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May 30, 2013 4:43:20 PM

Hi, I'm building a new PC that will be strictly for gaming and I can't choose between the brand new 770 or the 7970 GHz edition.
I will have an Intel core i7 3770k
8gb of ram
Thanks!

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May 30, 2013 4:46:39 PM

Not even a question, 770 of course.
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May 30, 2013 4:52:14 PM

Isoscelist said:
Hi, I'm building a new PC that will be strictly for gaming and I can't choose between the brand new 770 or the 7970 GHz edition.
I will have an Intel core i7 3770k
8gb of ram
Thanks!


Well they perform a bit same. But with GTX 770 you'll be getting Physx but in 7970 not. The 7970 got higher memory bandwidth and VRAM but in BF3, the GTX 770 beats the 7970 with a 10fps scale. So I'd get settled for a 770. And then if you get the Zotac's one, it'll even cost a bit less.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2013 4:54:17 PM

endeavour37a said:
Not even a question, 770 of course.


i'd say it's a question...

First of all the 7970 can overclock like a beast. It's doubtful either card is faster then the other when both are fully overclocked. Second the 7970 comes with 4 games... if the op wants those games i'd say it's one heck of a value. Throw in the fact the 7970 is a great bitcoin miner...

that said, if the op wants to get multiple gpus down the road he's better off with the 770. if he doesn't want to overclock, the 770 is a little bit faster. If he's concerned with noise and temps, the 770 is a better buy. If he has no interest in the games the 770 is a better buy.

i wouldn't call it a no brainer. it's pretty much dependent on the OP's needs.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2013 4:54:46 PM

Depends on whether or not you like or already have the bundled games with the 7970. If you want them 7970 will save you a lot of cash over a 770. But the 770 is slightly better in single card configuration and ridiculously better in sli.
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May 30, 2013 4:56:52 PM

ingtar33 said:
endeavour37a said:
Not even a question, 770 of course.


i'd say it's a question...

First of all the 7970 can overclock like a beast. It's doubtful either card is faster then the other when both are fully overclocked. Second the 7970 comes with 4 games... if the op wants those games i'd say it's one heck of a value. Throw in the fact the 7970 is a great bitcoin miner...

that said, if the op wants to get multiple gpus down the road he's better off with the 770. if he doesn't want to overclock, the 770 is a little bit faster. If he's concerned with noise and temps, the 770 is a better buy. If he has no interest in the games the 770 is a better buy.

i wouldn't call it a no brainer. it's pretty much dependent on the OP's needs.


+1 to this. Yes, the overclocking feature and the free games also count.
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May 30, 2013 4:58:59 PM

Well, nvidia has really performed on the driver and program section. Gpu boost 2.0 is great. geforce experience is a HUGE plus honestly.
Keep in mind it is very new and will probably receive a few drivers that make it kill the 7970 ghz.
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May 30, 2013 4:59:54 PM

sifatraquib said:
ingtar33 said:
endeavour37a said:
Not even a question, 770 of course.


i'd say it's a question...

First of all the 7970 can overclock like a beast. It's doubtful either card is faster then the other when both are fully overclocked. Second the 7970 comes with 4 games... if the op wants those games i'd say it's one heck of a value. Throw in the fact the 7970 is a great bitcoin miner...

that said, if the op wants to get multiple gpus down the road he's better off with the 770. if he doesn't want to overclock, the 770 is a little bit faster. If he's concerned with noise and temps, the 770 is a better buy. If he has no interest in the games the 770 is a better buy.

i wouldn't call it a no brainer. it's pretty much dependent on the OP's needs.


+1 to this. Yes, the overclocking feature and the free games also count.


+1 from me as well. I feel that both cards are pretty much equal when you take SLI vs. CrossFire out of the equation, and as such the one most suited to OP's purposes is the most ideal.
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May 30, 2013 5:06:51 PM

sifatraquib said:
ingtar33 said:
endeavour37a said:
Not even a question, 770 of course.


i'd say it's a question...

