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May 28, 2013 11:47:46 PM

Hello. Just looking to build a very basic gaming PC. Not looking for too many bells or whistles. I am currently playing Guild Wars 2 and am tired of playing at 3 FPS on my current laptop which is 4 years old. I just want decent performance, nothing superfluous. Here is my template:

Approximate Purchase Date: Hopefully end of June at the latest. Trying to aim for mid.

Budget Range: $400-$600 After Rebates; After Shipping

System Usage: Gaming, surfing internet, watching movies.

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, but I am glad to settle for a cheaper reliable alternative if you have one.

Location: San Antonio, Texas

Parts Preferences: No preference really. I trust you guys.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No?

Additional Comments: Again, just wanting to build a simple gaming PC to run MMO's like Guild Wars 2. I have this laptop to use for other needs. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

More about : 400 600 gaming build

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May 29, 2013 12:07:20 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($168.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($58.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $554.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-29 02:56 EDT-0400)


alternatively, for the CPU, there's the FX-6300 and/or you could get a 1GB 7770 or vanilla 650ti, to save up a bit more.




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May 29, 2013 4:05:51 PM

Woah, nice quick response. I am liking what I see. Thanks!

Anyone think they can beat that? :p 
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May 29, 2013 6:28:57 PM

note that the CPU matters in GW2. the benchmarks above are based on an SB-E i7, so expect a lower (but much more playable than 3fps) frame rate with a Phenom II x4 or an FX-6300.



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May 29, 2013 7:46:02 PM

Get the FX-6300, its AM3+ meaning its newer tech, plus the PII x4 is a Denab and cant support DDR3-1600 very well.

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($128.59 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $551.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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May 29, 2013 8:24:43 PM

mattius92 said:
Get the FX-6300, its AM3+ meaning its newer tech, plus the PII x4 is a Denab and cant support DDR3-1600 very well.

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($128.59 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $551.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


I am really digging that case!
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May 29, 2013 8:27:39 PM

$10 mail in rebate, plus a $10 instant rebate, for a total of $20 off.
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May 29, 2013 8:32:58 PM

mattius92 said:
$10 mail in rebate, plus a $10 instant rebate, for a total of $20 off.


Offer expires today...hmm..The pressure! I think I may just get this component first, right now, while I can still take advantage of the promo. I think I am going to pick your build.
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May 29, 2013 8:39:45 PM

Yeah, go ahead a buy the case, since a case is a case and it can be used for any type of build, plus cases don't really get slow after a while like a CPU, lol

And that build a showed you will be able to run games like BF3 on high-ultra with no problem.
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May 29, 2013 8:43:10 PM

mattius92 said:
Yeah, go ahead a buy the case, since a case is a case and it can be used for any type of build, plus cases don't really get slow after a while like a CPU, lol

And that build a showed you will be able to run games like BF3 on high-ultra with no problem.


I really appreciate your quick help. This is actually how I envisioned my build physically. I've never played BF3 before. I assume it's graphically intensive as Guild Wars 2 is?
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May 29, 2013 8:46:24 PM

Actually BF3 at the time of its release in 2011, it was one of the most graphically intensive games ever released, currently that title is given to Crysis 3. Which your PC could run Crysis 3 on medium, and thats saying a lot. My PC cost me $1200, and I can only run Crysis 3 on high.
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May 29, 2013 9:12:07 PM

Sounds good to me! I've never taken advantage of rebates before. Do they usually expire at the beginning of each month? I only ask because I want to buy each component one at a time and put the rebate purchases as top priority on the shopping list.
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June 2, 2013 10:58:01 AM

I found an i3 on Newegg for $109. Would that be a suitable replacement for the AMD?
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June 2, 2013 2:40:21 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.59 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.03 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $542.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-02 17:40 EDT-0400)
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June 2, 2013 6:56:52 PM

shambo said:
I found an i3 on Newegg for $109. Would that be a suitable replacement for the AMD?


