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900 EURO Gaming PC(Haswell build maybe?) [First time building pc]

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May 31, 2013 8:54:41 AM

Hey. This will be my first time building a pc. I will be buying the system in 12 days to 2 weeks. So lets begin! :D 

Approximate Purchase Date: 2 Weeks or less from today.
Budget Range: 900 Euros(not more)
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Talking to Skype, Surfing the internet, listening to music, watching movies.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes but its price is not included in the 900 euros.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Greek websites, since im greek. Like: plaisio.gr, public.gr, you.gr, multirama.gr, e-shop.gr

Location: Greece
Parts Preferences: CPU: i5 3570k, i5 4670k, or AMD FX 8350...? And idk if i should wait for haswell cpus to release, as i might not have the money for a haswell CPU and a good GPU...
And for GPU... AMD radeon HD 7950, or NVidia GTX 670 (any other suggestion on CPUs and GPUs will be also appreciated).
BTW i also need a good WiFi adapter cause my room is 1 floor away from the router(i heard there's no need for a wifi adapter, since some mobos have incoorporated WiFi adapters or smth like that)

Overclocking: Maybe(I want my system to last for about 3 years till i get another part so idk if i should overclock)

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe(i dont think i should spend money on more than 1 graphics card right now though.)

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 preferably. But i want a monitor that costs 130 euros or less.

Additional Comments: Will be playing games like League of Legends, Dota2, Final Fantasy XIV: A realm reborn, Portal 2, CoD: MW3, maybe Crisis 3 etc while talking at skype and maybe listening to music.

Thanks for your help.
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May 31, 2013 9:22:13 AM

Get the 3570k it will out preform the 8350 in any scenario, The gpu's are a toss up but id suggest the 670 over the 7950 as nvidia has more solid driver releases and suppourt for games that come out. Crossfire is extremely buggy at the moment and dosnt work properly so sli would be your only option in the future this might be fixed hard to say. I wouldnt use incorperated wifi adapter for gaming as it will cause your ping to sky rocket and be laggy in games due to connection issues alone
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May 31, 2013 9:30:06 AM

firo40 said:
Get the 3570k it will out preform the 8350 in any scenario, The gpu's are a toss up but id suggest the 670 over the 7950 as nvidia has more solid driver releases and suppourt for games that come out. Crossfire is extremely buggy at the moment and dosnt work properly so sli would be your only option in the future this might be fixed hard to say. I wouldnt use incorperated wifi adapter for gaming as it will cause your ping to sky rocket and be laggy in games due to connection issues alone

Ok, thanks. So now i know that i need a WiFi adapter too...
But did you see the CPUs and GPUs price?
INTEL CORE I5-3570K 3.40GHZ
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.558362
ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.513576
And the 7950 has a 3GB memory so why gtx 670?
And just these two parts cost more than 600 euros and i want my system to cost 900 at most...
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May 31, 2013 10:44:15 AM



Thanks for the build, but i asked for content from Greek sites... the sites you posted are italian and i wouldnt like to buy from another country right now... :/ 
And btw, why gtx 660ti and not 670 or 7950?
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May 31, 2013 10:49:11 AM

OverdiveKill said:


Thanks for the build, but i asked for content from Greek sites... the sites you posted are italian and i wouldnt like to buy from another country right now... :/ 
And btw, why gtx 660ti and not 670 or 7950?


i looked at the closest i could find so the prices would be similar...and u can get a 670 if it fits the budget
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May 31, 2013 10:59:13 AM



OP is in Greece, linking to stores in Italy will not help.

Here's what I would suggest:

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R - 75.50 €
PSU: Seasonic S12 II 620W - 98.88 €
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-V LE - 84.27 €
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3470 - 179.80 €
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaw X DDR3 1600 Mhz 1.5V - 69.85 €
HD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue - 63.70 €
Optical: Samsung DVD Burner - 18.90 €
Video Card: Sapphire Vapor X Radeon HD 7950 - 337.00 €

Total: 927.90 €
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May 31, 2013 11:11:29 AM

g-unit1111 said:


OP is in Greece, linking to stores in Italy will not help.