First of all the 7970 can overclock like a beast. It's doubtful either card is faster then the other when both are fully overclocked. Second the 7970 comes with 4 games... if the op wants those games i'd say it's one heck of a value. Throw in the fact the 7970 is a great bitcoin miner...

that said, if the op wants to get multiple gpus down the road he's better off with the 770. if he doesn't want to overclock, the 770 is a little bit faster. If he's concerned with noise and temps, the 770 is a better buy. If he has no interest in the games the 770 is a better buy.

i wouldn't call it a no brainer. it's pretty much dependent on the OP's needs.


+1 to this. Yes, the overclocking feature and the free games also count.


What free games?
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May 30, 2013 5:07:57 PM

Isoscelist said:
sifatraquib said:
ingtar33 said:
endeavour37a said:
Not even a question, 770 of course.


i'd say it's a question...

First of all the 7970 can overclock like a beast. It's doubtful either card is faster then the other when both are fully overclocked. Second the 7970 comes with 4 games... if the op wants those games i'd say it's one heck of a value. Throw in the fact the 7970 is a great bitcoin miner...

that said, if the op wants to get multiple gpus down the road he's better off with the 770. if he doesn't want to overclock, the 770 is a little bit faster. If he's concerned with noise and temps, the 770 is a better buy. If he has no interest in the games the 770 is a better buy.

i wouldn't call it a no brainer. it's pretty much dependent on the OP's needs.


+1 to this. Yes, the overclocking feature and the free games also count.


What free games?


Currently, Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon (but not normal FC3), Bioshock Infinite, and Crysis 3.
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May 30, 2013 5:10:55 PM

Hakumisoso Terror said:
Well, nvidia has really performed on the driver and program section. Gpu boost 2.0 is great. geforce experience is a HUGE plus honestly.
Keep in mind it is very new and will probably receive a few drivers that make it kill the 7970 ghz.


it's the same 104 core they've been making drivers for a year and a half. there is no driver breakthrough coming. this is a mature architecture... they aren't' gonna milk more out of it then already is here.
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May 30, 2013 5:18:26 PM

I'm afraid of frying the card while over clocking... is it safe?
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May 30, 2013 5:23:03 PM

Isoscelist said:
I'm afraid of frying the card while over clocking... is it safe?


generally it's pretty safe. you can't really fry a gpu unless you play with voltages and most gpus have locked voltages.
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May 30, 2013 5:27:16 PM

Thanks, i've also been looking at various reviews of the 770 but, they all say that it's good competition to the 7970 GHz but that it doesn't match it, why?
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a b 4 Gaming
May 30, 2013 5:31:01 PM

GTX 770 Review
Well they look like they are on par, with GTX 770 being a little faster in some cases. GTX 770 in fact is a tweaked/overclocked GTX 680. If it really costs around $400 it is a good deal IMO. The only 2 things i don't like about that card is its power consumption and its memory size (2GB for now). Boy, this power house could as well hold a larger memory pool for better future proofing. Power consumption was one of the Kepler's advantages over Tahiti but now we see it no more with this card. Also 7970 GHZ comes with some good game titles. If you want the newest tech, go for GTX 770. But if it were me, i'd wait a little for 1- The price wars (AMD might cut down their prices to compete and they probably will, it seems) 2- Custom designed GTX 770s to hit the market (with better coolers?). Also there is a rumor that we will see 4GB custom designed ones hit the market soon. IMO this beast deserves that
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May 30, 2013 5:42:41 PM

Thanks everyone!
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May 30, 2013 5:44:55 PM

Oh and one more thing, will either of the two be able to play good games at fps and graphics?
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May 30, 2013 5:54:16 PM

Isoscelist said:
Oh and one more thing, will either of the two be able to play good games at fps and graphics?


You don't say. :D 
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May 30, 2013 6:04:31 PM

Hahahaha thanks
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May 31, 2013 6:20:57 PM

ingtar33 said:
endeavour37a said:
Not even a question, 770 of course.


i'd say it's a question...