AMD is better suited for a budget build, plus the current i3 family will soon be replaced by the forth gen Intel CPUs, so it would be best to stay with AMD.
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June 3, 2013 7:43:49 PM

Could I use the Corsair 8GB for memory instead of the Crucial Ballistix? Just to save a bit of $.
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June 3, 2013 8:51:47 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M LE Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($0.00 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.75 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $515.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-03 23:49 EDT-0400)

Try this. The ram is fairly cheap. The SSD is just there if you want it, otherwise the HDD should be fine for you. If you want, you can actually use one of the Ivy-Bridge Pentium Processors. This would give you room to upgrade to the i3/i5/i7 3rd gens later if you wish. You can also remove the SSD and add in a second 7770 for crossfire, which will be great performance at a low cost.

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June 3, 2013 9:09:06 PM

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-M LE Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($0.00 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.75 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $515.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-03 23:49 EDT-0400)

Try this. The ram is fairly cheap. The SSD is just there if you want it, otherwise the HDD should be fine for you. If you want, you can actually use one of the Ivy-Bridge Pentium Processors. This would give you room to upgrade to the i3/i5/i7 3rd gens later if you wish. You can also remove the SSD and add in a second 7770 for crossfire, which will be great performance at a low cost.



Ooh, I really like that case design! But I already purchased the Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case from the previous build. I actually just got it delivered today. Although I do like the price of your build. Would my case work with your build?

Also, one of your items is listed as $0.00. :p 
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June 6, 2013 10:54:55 AM

I've played around just a bit with the PC part picker with your build, Shadow and this is what I came up with. Any thoughts/opinions?:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-GL Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($68.84 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $484.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-06 13:58 EDT-0400)
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June 7, 2013 12:01:32 AM

It's good, but i would suggest instead a high end Pentium Processor, which will cost like $60 - $70. and a slightly better graphics card like the 650 TI Boost or the 7790/7850. Those won't be bottlenecked by a pentium, and the socket for the processor is upgradeable to a Core i3/5/7 later :) 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.15 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.62 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $393.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-07 03:01 EDT-0400)

Also,
4 GB is enough for right now, 8 GB is kind of overkill :) 
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June 7, 2013 2:20:16 PM

Shadowblade2652 said:
It's good, but i would suggest instead a high end Pentium Processor, which will cost like $60 - $70. and a slightly better graphics card like the 650 TI Boost or the 7790/7850. Those won't be bottlenecked by a pentium, and the socket for the processor is upgradeable to a Core i3/5/7 later :) 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.15 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.62 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $393.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-07 03:01 EDT-0400)

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4 GB is enough for right now, 8 GB is kind of overkill :) 


I suppose 4gb will suffice since this is a bare bones budget build meant to play GW2 and other such games. Can I substitute your case for mine? I already bought the Coolmaster Elite 430 tower case since they had a really good deal on it for a limited time. I also picked my specific motherboard since my case seems to be lacking a USB 3.0 port.
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June 7, 2013 3:29:29 PM

Can you tell me the make/model of the motherboard?

And yes, as long as the case is an ATX case, it will support uATX and ATX boards. If it's a uATX case, then it will only support uATX boards. (u = micro)
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June 7, 2013 3:42:22 PM

Motherboard: ASRock B75M-GL Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case

I had an issue picking parts with my case because it said my case doesn't have 3.0 USB header but the Mobo in your build does. I'm not sure if this will put a stick in things.
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June 7, 2013 10:23:52 PM

They'll fit, but it won't give you USB 3.0 speeds, it will give you USB 2.0 speeds :) 


The best answer button doesn't bite your finger ;) 
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June 8, 2013 2:26:36 PM

Will I absolutely need a cooler for this build or no? I noticed your build doesn't have one.
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June 8, 2013 3:57:44 PM

a fan will only cost like $10, and they aren't REQUIRED.
Although it's helpful to keep the heat down, which will prolong your components, the stock coolers will be fine because you won't be running games on high settings anyway.
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June 8, 2013 6:18:32 PM

Alright, I'll hold out on the fan for the time being since it's not really necessary. I also bought an optical drive (LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer). Hopefully that's enough to run most CDs.

Here's the build I am comfortable going with, finalized and all (I switched out the Mobo for something with more slots so I can add more memory down the line, if that's okay):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.39 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.52 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg) <---- Already purchased
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $461.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-08 21:13 EDT-0400)
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June 8, 2013 10:30:22 PM

if you buy a B75 chipset Motherboard, invest in an Ivy Bridge Pentium instead of a Sandy bridge. I recommend the Pentium G2020 or G2120. Those should give slightly better performance and lower TDP.
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