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FX 8350 vs i5 3470 for gaming + heavy multitasking + live streaming

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May 30, 2013 4:10:31 AM

I know that the I5 3470 has better performance per core, but it only has 4, and while the FX 8350 has weaker performance per core it has 8, and I am planning on using every single one of them.

Keep in mind:

They are exactly in my budget, I cannot get anything better.

(So don't recommend me an I7 instead)

I am planning on rendering while recording (I can dedicate 2-4 cores for rendering while still recording) or for live streaming.


If I go with the FX 8350, I'm planning on getting water cooling later on and overclock it to 5 Ghz

I am a heavy multitasker, and I can easily max out the use of the 8 cores by live streaming and/or rendering while recording.

(Extra info: In the future I'm planning on getting 16-32 GB of ram (I use a lot of it) and possibly if I have any money left an SSD, a GPU is my last concern as my entire computer is currently bottlenecking me when it comes to video making (My GPU is the HD 6850, Not ideal, but I don't have enough money to get anything better without sacrificing something else, which I cannot) Here are my current specifications:
GPU: HD 6850
Ram: 4 GB clocked at 1333 Mhz
CPU: i3 540 (Not ideal at all, not ideal at all)
Motherboard: Gigabyte H55M-D2H

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I'm looking for opinions on these two processors ONLY, I do not want offers for any other processors.

Thanks!

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May 30, 2013 4:16:16 AM

lolhate said:
I know that the I5 3470 has better performance per core, but it only has 4, and while the FX 8350 has weaker performance per core it has 8, and I am planning on using every single one of them.

Keep in mind:

They are exactly in my budget, I cannot get anything better.

(So don't recommend me an I7 instead)

I am planning on rendering while recording (I can dedicate 2-4 cores for rendering while still recording) or for live streaming.


If I go with the FX 8350, I'm planning on getting water cooling later on and overclock it to 5 Ghz

I am a heavy multitasker, and I can easily max out the use of the 8 cores by live streaming and/or rendering while recording.

(Extra info: In the future I'm planning on getting 16-32 GB of ram (I use a lot of it) and possibly if I have any money left an SSD, a GPU is my last concern as my entire computer is currently bottlenecking me when it comes to video making (My GPU is the HD 6850, Not ideal, but I don't have enough money to get anything better without sacrificing something else, which I cannot) Here are my current specifications:
GPU: HD 6850
Ram: 4 GB clocked at 1333 Mhz
CPU: i3 540 (Not ideal at all, not ideal at all)
Motherboard: Gigabyte H55M-D2H

)

I'm looking for opinions on these two processors ONLY, I do not want offers for any other processors.

Thanks!


Get the FX 8350. It will suit your purpose more than the i5 3470 does. Though in terms of gaming, in a very few games the i5 3470 may perform better but that would bear a slighter margin. So the FX 8350 suits more.
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May 30, 2013 4:17:28 AM

because you're a heavy multitasker I recommend the fx 8350, you can also go for the fx 8320 but it will oc less.
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May 30, 2013 4:18:44 AM

Just because you said that you want ONLY either of those two processors doesn't stop us from telling you a better processor. :D 

Without further ado: the intel xeon e3-1230v2. Essentially the i7 minus the integrated graphics. And at the price of a i5. And built specifically for tasks which you mentioned. Consider this option seriously, without dismissing it.

P.S: Don't be too fixated. :D . Have fun reading up on the xeon.
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May 30, 2013 4:23:54 AM

Here is detailed synthetics between 8350 and 3470;
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/702?vs=697

Both CPU's are on par as you can see from the list, but as you notice, intel shines on gaming more and obviously amd shines on multicore rendering.

But overall, intel is slightly better or lets say... hmm, efficient?

What I think is that, if you can clock AMD up to 5G it will be better than a 3470 since they are already closely performing and intel will never reach up to 5G. (well it doesnt actually need to :/  )

but in the end, its a one f'n tough decision. I'd do what I always do... Go for intel :) 
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May 30, 2013 4:27:28 AM

Straight forward, take the FX-8350. BUT if you take the i5 now, you can always upgrade later to an i7. Its though to decide, but the FX-8370 has better passmark rating 9137, the 3470 has 6608. FX-8350 overclocks, 3470 not. Overall in gaming no difference, multitasking the FX performs a better. My choice in this situation: FX-8350
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May 30, 2013 4:38:27 AM

I understand where the I5 shines over the FX 8350, and where the FX 8350 shines over the i5, but I don't know what's more important and what will benefit me more.

Will the FX 8350 give me better performance in a game while rendering when sony vegas is limited to only use up to four cores? will it render quicker than the i5 when using all 8 cores? I know some programs might run slower, but I will be able to run more programs at once and that is where the speed benefit really shines and comes into play.
Not to mention the sexy overclocking potential.

Plus, games that can support 8 cores (though not many) will be much faster on the FX 8350.
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May 30, 2013 4:47:20 AM

lolhate said:
I understand where the I5 shines over the FX 8350, and where the FX 8350 shines over the i5, but I don't know what's more important and what will benefit me more.

Will the FX 8350 give me better performance in a game while rendering when sony vegas is limited to only use up to four cores? will it render quicker than the i5 when using all 8 cores? I know some programs might run slower, but I will be able to run more programs at once and that is where the speed benefit really shines and comes into play.
Not to mention the sexy overclocking potential.

Plus, games that can support 8 cores (though not many) will be much faster on the FX 8350.


When gaming and rendering at the same time the fx 8350 will be much better. There arn't games that are using all eight cores(not 100% sure) but all games that are coming out now(except metro last light) perform almost the same on the 8350 as the same as the i5.
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May 30, 2013 8:27:18 AM

You NEED more ram just so you know. But yeah for what you are doing go with the 8350. The i5 and it give very similar gaming performance (from what I have read) but the 8350 really wins outside of that.

Edit: you said you are getting more ram don't know how I missed that...
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May 31, 2013 9:28:04 AM

Games that use 8 cores won't be better on the 8350. Games like Crysis 3 already use 8 cores and they perform the same. You can't compare an 8350 overclocked to a 3470 not overclocked. Why not get a 3570k? It has way more overclocking headroom. If you match the 3470 and 8350 up, and have them clocked at the same clock, they'll be almost identical to each other in multithreading performance. This is why AMD upped the 8350's clock. To make up for what it was lacking in the first place. The benefit of doing this is better performance, the bad part is that you have hardly any headroom for overclocking. With an 8350, your MAX overclock will probably be 5.0Ghz, which is 1.0Ghz past stock. On a 3570k your MAX is probably 5.0Ghz, which is 1.6Ghz above stock. So if you get a 3570k, the .6Ghz advantage it has eats up any multithreading advantage the 8350 once had. And during single threading and games, it'll be much much faster.

There are also many "mixed" workloads that require good single, and multithreaded performance. AMD is lacking here too. Again, anything that doesn't use all 8 of the 8350's cores all the time, won't turn out good for the 8350. This is why it's an unbalanced CPU.

If you read a lot of reviews like I do, you'll notice that during normal everyday CPU activities, or in Benchmarks like PCMark7, the 3570k dominates the 8350 even at stock clocks. During normal CPU activities the 3570k is faster.

This is one example of the benefits of an i5....

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/701?vs=697

the i5 wins like 75% of these benchmarks. Even in the multithreaded benchmarks the i5 isn't behind by much. And if you match them up clock for clock then this advantage goes away.
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