First of all the 7970 can overclock like a beast. It's doubtful either card is faster then the other when both are fully overclocked. Second the 7970 comes with 4 games... if the op wants those games i'd say it's one heck of a value. Throw in the fact the 7970 is a great bitcoin miner...

that said, if the op wants to get multiple gpus down the road he's better off with the 770. if he doesn't want to overclock, the 770 is a little bit faster. If he's concerned with noise and temps, the 770 is a better buy. If he has no interest in the games the 770 is a better buy.

i wouldn't call it a no brainer. it's pretty much dependent on the OP's needs.


Sorry for long delay, got sidetracked. I meant for me it would not even be a question, not the person asking it, sorry for the confusion and me not saying it right. If someone laid both in front of me and asked which one I wanted, I would not have to even think about it, again sorry for my too brief comment...
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May 31, 2013 6:45:41 PM

What happened to the AMD fanboys running to their precious price per performance argument? According to them, that's all that matters. So an AMD fanboy's logic would tell you to purchase a GTX 770. It's cheaper and a little more powerful (depending on who's doing the benchmark). For anyone who doesn't have such a narrow point of view:

Acoustics: GTX 770
Temperatures: GTX 770
VRAM: HD 7970 GHz
Multiple GPU Performance: GTX 770 (significantly)
Perks: GTX 770 (PhysX, GPU Boost 2, etc.)
Free Games: HD 7970 GHz

I'll also not that the GTX 770 has the highest memory clock out of any single GPU card out there currently (7GHz). The Titan was the 7970 killer (by a landslide) in terms of everything except price per performance. The AMD fanboys hung onto that argument like a Krispy Kreme donut. This GTX 770 is another 7970 killer, but one that should sink into the hearts and souls of every AMD fanboy who doesn't make enough money to purchase Nvidia cards. Now all they've got is "WE'VE GOT MORE VRAM!!!1!" Well, hate to break it to you kids, but you won't be using that vram unless you're playing at higher resolutions and you'll need multiple 7970s to get enough horsepower to even support games at adequate framerates. Have fun with that Crossfire. Looks like AMD is going to have to release their 9000 series sooner than expected.
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June 1, 2013 8:15:24 PM

gridironcj said:
What happened to the AMD fanboys running to their precious price per performance argument? According to them, that's all that matters. So an AMD fanboy's logic would tell you to purchase a GTX 770. It's cheaper and a little more powerful (depending on who's doing the benchmark). For anyone who doesn't have such a narrow point of view:

Acoustics: GTX 770
Temperatures: GTX 770
VRAM: HD 7970 GHz
Multiple GPU Performance: GTX 770 (significantly)
Perks: GTX 770 (PhysX, GPU Boost 2, etc.)
Free Games: HD 7970 GHz

I'll also not that the GTX 770 has the highest memory clock out of any single GPU card out there currently (7GHz). The Titan was the 7970 killer (by a landslide) in terms of everything except price per performance. The AMD fanboys hung onto that argument like a Krispy Kreme donut. This GTX 770 is another 7970 killer, but one that should sink into the hearts and souls of every AMD fanboy who doesn't make enough money to purchase Nvidia cards. Now all they've got is "WE'VE GOT MORE VRAM!!!1!" Well, hate to break it to you kids, but you won't be using that vram unless you're playing at higher resolutions and you'll need multiple 7970s to get enough horsepower to even support games at adequate framerates. Have fun with that Crossfire. Looks like AMD is going to have to release their 9000 series sooner than expected.


But 2gb vram is really shortsighted don't you think? I remember the gtx 570 days and everyone was saying that 1.2 gb of its vram more than enough.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 1, 2013 8:45:12 PM

EVGA, Gainward, Palit and Zotac have anounced 4GB 770's already, most likely a few more to come..
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June 2, 2013 3:44:42 PM

gtx 770 is faster in lower res like 1920 x 1080 , 1920 x 1200 whereas 7970 is faster in resolutions like 2560 x 1600 , 2560 x 1440 , 5760 x 1080.
7970ghz has excellent free game bundle.
Gtx 770 has advanced physx whereas with 7970 ghz , you can only use low physx with your cpu.
Boderland games, metro 2033, metro last light are decent games which support physx ,
these cards are pretty competitive , just buy whatever you find cheaper :D 

if i was you i will spend 250 bucks more and buy gtx 780 , cuz thats new technology

i bought mine 7970 for 349 bucks 4 months ago and overclocked it 1100 core / 1400 memory , performance is really good. Better than gtx 770 in most cases.

