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Frame rate dropping horrible and CPU performing poorly

I have a:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Nvidia Geforce GTX 550ti Vide card
4gb Ram DDR2
MSI G41m P33 combo Motherboard
My PSU is a 450w Corsair

I had a EVGA 780i mother board and i played starcraft 2 in extreme perfectly no frame rate drops or anything but the mobo died i bought this cheap one the Msi g41m p33 combo and starcraft isnt running well...

My question is if the motherboard has anything to do with my poor perfomance or is my cpu getting old and i have to replace soon? Thanks
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  1. Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.
  2. elemein said:
    Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.

    No its no overclocked it running 2.4 stock and I've never overclocked it
    What's vrm???
  3. Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.

    No its no overclocked it running 2.4 stock and I've never overclocked it
    What's vrm???


    VRM = Voltage Regulator Module.

    Say, does performance also drop off in games that dont stress the GPU that much?
  4. Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.

    No its no overclocked it running 2.4 stock and I've never overclocked it
    What's vrm???


    VRM = Voltage Regulator Module.

    Say, does performance also drop off in games that dont stress the GPU that much?

    [/qyes it still dropping perfomance uotemsg]


    Yes its still dropping performance
  5. elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.

    No its no overclocked it running 2.4 stock and I've never overclocked it
    What's vrm???


    VRM = Voltage Regulator Module.

    Say, does performance also drop off in games that dont stress the GPU that much?

    [/qyes it still dropping perfomance uotemsg]


    Yes its still dropping performance



    That's unusual; the only possible reason I think this may be happening is that the motherboard cannot supply the needed power of the components, effectively "bottlenecking" them.
  6. Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.

    No its no overclocked it running 2.4 stock and I've never overclocked it
    What's vrm???


    VRM = Voltage Regulator Module.

    Say, does performance also drop off in games that dont stress the GPU that much?

    [/qyes it still dropping perfomance uotemsg]


    Yes its still dropping performance



    That's unusual; the only possible reason I think this may be happening is that the motherboard cannot supply the needed power of the components, effectively "bottlenecking" them.

    Well what do you suggest a PSU?
  7. Mabodamaca said:

    Well what do you suggest a PSU?


    No, this seems to be a motherboard issue since your PSU worked fine with your old motherboard.
  8. Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.

    No its no overclocked it running 2.4 stock and I've never overclocked it
    What's vrm???


    VRM = Voltage Regulator Module.

    Say, does performance also drop off in games that dont stress the GPU that much?

    [/qyes it still dropping perfomance uotemsg]


    Yes its still dropping performance



    That's unusual; the only possible reason I think this may be happening is that the motherboard cannot supply the needed power of the components, effectively "bottlenecking" them.


    Well I have a 750w corsair PSU but it doesnt have a 4 pin for the mobo i used my 450 and 750 psu with my other mobo and both worked great but if its the motherboard then i need a good mobo?
  9. Best answer
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Is your CPU overclocked at all? Sounds like a VRM problem possibly.

    No its no overclocked it running 2.4 stock and I've never overclocked it
    What's vrm???


    VRM = Voltage Regulator Module.

    Say, does performance also drop off in games that dont stress the GPU that much?

    [/qyes it still dropping perfomance uotemsg]


    Yes its still dropping performance



    That's unusual; the only possible reason I think this may be happening is that the motherboard cannot supply the needed power of the components, effectively "bottlenecking" them.


    Well I have a 750w corsair PSU but it doesnt have a 4 pin for the mobo i used my 450 and 750 psu with my other mobo and both worked great but if its the motherboard then i need a good mobo?


    Yes, the motherboard si the issue if its the only thing you changed.
  10. Mabodamaca said:
    I have a:
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 550ti Vide card
    4gb Ram DDR2
    MSI G41m P33 combo Motherboard
    My PSU is a 450w Corsair

    I had a EVGA 780i mother board and i played starcraft 2 in extreme perfectly no frame rate drops or anything but the mobo died i bought this cheap one the Msi g41m p33 combo and starcraft isnt running well...

    My question is if the motherboard has anything to do with my poor perfomance or is my cpu getting old and i have to replace soon? Thanks


    I'm sorry to have to be the one who says it... But you're due for a CPU/Motherboard/RAM upgrade. Also A new graphics card wouldn't hurt either. The GTX 550 Ti is rather weak and the Core 2 Quad Q6600 is OK but not at all recommended for gaming anymore. The motherboard you currently have isn't good enough to power a Quad core CPU at acceptable levels. You should... By all means start on a new build rather than getting another old motherboard that can run your Q6600 better.
  11. Mabodamaca said:
    I have a:
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 550ti Vide card
    4gb Ram DDR2
    MSI G41m P33 combo Motherboard
    My PSU is a 450w Corsair

    I had a EVGA 780i mother board and i played starcraft 2 in extreme perfectly no frame rate drops or anything but the mobo died i bought this cheap one the Msi g41m p33 combo and starcraft isnt running well...

