Could This PC I'm About To Buy Get Any Better With The Same Budget?

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Hey guys, The following rig is what I've chosen to buy, my main use of computer is for gaming, recording/producing music, blasting music, and watching movies, I've spent quite a time doing some searches for each choice, but since it's a been long time since I was a hardware geek, you know like everyday checking on new hardwares and all (since late 2008), maybe some of today's geeks think there're changes I could make. Take note that since I live in a f'd up country the prices are really expensive for me, it's like I'm buying a $3000/High-End PC, so any sort of alternatives that could lower the price without lowering the overall performance would be great, for instance I was going to get an Intel Core i3 2120 but when I saw how close Intel Pentium G645 is to that, I chose to get that instead (2020 costs around two G645s where I live), I'm also into overclocking, nothing too extreme that needs additional cooling methods, but for example back in 2009 when I had an AMD Athlon X2 4000+, I had it overclocked it to 2.5GHz.


MAINBOARD: Asus P8B75V
CPU: Intel Pentium G645 2.9GHz
RAM: Corsair 6GB DDR3 Triple Channel 1600
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB OC
HDD: Seagate SATA3 1TB 32MB Buffer 7200 RPM
SOUND CARD: M-Audio Fast Track Pro
PSU: Cooler Master 600W Active
MONITOR: LG 22" LED W2286L
SPEAKER: Logitech Z506
ODD: Samsung 24X SATA
CASE: Cooler Master Elite 430
 
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Please list where you are, where you can buy, and your budget. There are quite a few things I would change there, or at least investigate changing.

1. You need dual-channel RAM, not triple-channel. While 8GB is best, on a budget you could get 4GB and add more later.
2. Something built by Seasonic, FSP, Enermax/LEPA, Delta, or Super Flower would be much better.
3. For the same or less money, a GTX650Ti Boost should slightly outperform the HD7850 in most games. Read the HardOCP review of the card: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/26/nvidia_geforce_gtx_650_ti_boost_video_card_review/ for more information.
4. I think you will be sorely disappointed by the performance of the Pentium G645 in any demanding tasks (like current games)...
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Please list where you are, where you can buy, and your budget. There are quite a few things I would change there, or at least investigate changing.

1. You need dual-channel RAM, not triple-channel. While 8GB is best, on a budget you could get 4GB and add more later.
2. Something built by Seasonic, FSP, Enermax/LEPA, Delta, or Super Flower would be much better.
3. For the same or less money, a GTX650Ti Boost should slightly outperform the HD7850 in most games. Read the HardOCP review of the card: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/26/nvidia_geforce_gtx_650_ti_boost_video_card_review/ for more information.
4. I think you will be sorely disappointed by the performance of the Pentium G645 in any demanding tasks (like current games). It's locked too, so you won't be able to overclock it. You'll need to post more about your budget and where you can buy, as it looks like your better choices will be an Intel i3 or an AMD Phenom II; possibly a FX-4300 or even an unlocked AMD APU.
5. Your recording may need a sound card, but some motherboards may have good enough sound that you won't. The ALC898 Codec, for example, has >100dBA S/N on inputs and outputs. In any case, a sound card is easy to add later.
 
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What about that list?
In fact I was thinking of 4GB because I have doubts about going for a 64Bit OS, as it could make trouble for a lot of programs/games I use.
Could you make an example of a better edition? cause Asus' graphic cards are insanely expensive in this country, and I particularly don't like XFX, that Sapphire one was the best I could find.
 
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I get what you mean but the point is that even if you know where I live it wouldn't help you much, but for the budget maybe if my money's converted to US Dollar it'd be around $1000 I guess.

1. Any suggestions for its brand (many of the brands aren't available here due to the same reason though) or its speed?
2. Believe me CM (!) is my best choice in here, there're only f'd up Green powers available beside CM, and if I walk in a store and ask for anything Seasonic, FSP, Enermax/LEPA, Delta, or Super Flower they'll think I'm from another planet, which is quite the case I guess.. anyway how about OCZ or Thermaltake? I think I can find those if I seek the entire country.
3. GTX 650 is way more expensive than 7850 in here, the only Nvidia card close to that is 560TI, which isn't a good choice (and it's even a bit more expensive than that).
4. Really? ..I think the most I can pay for CPU would be the price of an Intel Core i3 2120
5. That won't be easy to add for me at all, this is like my first and last purchase in I-don't-know-what-years (I'm going thru such an inferno of whatnots for acquiring that amount of money), and I really need that specific soundcard.
 