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June 2, 2013 4:02:35 PM

gridironcj said:
What happened to the AMD fanboys running to their precious price per performance argument? According to them, that's all that matters. So an AMD fanboy's logic would tell you to purchase a GTX 770. It's cheaper and a little more powerful (depending on who's doing the benchmark). For anyone who doesn't have such a narrow point of view:

Acoustics: GTX 770
Temperatures: GTX 770
VRAM: HD 7970 GHz
Multiple GPU Performance: GTX 770 (significantly)
Perks: GTX 770 (PhysX, GPU Boost 2, etc.)
Free Games: HD 7970 GHz

I'll also not that the GTX 770 has the highest memory clock out of any single GPU card out there currently (7GHz). The Titan was the 7970 killer (by a landslide) in terms of everything except price per performance. The AMD fanboys hung onto that argument like a Krispy Kreme donut. This GTX 770 is another 7970 killer, but one that should sink into the hearts and souls of every AMD fanboy who doesn't make enough money to purchase Nvidia cards. Now all they've got is "WE'VE GOT MORE VRAM!!!1!" Well, hate to break it to you kids, but you won't be using that vram unless you're playing at higher resolutions and you'll need multiple 7970s to get enough horsepower to even support games at adequate framerates. Have fun with that Crossfire. Looks like AMD is going to have to release their 9000 series sooner than expected.


You're the only person that sounds like a fanboy on this thread lol. It's safe to call you an nVidia fanboy after that post.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 2, 2013 5:20:41 PM

Well the question of which one is a better card is simple, the GTX-770 is a better card than the HD-7970 GE.

Which one is a better buy could change at any time, the requirements of the person asking the question could change, but the cards remain as they are at this point in time.
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June 2, 2013 8:56:10 PM

endeavour37a said:
Well the question of which one is a better card is simple, the GTX-770 is a better card than the HD-7970 GE.

Which one is a better buy could change at any time, the requirements of the person asking the question could change, but the cards remain as they are at this point in time.



I agree, but the only real measure of what should go into a build is cost-benefit. Thus, if the 7970s drop in price (which it appears that they may), they will maintain price-to-power advantage. However, you're correct: the 770 is a stronger card, if not by a massive amount, and if you have to choose between the two at equal price and for 1080p, it is the obvious choice.
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June 3, 2013 4:58:18 PM

if anything prices are going to go up because of gddr5 prices going up.
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June 4, 2013 10:14:49 PM

SubinP said:
gridironcj said:
What happened to the AMD fanboys running to their precious price per performance argument? According to them, that's all that matters. So an AMD fanboy's logic would tell you to purchase a GTX 770. It's cheaper and a little more powerful (depending on who's doing the benchmark). For anyone who doesn't have such a narrow point of view:

Acoustics: GTX 770
Temperatures: GTX 770
VRAM: HD 7970 GHz
Multiple GPU Performance: GTX 770 (significantly)
Perks: GTX 770 (PhysX, GPU Boost 2, etc.)
Free Games: HD 7970 GHz

I'll also not that the GTX 770 has the highest memory clock out of any single GPU card out there currently (7GHz). The Titan was the 7970 killer (by a landslide) in terms of everything except price per performance. The AMD fanboys hung onto that argument like a Krispy Kreme donut. This GTX 770 is another 7970 killer, but one that should sink into the hearts and souls of every AMD fanboy who doesn't make enough money to purchase Nvidia cards. Now all they've got is "WE'VE GOT MORE VRAM!!!1!" Well, hate to break it to you kids, but you won't be using that vram unless you're playing at higher resolutions and you'll need multiple 7970s to get enough horsepower to even support games at adequate framerates. Have fun with that Crossfire. Looks like AMD is going to have to release their 9000 series sooner than expected.