Here's what I would suggest:

Case: Corsair Carbide 300R - 75.50 €
PSU: Seasonic S12 II 620W - 98.88 €
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-V LE - 84.27 €
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3470 - 179.80 €
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaw X DDR3 1600 Mhz 1.5V - 69.85 €
HD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue - 63.70 €
Optical: Samsung DVD Burner - 18.90 €
Video Card: Sapphire Vapor X Radeon HD 7950 - 337.00 €

Total: 927.90 €


Will the PSU be ok if i want to upgrade the system in the future? And about the HDD, i wouldnt say i need 1TB... 500GB would be enough, but i would like an SSD to put windows and games in there,but seeing the price of an SSD, i think i will get one in the future. About the CPU... if i am to get 3470 and not 3570k, then why not get AMD FX 8350?
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May 31, 2013 12:18:00 PM

OverdiveKill said:

Will the PSU be ok if i want to upgrade the system in the future? And about the HDD, i wouldnt say i need 1TB... 500GB would be enough, but i would like an SSD to put windows and games in there,but seeing the price of an SSD, i think i will get one in the future. About the CPU... if i am to get 3470 and not 3570k, then why not get AMD FX 8350?


I am personally not a fan of AMD FX processors. For gaming Intel is far better especially with Radeon cards and the new NVIDIA GPUs. You can definitely add an SSD in the future. As far as the power supply - by upgrading are you talking about replacing the GPU with a newer model down the road or adding a second?
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May 31, 2013 12:20:50 PM

g-unit1111 said:
OverdiveKill said:

Will the PSU be ok if i want to upgrade the system in the future? And about the HDD, i wouldnt say i need 1TB... 500GB would be enough, but i would like an SSD to put windows and games in there,but seeing the price of an SSD, i think i will get one in the future. About the CPU... if i am to get 3470 and not 3570k, then why not get AMD FX 8350?


I am personally not a fan of AMD FX processors. For gaming Intel is far better especially with Radeon cards and the new NVIDIA GPUs. You can definitely add an SSD in the future. As far as the power supply - by upgrading are you talking about replacing the GPU with a newer model down the road or adding a second?


Well, i will need to replace the GPU/CPU/RAM some time in the future, so i guess i mean by replacing them with a newer model rather than adding another GPU. For now at least.
And if intel beats AMD in gaming too, then where are AMD CPUs good at? O.o i am confused here cause i heard that the FX 8350 was supposed to be AMDs best cpu for gaming(?)
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May 31, 2013 4:26:11 PM

OverdiveKill said:
g-unit1111 said:
OverdiveKill said:

Will the PSU be ok if i want to upgrade the system in the future? And about the HDD, i wouldnt say i need 1TB... 500GB would be enough, but i would like an SSD to put windows and games in there,but seeing the price of an SSD, i think i will get one in the future. About the CPU... if i am to get 3470 and not 3570k, then why not get AMD FX 8350?


I am personally not a fan of AMD FX processors. For gaming Intel is far better especially with Radeon cards and the new NVIDIA GPUs. You can definitely add an SSD in the future. As far as the power supply - by upgrading are you talking about replacing the GPU with a newer model down the road or adding a second?


Well, i will need to replace the GPU/CPU/RAM some time in the future, so i guess i mean by replacing them with a newer model rather than adding another GPU. For now at least.
And if intel beats AMD in gaming too, then where are AMD CPUs good at? O.o i am confused here cause i heard that the FX 8350 was supposed to be AMDs best cpu for gaming(?)


AMD CPUs are better for multimedia authoring and video editing than Intel CPUs are - to a certain extent. If you're playing games then definitely go Intel.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 31, 2013 4:37:23 PM

Wow video cards in greek are so expensive
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June 1, 2013 6:35:58 AM

Marcopolo123 said:
Wow video cards in greek are so expensive


Yes, i know right!?
Pfff...so freaking expensive...
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June 1, 2013 12:03:39 PM

OverdiveKill said:
Hmm? Would someone explain me how you buy a graphics card with games? Do you buy the graphics card you just get the games in their boxes, like you normally would when buying games? Or...(?)

Sapphire VGA PCI X 7950 VAPOR-X 3GB
http://www.plaisio.gr/ypologistes-anavathmisi/anavathmi...


No when you buy the games they give you a code to download them on Steam.
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June 1, 2013 12:07:56 PM

g-unit1111 said:
OverdiveKill said:
Hmm? Would someone explain me how you buy a graphics card with games? Do you buy the graphics card you just get the games in their boxes, like you normally would when buying games? Or...(?)

