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May 28, 2013 4:10:37 PM

I am making a custom gaming/workstation rig this summer. I do a lot of high end gaming and digital graphics such as 3d modeling with Autodesk software. I care a lot about speed and stability. I will not be doing any overclocking as I don't really see any benefit of doing so. Here are the following ram kits I am looking at:

G.Skill Ripjaws X 1600 (2x8GB):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231489

G.Skill Ripjaws X 1866 (2x8GB):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231528

G.Skill Ares Series 1600 (2x8GB):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231606

I am also kinda picky with the color as I am going with a black and red theme for my setup. Also I don't mind looking at other ram kits that are better than these. I only need 16GB.

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May 28, 2013 4:18:12 PM

I would get the Ares version since it's low profile and wouldn't have problems fitting under any coolers.

And any way we can convince you to overclock? it's literally $30 for a 25%+ increase in CPU performance.
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May 28, 2013 4:41:12 PM

what motherboard/processor?
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May 28, 2013 6:08:50 PM

swifty_morgan said:
what motherboard/processor?


I am planning on getting Asus Z87 motherboards (the black and red ones, ATX or Extended ATX; not sure yet). I am getting the 4770K Intel Haswell CPU that will be coming out next month.
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May 28, 2013 6:10:25 PM

killerhurtalot said:
I would get the Ares version since it's low profile and wouldn't have problems fitting under any coolers.

And any way we can convince you to overclock? it's literally $30 for a 25%+ increase in CPU performance.


Well I am afraid of overheating and un-stability. I don't want to do any water cooling as I don't have the money for that. I will be using Corsair H100i for the CPU though.
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May 28, 2013 6:28:35 PM

Oblivion2500 said:
killerhurtalot said:
I would get the Ares version since it's low profile and wouldn't have problems fitting under any coolers.

And any way we can convince you to overclock? it's literally $30 for a 25%+ increase in CPU performance.


Well I am afraid of overheating and un-stability. I don't want to do any water cooling as I don't have the money for that. I will be using Corsair H100i for the CPU though.


If you follow a guide and look at what other people has overclocked their CPU to with the same cooler there's no reason or way for you to overheat/damage or cause instability... even if it was unstable at the exact clocks someone else had, you can just overclock it a tiny bit less and that'll solve the instability...

With the H100i cooler, you'll be able to easily get to 4.6-4.7ghz overclock. (which is a 35%+ increase in clock and now they should give you 25-30% better performance)
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May 28, 2013 6:31:52 PM

killerhurtalot said:
Oblivion2500 said:
killerhurtalot said:
I would get the Ares version since it's low profile and wouldn't have problems fitting under any coolers.

And any way we can convince you to overclock? it's literally $30 for a 25%+ increase in CPU performance.


Well I am afraid of overheating and un-stability. I don't want to do any water cooling as I don't have the money for that. I will be using Corsair H100i for the CPU though.


If you follow a guide and look at what other people has overclocked their CPU to with the same cooler there's no reason or way for you to overheat/damage or cause instability... even if it was unstable at the exact clocks someone else had, you can just overclock it a tiny bit less and that'll solve the instability...

With the H100i cooler, you'll be able to easily get to 4.6-4.7ghz overclock. (which is a 35%+ increase in clock and now they should give you 25-30% better performance)


What about the memory/ram? Is it recommended? I will be over-clocking my CPU once I see a bunch of people getting stable clock speeds with the H100i and follow their instructions like you said.
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May 28, 2013 6:50:27 PM

Oblivion2500 said:
killerhurtalot said:
Oblivion2500 said:
killerhurtalot said:
I would get the Ares version since it's low profile and wouldn't have problems fitting under any coolers.

And any way we can convince you to overclock? it's literally $30 for a 25%+ increase in CPU performance.


Well I am afraid of overheating and un-stability. I don't want to do any water cooling as I don't have the money for that. I will be using Corsair H100i for the CPU though.


If you follow a guide and look at what other people has overclocked their CPU to with the same cooler there's no reason or way for you to overheat/damage or cause instability... even if it was unstable at the exact clocks someone else had, you can just overclock it a tiny bit less and that'll solve the instability...

With the H100i cooler, you'll be able to easily get to 4.6-4.7ghz overclock. (which is a 35%+ increase in clock and now they should give you 25-30% better performance)


What about the memory/ram? Is it recommended? I will be over-clocking my CPU once I see a bunch of people getting stable clock speeds with the H100i and follow their instructions like you said.


Ram overclock really won't improve the performance by that much... (unless you're that person who wants to squeeze every last bit out of the system)

What motherboard do you have?
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May 28, 2013 6:52:09 PM

I kinda like the gold ones. anyways, try and up the ram to 32gb. Geil Black Dragon look nice with the little red lights they have on them. very reliable for many years also.
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May 28, 2013 7:06:38 PM

killerhurtalot said:
Oblivion2500 said:
killerhurtalot said:
Oblivion2500 said:
killerhurtalot said:
I would get the Ares version since it's low profile and wouldn't have problems fitting under any coolers.

And any way we can convince you to overclock? it's literally $30 for a 25%+ increase in CPU performance.


Well I am afraid of overheating and un-stability. I don't want to do any water cooling as I don't have the money for that. I will be using Corsair H100i for the CPU though.