    My question is if the motherboard has anything to do with my poor perfomance or is my cpu getting old and i have to replace soon? Thanks


    theonerm2 said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    I have a:
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 550ti Vide card
    4gb Ram DDR2
    MSI G41m P33 combo Motherboard
    My PSU is a 450w Corsair

    I had a EVGA 780i mother board and i played starcraft 2 in extreme perfectly no frame rate drops or anything but the mobo died i bought this cheap one the Msi g41m p33 combo and starcraft isnt running well...

    My question is if the motherboard has anything to do with my poor perfomance or is my cpu getting old and i have to replace soon? Thanks


    I'm sorry to have to be the one who says it... But you're due for a CPU/Motherboard/RAM upgrade. Also A new graphics card wouldn't hurt either. The GTX 550 Ti is rather weak and the Core 2 Quad Q6600 is OK but not at all recommended for gaming anymore. The motherboard you currently have isn't good enough to power a Quad core CPU at acceptable levels. You should... By all means start on a new build rather than getting another old motherboard that can run your Q6600 better.


    Yeah you guys are right the mobo is to cheap to run my q6600 thank u guys both and what do you guys suggest to buy a super gaming computer?... im an enthuasiastic gamer
  12. Mabodamaca said:


    Yeah you guys are right the mobo is to cheap to run my q6600 thank u guys both and what do you guys suggest to buy a super gaming computer?... im an enthuasiastic gamer


    Getting a new motherboard would be a good idea. Get your old one if they still sell them.

    If you want a new gaming computer, give us a budget and we'll help you with the build.
  13. elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:


    Yeah you guys are right the mobo is to cheap to run my q6600 thank u guys both and what do you guys suggest to buy a super gaming computer?... im an enthuasiastic gamer


    Getting a new motherboard would be a good idea. Get your old one if they still sell them.

    If you want a new gaming computer, give us a budget and we'll help you with the build.


    like 2500$ or 2800$
  14. Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:


    Yeah you guys are right the mobo is to cheap to run my q6600 thank u guys both and what do you guys suggest to buy a super gaming computer?... im an enthuasiastic gamer


    Getting a new motherboard would be a good idea. Get your old one if they still sell them.

    If you want a new gaming computer, give us a budget and we'll help you with the build.


    like 2500$ or 2800$


    I highly, highly suggest you wait a handful of days before getting build suggestions. Intel's new Haswell CPU architecture is projected to release June 2-4th, and it'll be worth the small wait.
  15. elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:


    Yeah you guys are right the mobo is to cheap to run my q6600 thank u guys both and what do you guys suggest to buy a super gaming computer?... im an enthuasiastic gamer


    Getting a new motherboard would be a good idea. Get your old one if they still sell them.

    If you want a new gaming computer, give us a budget and we'll help you with the build.


    like 2500$ or 2800$


    I highly, highly suggest you wait a handful of days before getting build suggestions. Intel's new Haswell CPU architecture is projected to release June 2-4th, and it'll be worth the small wait.


    yeah ill wait its not now im going to buy it maybe in a couple of months ill have it thank u
  16. Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:


    Yeah you guys are right the mobo is to cheap to run my q6600 thank u guys both and what do you guys suggest to buy a super gaming computer?... im an enthuasiastic gamer


    Getting a new motherboard would be a good idea. Get your old one if they still sell them.

    If you want a new gaming computer, give us a budget and we'll help you with the build.


    like 2500$ or 2800$


    You don't have to spend that much. $1500 is enough in my opinion.

    I would get a $200 Core i5 CPU
    A $100 case
    A $100 power supply
    $50 in RAM
    $150 HDD
    $150 SSD
    $400 Graphics card
    $15 DVD drive
    $100 Motherboard
    $100 O/S

    Total $1365

    Just an example.. More than good enough for all of your games and within a $1400 budget. More is not really necessary. 'Future proofing' really isn't worth it because just 2 years down the line your hardware is already obsolete and obsolete by far compared to the newer hardware even if you have the top of the line EVERYTHING from today. It's cheaper to just upgrade as your needs change rather than try to future proof by spending ridiculous amounts of money today.
  17. theonerm2 said:
    'Future proofing' really isn't worth it because just 2 years down the line your hardware is already obsolete and obsolete by far compared to the newer hardware even if you have the top of the line EVERYTHING from today. It's cheaper to just upgrade as your needs change rather than try to future proof by spending ridiculous amounts of money today.