Sapphire VGA PCI X 7950 VAPOR-X 3GB
http://www.plaisio.gr/ypologistes-anavathmisi/anavathmi...


No when you buy the games they give you a code to download them on Steam.

Hmm... ok, but i am not really going to get the system to play mostly these games, i am not even planning to play them. I will play them when i have nothing else to do and when i get bored of all the ones i want to play, so i'd guess that i will go for the cheaper model(the one without the games)
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June 2, 2013 1:06:01 PM

So, i've spent most of the day looking at graphics cards on the internet. Can someone tell me which graphics card would be better for my needs?
SAPPHIRE HD7950 VAPOR-X OC 3GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.510811
Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD7950
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E14DB254CD30F...
Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 660 TI
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E1F275B8A9E85...
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E1CA70BBD8505...

I put the 660ti in there just in case someone has to say something better for it than the other cards. However, i dont think i'd like to have it because of its 2GB (i've looked at many 3GB cards) and because of its 192Bit....
Soo... thanks for your time.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 3, 2013 4:36:51 AM

Gigabyte hd 7950 :) 

Haswell cpus and socket1150 motherboards are out.
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June 3, 2013 4:55:06 AM

Really? The 7950 over the 670 too? Ok. Btw, I don'tthink I will overclock the gpu.
Can I have a link for the haswell cpus and mobos?
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June 3, 2013 11:14:34 AM

OverdiveKill said:
Hey, would you recommend the Gigabyte G1 Sniper M3 mobo for 169 euros?
http://www.plaisio.gr/ypologistes-anavathmisi/anavathmi...
but then i wont have enough money to get a good graphics card (7950) i guess...


No - if you're building a full ATX system get a full ATX board. I would go with a GTX 670 over the 7950. If you've got more cash to spend a base 7970 would be a wiser purchase but I wouldn't sacrifice GPU performance.
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June 3, 2013 12:03:48 PM

g-unit1111 said:
OverdiveKill said:
Hey, would you recommend the Gigabyte G1 Sniper M3 mobo for 169 euros?
http://www.plaisio.gr/ypologistes-anavathmisi/anavathmi...
but then i wont have enough money to get a good graphics card (7950) i guess...


No - if you're building a full ATX system get a full ATX board. I would go with a GTX 670 over the 7950. If you've got more cash to spend a base 7970 would be a wiser purchase but I wouldn't sacrifice GPU performance.

I have just 900 euros. I don't think I can get an 7970. Also, idk if I should get a full ATX board. A full board means a full tower(if im not wrong) and id like to stick to maybe mid towers. I really don't have lots of money to spend to a certain part of the pc, expert from the graphics card but I'm not really sure if I'm willing to spend over 400 euros on it, as I won't have enough money to get the other parts and here in Greece they are all expensive as ****
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June 4, 2013 1:20:26 AM

Marcopolo123 said:
80€ more not worth it.

http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/catalog/categorieInPath.do...


Asus gtx 650 ti boost is not so bad deal
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E2A82A1A3C94B...

Hmm.. there is no such a big price difference as i was expecting between haswell and the 3570k. i mean,
Intel core I5-3570K, 218 euros
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E179699060CFE...
INTEL CORE I5-4670K 238 euros.
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E2B236FA5470F...
How about the mobos? Can someone link me to the mobos?
Btw, whats the 80euros difference you spoke of?

EDIT: Also, i think that in you.gr the products cost even more than their average greek price.
INTEL CORE I5-4670K
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.558409
Lol, EDIT2: in e-shop.gr is also says "Μαζι με τον 4670Κ, παίρνετε δώρο και το παιχνίδι GRID 2!" which means "With 4670K, you also get as a gift the game GRID 2"

Also, i dont know much about mobos, but i found this one.
ASUS Z87-K RETAIL
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.523120
Would this be a good choice?
i dont think i will OC though, just asking if it would be good without OC
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June 4, 2013 10:16:34 AM