If you follow a guide and look at what other people has overclocked their CPU to with the same cooler there's no reason or way for you to overheat/damage or cause instability... even if it was unstable at the exact clocks someone else had, you can just overclock it a tiny bit less and that'll solve the instability...

With the H100i cooler, you'll be able to easily get to 4.6-4.7ghz overclock. (which is a 35%+ increase in clock and now they should give you 25-30% better performance)


What about the memory/ram? Is it recommended? I will be over-clocking my CPU once I see a bunch of people getting stable clock speeds with the H100i and follow their instructions like you said.


Ram overclock really won't improve the performance by that much... (unless you're that person who wants to squeeze every last bit out of the system)

What motherboard do you have?


If you look above as I said that I have not built this system rig yet and am thinking of getting Asus Z87 motherboards for Haswell processor.
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May 29, 2013 9:46:48 AM

Do not be confused with misconceptions. Instability during overclocking occurs when the user does not configure settings properly in BIOS/EFI; with G.Skill, we make sure the RAM is 100% stable in your computer. Overheating during overclocking occurs when insufficient cooling is used; with H100 installed properly, you should have no problem at all. Basic overclocking is very easy especially with Ivybridge, Haswell, and more recent designs. You can achieve very good results without worrying one bit. People run into issues when they don't know how to overclock, and they assume boosting voltages up alone can increase frequency/performance. While that is the basic idea, it needs to scale properly. Setting DRAM Voltage to 1.80V does not simply mean DDR3-3000 for DDR3-1600 RAM.

Anything "better" than DDR3-1600+ can be considered overclocking. So if you want to stick with basic RAM, DDR3-1600 CL7 is best, DDR3-1600 CL11 is standard, DDR3-1600 CL9 is what many builders use. For more performance oriented, you can look into DDR3-1866 or DDR3-2133, they will all work just fine with a Haswell platform since it can support DDR3-3000+. Purchase any frequency RAM with 32GB, and you will be very pleased with the result.

Let us know if you have any further questions or issues.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

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May 29, 2013 10:29:19 AM

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May 29, 2013 10:56:08 AM

gskill support said:
Do not be confused with misconceptions. Instability during overclocking occurs when the user does not configure settings properly in BIOS/EFI; with G.Skill, we make sure the RAM is 100% stable in your computer. Overheating during overclocking occurs when insufficient cooling is used; with H100 installed properly, you should have no problem at all. Basic overclocking is very easy especially with Ivybridge, Haswell, and more recent designs. You can achieve very good results without worrying one bit. People run into issues when they don't know how to overclock, and they assume boosting voltages up alone can increase frequency/performance. While that is the basic idea, it needs to scale properly. Setting DRAM Voltage to 1.80V does not simply mean DDR3-3000 for DDR3-1600 RAM.

Anything "better" than DDR3-1600+ can be considered overclocking. So if you want to stick with basic RAM, DDR3-1600 CL7 is best, DDR3-1600 CL11 is standard, DDR3-1600 CL9 is what many builders use. For more performance oriented, you can look into DDR3-1866 or DDR3-2133, they will all work just fine with a Haswell platform since it can support DDR3-3000+. Purchase any frequency RAM with 32GB, and you will be very pleased with the result.

Let us know if you have any further questions or issues.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT



So I am thinking the best choice is the 1866 Ripjaws X ram kit since I am focusing on performance. Just to make sure, the timing on the ram is 10-11-10-30. I don't know if that is good or not, but I know that less is better. I don't know what the last number means.
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May 29, 2013 11:11:27 AM

first you say you're not going to over clock but you buy core components that allow it greatly. now you want 1866............ hows about going for 2400/2800? and then maybe you can set the xmp profile in the BIOS and see what happens?
get some really good cooling for the processor.
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June 28, 2013 3:20:59 PM

Oblivion2500 said:
gskill support said:
Do not be confused with misconceptions. Instability during overclocking occurs when the user does not configure settings properly in BIOS/EFI; with G.Skill, we make sure the RAM is 100% stable in your computer. Overheating during overclocking occurs when insufficient cooling is used; with H100 installed properly, you should have no problem at all. Basic overclocking is very easy especially with Ivybridge, Haswell, and more recent designs. You can achieve very good results without worrying one bit. People run into issues when they don't know how to overclock, and they assume boosting voltages up alone can increase frequency/performance. While that is the basic idea, it needs to scale properly. Setting DRAM Voltage to 1.80V does not simply mean DDR3-3000 for DDR3-1600 RAM.

Anything "better" than DDR3-1600+ can be considered overclocking. So if you want to stick with basic RAM, DDR3-1600 CL7 is best, DDR3-1600 CL11 is standard, DDR3-1600 CL9 is what many builders use. For more performance oriented, you can look into DDR3-1866 or DDR3-2133, they will all work just fine with a Haswell platform since it can support DDR3-3000+. Purchase any frequency RAM with 32GB, and you will be very pleased with the result.

Let us know if you have any further questions or issues.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT



So I am thinking the best choice is the 1866 Ripjaws X ram kit since I am focusing on performance. Just to make sure, the timing on the ram is 10-11-10-30. I don't know if that is good or not, but I know that less is better. I don't know what the last number means.


That is a good memory kit, you should be pleased with the result.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT

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