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Why?
But Sapphire has been in bound with ATI for many years, and unlike MSI or Gigabyte they're focused on ATI only, in any case if there're any specific MSI models (I don't dig Gigabyte's products at all) you've came across that beat Sapphire's model you can give some more info/links.
 
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Sounds like you're in a tough spot mate. I wish I could help you out.

For 1k$

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3330 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($181.12 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($248.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($72.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $950.26
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-29 12:15 EDT-0400)

This is what you could get. Not counting the soundcard.

There's nothing wrong with an i3 either. With hyperthreading, it's a quad core.

If you look again:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,review-32653-5.html

The i3 you mentioned is only 2nd from the top!

OCZ and Thermaltake are both fine too.
 
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Somewhere else, someplace good maybe pal.. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-XT3wXOOMI)
I think my guess wasn't good at all, those are either too expensive here (Intel Core i5-3330), or not available at all (G.Skill Ripjaws X Series) but thanks for replying, I'll search for some similar choices.
 
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I like G.Skill and Mushkin for RAM. I've also used AData and Crucial. None of the four has been flawless, but I've only had maybe 1-2 DOA sticks from each, and none failed in service.
New Thermaltake PSUs are decent, but older ones (with a little voltage switch) are no better than CM. OCZ is ok too, and of the three is likely what I'd choose (unless the Thermaltakes are new models).
If the HD7850 is a lot cheaper than the GTX650Ti Boost Edition, then get it; it isn't a bad card, but it sounds like the better ones are severely overpriced. I'm guessing now you're in an Arab country, or perhaps Iran. We have other forum members from those countries, so perhaps they can more accurately assist you to find decent parts.
 
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What about Ram's speed? 1066/1333/1600?
Then I'll be looking for OCZ.
Thanks, that won't be necessary AT ALL, you helped a great deal, I don't need to know anything else.
 
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What about the OS itself? is it better to go for Windows 8 or not? I myself would prefer XP for gaming with Ubuntu for Multimedia/Surfing/etc though.
 
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It's best in terms of security and performance to go with 8.

XP is OVER 10 years old and a very vulnerable OS. Doesn't get better by the fact

that MS is stopping security updates and support for it entirely in 2014, april.

By the way, try out Mint.
 
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Well about the security I have been working with XP and have stopped downloading Microsoft's updates myself for more than three years and there hasn't been a single problem, and for the performance are you really sure it'd be better in 8? cause it was in Asus' ROG that I saw a CPU Overclock record gained on a XP SP3 some months ago.
Mint is cool, but I always dug Ubuntu in a special way.
 
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I hope there wasn't any misunderstanding cause I didn't mean anything like I'm right or you're wrong, I was just trying to say what I think about that or about the Asus ROG thing what I've observed. :)
 
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I'd take that over a Pentium any day. If the price is acceptable, the performance will be a LOT better. Overclocked, it should match or beat an i3. You will need a reasonable cooler though, such as a Xigmatek Gaia. Any 120mm tower-style direct touch cooler will offer similar performance, so you can get whichever is cheaper. For example, at Newegg the Gaia is $10 cheaper than the comparable Hyper212 EVO.
 
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Well ASUS Rog is really awesome, but should be expensive. Lots of great features though.
 
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So I'll have to overclock FX-6300 for instance to beat or grasp Core i3 2120's performance? (I'm not really sure about their difference in price at the moment since I couldn't find FX-6300 anywhere on the online shops in here but I'll look for it out in the stores later) I'm just asking that because of FX-6300 being considered an 8-core and all, didn't expect it to be weaker..
 
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I don't get the point about your comparison, a higher speed clock in a graphic card isn't comparable to cores in a CPU, you can say a 2 core CPU is more effective than a 1 core CPU, anyway my question was about those two specific models.
 
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