I just counted the amount i have to pay for these parts and i must say, the whole system will cost more than my budget... pfff... anything i can change?
ASUS Z87-K RETAIL
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.523120
INTEL CORE I5-4670K
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.558409
SEAGATE ST500DM002 500GB BARRACUDA 7200.12 SATA3
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.301895
Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD7950
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E14DB254CD30F...
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 PC3
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.556216
CORSAIR GAMING SERIES GS700 700W PSU(not sure if i need 700w though)
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.549984
which makes 883.57 euros......
and i also need a case, a DVD reader/writer(not sure what its called) and a wifi adapter, i think...
Whats your opinion in these cards against the 660ti?
XFX RADEON HD7870 FX-787A-CDFC DOUBLE DISSIPATION EDITION 2GB DDR5
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.519739
XFX RADEON HD7870 FX-787A-CNFC CORE EDITION 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.519738
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5-V2 2GB GDDR5
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.513612
GIGABYTE HD7870 GV-R785OC-2GD 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.516472
POWERCOLOR HD7870 PCS+ MYST 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.515776
or should i get the i5 3570k and the 7950?
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June 4, 2013 11:14:13 AM

OverdiveKill said:
I just counted the amount i have to pay for these parts and i must say, the whole system will cost more than my budget... pfff... anything i can change?
ASUS Z87-K RETAIL
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.523120
INTEL CORE I5-4670K
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.558409
SEAGATE ST500DM002 500GB BARRACUDA 7200.12 SATA3
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.301895
Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD7950
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E14DB254CD30F...
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 PC3
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.556216
CORSAIR GAMING SERIES GS700 700W PSU(not sure if i need 700w though)
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.549984
which makes 883.57 euros......
and i also need a case, a DVD reader/writer(not sure what its called) and a wifi adapter, i think...
Whats your opinion in these cards against the 660ti?
XFX RADEON HD7870 FX-787A-CDFC DOUBLE DISSIPATION EDITION 2GB DDR5
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.519739
XFX RADEON HD7870 FX-787A-CNFC CORE EDITION 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.519738
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5-V2 2GB GDDR5
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.513612
GIGABYTE HD7870 GV-R785OC-2GD 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.516472
POWERCOLOR HD7870 PCS+ MYST 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.515776
or should i get the i5 3570k and the 7950?


I'd go for the 7870 XT from Power Color or Sapphire personally. And then for case that depends on how much you want to spend.
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June 4, 2013 11:34:41 AM

g-unit1111 said:
OverdiveKill said:
I just counted the amount i have to pay for these parts and i must say, the whole system will cost more than my budget... pfff... anything i can change?
ASUS Z87-K RETAIL
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.523120
INTEL CORE I5-4670K
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.558409
SEAGATE ST500DM002 500GB BARRACUDA 7200.12 SATA3
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.301895
Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD7950
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/b2c/pd.do?pg=E14DB254CD30F...
G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 PC3
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.556216
CORSAIR GAMING SERIES GS700 700W PSU(not sure if i need 700w though)
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.549984
which makes 883.57 euros......
and i also need a case, a DVD reader/writer(not sure what its called) and a wifi adapter, i think...
Whats your opinion in these cards against the 660ti?
XFX RADEON HD7870 FX-787A-CDFC DOUBLE DISSIPATION EDITION 2GB DDR5
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.519739
XFX RADEON HD7870 FX-787A-CNFC CORE EDITION 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.519738
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5-V2 2GB GDDR5
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.513612
GIGABYTE HD7870 GV-R785OC-2GD 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.516472
POWERCOLOR HD7870 PCS+ MYST 2GB
http://www.e-shop.gr/product?id=PER.515776
or should i get the i5 3570k and the 7950?


I'd go for the 7870 XT from Power Color or Sapphire personally. And then for case that depends on how much you want to spend.


Sapphire? You mean the 7950? But as i said i dont have the money for it and the haswell and the rest parts of the system...
Why powercolor and not XFX the one with 2 fans? Powercolor has only 1 fan if im correct. And about the case... its not how much i want to spend, its how much i have to spend :p 
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June 4, 2013 12:32:01 PM

btw if you have another gpu to suggest, do so pls... not sure if the powercolor 7870 would be a better choice for a gpu... how about an nvidia card at around that price?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 4, 2013 12:36:05 PM

Asus nVidia Geforce GTX 660
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June 4, 2013 1:05:16 PM

jinayhvora said:
Asus nVidia Geforce GTX 660


You mean the 660ti?

Btw, I just thought that maybe if I get a 3570k and a mobo that costs about 90 euros anf maybe a cheap, 40 euros case I can get the gigabyte 7950. So can you suggest cases pls?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 4, 2013 1:14:22 PM

no i meant 660
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