    2 years? That's a massive exaggeration.

    By that logic, the i5-2500K is far obsolete. It is certainly not.
  18. elemein said:
    theonerm2 said:
    'Future proofing' really isn't worth it because just 2 years down the line your hardware is already obsolete and obsolete by far compared to the newer hardware even if you have the top of the line EVERYTHING from today. It's cheaper to just upgrade as your needs change rather than try to future proof by spending ridiculous amounts of money today.


    2 years? That's a massive exaggeration.

    By that logic, the i5-2500K is far obsolete. It is certainly not.

    The 2500K will be far obsolete when the Haswell Core i5 part replaces it. It's still good enough though so why spend $1000 on a 'future proof' CPU when in 2 years it's getting replaced by a much more powerful CPU? Why spend that money when a $200 CPU is plenty good enough to last for years and years? I guess bragging rights for a year is worth it? That's my point. I'm not saying your CPU is bad. I'm just pointing out why it's not good to go over the top with PC parts.
  19. theonerm2 said:

    The 2500K will be far obsolete when the Haswell Core i5 part replaces it.


    Tens of thousands of people disagree with you; me amongst them. Explain your reasoning. The 2500K is not obsolete by any means.
  20. elemein said:
    theonerm2 said:

    The 2500K will be far obsolete when the Haswell Core i5 part replaces it.


    Tens of thousands of people disagree with you; me amongst them. Explain your reasoning. The 2500K is not obsolete by any means.

    I'm going by Moore's law. The 2500K is already obsolete because of the fact that it has been replaced with the 3570K. The 3570K isn't a whole lot more powerful than the 2500K and I don't know anything about the Core i5 4570K? But I'm assuming it will be a great deal better than the 2500K just going by Moore's Law.
  21. theonerm2 said:
    But I'm assuming it will be a great deal better than the 2500K just going by Moore's Law.

    Moore's law is only about the number of transistors in chips. It does not mean much performance-wise.

    As for performance improvement between chip generations, we are looking at only 7-10%/year for the last few Intel generations. Nothing worth upgrading more than once every 3-4 years for most people.

    The i5-2500 may be obsolete as an SKU but pretty much on par with current and even Haswell chips so definitely not obsolete performance-wise.
  22. InvalidError said:

    The i5-2500 may be obsolete as an SKU but pretty much on par with current and even Haswell chips so definitely not obsolete performance-wise.


    And this right here is why it is not obsolete.

    Also, I wont comment much on Haswell; but synthetic benchmarks dont show everything. Just saying.
  23. BTW, is OP still using the stock HSF? The plastic frame and push-pins loosen/deform over time and often fail to provide sufficient contact force after 3-4 years. You might want to try getting a new HSF - preferably one with screw-mounts with backplate or at least spring-mounted one.

    Just about everyone I know with Intel's push-pin HSF has had to replace it after 3-4 years for this reason.
  24. theonerm2 said:
    Mabodamaca said:
    elemein said:
    Mabodamaca said:


    Yeah you guys are right the mobo is to cheap to run my q6600 thank u guys both and what do you guys suggest to buy a super gaming computer?... im an enthuasiastic gamer


    Getting a new motherboard would be a good idea. Get your old one if they still sell them.

    If you want a new gaming computer, give us a budget and we'll help you with the build.


    like 2500$ or 2800$


    You don't have to spend that much. $1500 is enough in my opinion.

    I would get a $200 Core i5 CPU
    A $100 case
    A $100 power supply
    $50 in RAM
    $150 HDD
    $150 SSD
    $400 Graphics card
    $15 DVD drive
    $100 Motherboard
    $100 O/S

    Total $1365

    Just an example.. More than good enough for all of your games and within a $1400 budget. More is not really necessary. 'Future proofing' really isn't worth it because just 2 years down the line your hardware is already obsolete and obsolete by far compared to the newer hardware even if you have the top of the line EVERYTHING from today. It's cheaper to just upgrade as your needs change rather than try to future proof by spending ridiculous amounts of money today.


    oh thas a good price but i want the i7 and a power supply i have a 750w corsair. But your right sspending alot of money isnt just worth it. Thx
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