address can be changed to (nearly) whatever you want, immediately.
- You are guaranteed a .0 (4th number), or whatever number you want to choose. It is completely up to you.
- There are no downloads needed, no VPNs, and no proxies. It only uses your internet connection, nothing else.
- It doesn't matter if your IP is static or dynamic, it will work for either.

Here's a screenshot with his IP before changing it:

http://i.imgur.com/Eprl6QF.png

Here's a picture with his IP after changing it:

http://i.imgur.com/4Fwlpcy.png

As you can see, it looks as though the hostname changes from including the ISP to simply the IP address itself.

I am almost completely certain of the validity of what he's telling me because he has proven to me, through a game server, that he gets priority over me when my IP is a .1 (4th number) with its 3rd group also divisible by 8. In the game server that would be impossible unless he has a .0 IP or logged in before I did, which he did not. I've spent hours upon hours trying to figure this out to no avail. If anyone out there knows how to successfully do this and is willing to explain it to me I would be eternally grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Your entire problem is based on a faulty premise. No IP address is given priority over another IP address unless it's been set up that way on a server. This would break the internet if all the low addresses had priority. If you want traffic to have priority then it needs to be set up that way based in IP address or hostname if the server/router supports it. Unfortunately few support fully support it.

The server that I tested this on gives priority to players in that manner, and it's been proven, that's why I have been at a loss for how he obtained a .0 IP (he beat my .1 despite signing on after me). The best I have been able to obtain is a .1. I really appreciate all your guys' help though... he must be doing something else to be getting priority then. I'm just not sure what it is.

 

[ddpruitt]

The server that I tested this on gives priority to players in that manner, and it's been proven, that's why I have been at a loss for how he obtained a .0 IP (he beat my .1 despite signing on after me). The best I have been able to obtain is a .1. I really appreciate all your guys' help though... he must be doing something else to be getting priority then. I'm just not sure what it is.

I would use another server in that case. If a server is giving priority to lower IPs I would have serious issues using it. What kind of server is this?

 

[COLGeek]

Hello TomsHardware Community,

I've been trying to figure out the answer to this question for a long time now and I've come to the point where I no longer know what else to try. I'm hoping someone out there has an answer for me. I am trying to obtain an IP address with its 3rd group divisible by 8 and its last number as .0 (i.e. 58.34.200.0). I am 99.9% sure that there is a way to do this as I have evidence of somebody that I know successfully doing this. Stopping short of actually telling me, he has given me some hints. He claims:

- Your IP address can be changed to (nearly) whatever you want, immediately.
- You are guaranteed a .0 (4th number), or whatever number you want to choose. It is completely up to you.
- There are no downloads needed, no VPNs, and no proxies. It only uses your internet connection, nothing else.
- It doesn't matter if your IP is static or dynamic, it will work for either.

Here's a screenshot with his IP before changing it:

http://i.imgur.com/Eprl6QF.png

Here's a picture with his IP after changing it:

http://i.imgur.com/4Fwlpcy.png

As you can see, it looks as though the hostname changes from including the ISP to simply the IP address itself.

I am almost completely certain of the validity of what he's telling me because he has proven to me, through a game server, that he gets priority over me when my IP is a .1 (4th number) with its 3rd group also divisible by 8. In the game server that would be impossible unless he has a .0 IP or logged in before I did, which he did not. I've spent hours upon hours trying to figure this out to no avail. If anyone out there knows how to successfully do this and is willing to explain it to me I would be eternally grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Your entire problem is based on a faulty premise. No IP address is given priority over another IP address unless it's been set up that way on a server. This would break the internet if all the low addresses had priority. If you want traffic to have priority then it needs to be set up that way based in IP address or hostname if the server/router supports it. Unfortunately few support fully support it.

The server that I tested this on gives priority to players in that manner, and it's been proven, that's why I have been at a loss for how he obtained a .0 IP (he beat my .1 despite signing on after me). The best I have been able to obtain is a .1. I really appreciate all your guys' help though... he must be doing something else to be getting priority then. I'm just not sure what it is.

For the sake of argument, how has this theory of IP address prioritization been proven?

 

[MS224]

It is a game server, and it is widely known that this is how the server gives priority to players. I've tested it myself and thousands of other players are also aware of the way the prioritization system works. It's a 2007 version of the game that was just recently released with all of the same features that it had in 2007. For example, I can log into the game with a 109.222.152.1 IP and I will receive priority over someone with a 69.45.24.2 IP, or if it was 69.45.24.1 then whoever logged in to the server first will be given priority if they perform an action at the exact same time. For obvious reasons, players compete to try to obtain the best priority they can, and this person I've spoken to seems to have the best IP I've come across. He has been able to obtain a .0 IP somehow, which I had thought was impossible.

I also noticed that his hostname is the same as his IP address when he changes it... is there any way to do this?

 

[COLGeek]

Sorry, but this is simply not possible. The TCP/IP protocols simply don't work like that.

I suppose a poorly developed game server could do something screwy with IP addresses. If so, this would be a server/game issue and not a networking issue.

As already pointed out, unless you change your ISP (and therefor the block of IP addresses assigned to the ISP) there is no way to do this.

 

[COLGeek]

Also, what game are we talking about here?

 

[MS224]

Alright, thanks once again COLGeek for taking the time to answer my seemingly stupid question lol

& it's RuneScape. The main game doesn't give priority in this manner, but the old 2007 servers were just recently released due to popular demand, and there's a part of the game that depends a lot on prioritization, so players try to get the best IP addresses possible in order to beat others. It's also potentially very profitable (in-game and in real life) if you can get priority over everyone else, which a .0 IP would achieve. I have found success using a .1 IP, but there are some people who are aware of the method to obtain it. This guy I've been talking about is well-known for beating everybody's IP no matter what, and he's made the claims I stated earlier.

 

[COLGeek]

You would be better off seeking Bigfoot, with more likelihood of success, than pursuing this myth. Claims and deeds (and understanding how IP protocols work) are completely different things.

Any claims here are anecdotal, at best.