You're the only person that sounds like a fanboy on this thread lol. It's safe to call you an nVidia fanboy after that post.


Coming from a guy with an AMD avatar? Laughable. Nvidia has superior products and I can afford their beat products, so why would I not support them over AMD? If AMD produced superior products, I would purchase an AMD card.
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June 4, 2013 10:25:12 PM

gridironcj said:
SubinP said:
gridironcj said:
What happened to the AMD fanboys running to their precious price per performance argument? According to them, that's all that matters. So an AMD fanboy's logic would tell you to purchase a GTX 770. It's cheaper and a little more powerful (depending on who's doing the benchmark). For anyone who doesn't have such a narrow point of view:

Acoustics: GTX 770
Temperatures: GTX 770
VRAM: HD 7970 GHz
Multiple GPU Performance: GTX 770 (significantly)
Perks: GTX 770 (PhysX, GPU Boost 2, etc.)
Free Games: HD 7970 GHz

I'll also not that the GTX 770 has the highest memory clock out of any single GPU card out there currently (7GHz). The Titan was the 7970 killer (by a landslide) in terms of everything except price per performance. The AMD fanboys hung onto that argument like a Krispy Kreme donut. This GTX 770 is another 7970 killer, but one that should sink into the hearts and souls of every AMD fanboy who doesn't make enough money to purchase Nvidia cards. Now all they've got is "WE'VE GOT MORE VRAM!!!1!" Well, hate to break it to you kids, but you won't be using that vram unless you're playing at higher resolutions and you'll need multiple 7970s to get enough horsepower to even support games at adequate framerates. Have fun with that Crossfire. Looks like AMD is going to have to release their 9000 series sooner than expected.


You're the only person that sounds like a fanboy on this thread lol. It's safe to call you an nVidia fanboy after that post.


Coming from a guy with an AMD avatar? Laughable. Nvidia has superior products and I can afford their beat products, so why would I not support them over AMD? If AMD produced superior products, I would purchase an AMD card.


I have an amd logo because I prefer amd, but that does not make me a fanboy.
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June 5, 2013 12:39:57 AM

SubinP said:
gridironcj said:
SubinP said:
gridironcj said:
What happened to the AMD fanboys running to their precious price per performance argument? According to them, that's all that matters. So an AMD fanboy's logic would tell you to purchase a GTX 770. It's cheaper and a little more powerful (depending on who's doing the benchmark). For anyone who doesn't have such a narrow point of view:

Acoustics: GTX 770
Temperatures: GTX 770
VRAM: HD 7970 GHz
Multiple GPU Performance: GTX 770 (significantly)
Perks: GTX 770 (PhysX, GPU Boost 2, etc.)
Free Games: HD 7970 GHz

I'll also not that the GTX 770 has the highest memory clock out of any single GPU card out there currently (7GHz). The Titan was the 7970 killer (by a landslide) in terms of everything except price per performance. The AMD fanboys hung onto that argument like a Krispy Kreme donut. This GTX 770 is another 7970 killer, but one that should sink into the hearts and souls of every AMD fanboy who doesn't make enough money to purchase Nvidia cards. Now all they've got is "WE'VE GOT MORE VRAM!!!1!" Well, hate to break it to you kids, but you won't be using that vram unless you're playing at higher resolutions and you'll need multiple 7970s to get enough horsepower to even support games at adequate framerates. Have fun with that Crossfire. Looks like AMD is going to have to release their 9000 series sooner than expected.


You're the only person that sounds like a fanboy on this thread lol. It's safe to call you an nVidia fanboy after that post.


Coming from a guy with an AMD avatar? Laughable. Nvidia has superior products and I can afford their beat products, so why would I not support them over AMD? If AMD produced superior products, I would purchase an AMD card.


I have an amd logo because I prefer amd, but that does not make me a fanboy.


Why do you prefer AMD? Define what a fanboy is because I sense a contradiction: you accused me of being an Nvidia fanboy for preferring Nvidia, but you're not an AMD fanboy for preferring AMD.
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June 5, 2013 1:00:27 AM

gridironcj said:
SubinP said:
gridironcj said:
SubinP said:
gridironcj said:
What happened to the AMD fanboys running to their precious price per performance argument? According to them, that's all that matters. So an AMD fanboy's logic would tell you to purchase a GTX 770. It's cheaper and a little more powerful (depending on who's doing the benchmark). For anyone who doesn't have such a narrow point of view:

Acoustics: GTX 770
Temperatures: GTX 770
VRAM: HD 7970 GHz
Multiple GPU Performance: GTX 770 (significantly)
Perks: GTX 770 (PhysX, GPU Boost 2, etc.)
Free Games: HD 7970 GHz

I'll also not that the GTX 770 has the highest memory clock out of any single GPU card out there currently (7GHz). The Titan was the 7970 killer (by a landslide) in terms of everything except price per performance. The AMD fanboys hung onto that argument like a Krispy Kreme donut. This GTX 770 is another 7970 killer, but one that should sink into the hearts and souls of every AMD fanboy who doesn't make enough money to purchase Nvidia cards. Now all they've got is "WE'VE GOT MORE VRAM!!!1!" Well, hate to break it to you kids, but you won't be using that vram unless you're playing at higher resolutions and you'll need multiple 7970s to get enough horsepower to even support games at adequate framerates. Have fun with that Crossfire. Looks like AMD is going to have to release their 9000 series sooner than expected.


You're the only person that sounds like a fanboy on this thread lol. It's safe to call you an nVidia fanboy after that post.


Coming from a guy with an AMD avatar? Laughable. Nvidia has superior products and I can afford their beat products, so why would I not support them over AMD? If AMD produced superior products, I would purchase an AMD card.


I have an amd logo because I prefer amd, but that does not make me a fanboy.


Why do you prefer AMD? Define what a fanboy is because I sense a contradiction: you accused me of being an Nvidia fanboy for preferring Nvidia, but you're not an AMD fanboy for preferring AMD.


Can we please keep this professional, people? The AMD vs. nVidia debate isn't really going anywhere, so we need to learn to live with it without stooping to insults. In all honesty, there's not ever a "best card", just "best card at this point for this task", which can be nVidia or AMD depending on what the OP wants to do with it, what the sales are that day, and any number of other things.
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June 11, 2013 6:15:42 AM

I have 3x 7970s in trifire and it's a great set of cards. I upgraded to this from a 580GTX, which I previously upgraded from 8800 GTX SLI setup. Ignoring the heated debates on AMD/NVidia preference, there's so little separating the performance of the 2 cards that there's no clear better overall.

I know you're not looking for a multi card set-up at the moment, but if it helps to dispel any hysteria on the quality of the AMD cards and drivers then I have run my trifire set-up on many games without a single issue. I just finished Bioshock: Infinite on a very high res with ultra graphic settings and it played flawlessly throughout.

The choice between 2 cards is going to have to be about the stuff around the edges rather than pure performance as they're a close run thing. Personally I prefer the NVidia suite of driver software, but the AMD Cataylst isn't too bad either. NVidia has better 3D support via DVI as well if you have that need. You get Bioshock Infinite with the 7970, and getting that game 'free' is enough to make the 7970 a serious contender for your choice. You also get Crysis 3 and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon so it's a very good deal.

As I bought the 7970s before 7xx series was out it was a no brainer for me at the time. If I was faced with the choice now I'd probably buy 2x 780s in SLI over the 3 7970s and a third 780 in the future. As for a 1 card setup between your 2 choices; buy either of them and you'll have a blast. I'd probably lean towards the 7970 only for the game bundle, without that I'd just favour the 770 but it's really so close I doubt you'd regret either of them.
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