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Best buy mobo for i3-3220 for home PC

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June 1, 2013 5:23:55 AM

to replace the dead MSI-5677 v2.1 with Pentium in old HP 754n (2G RAM, 500 GB HDD, Bestec 200W PSU in mid-ATX case, WinXP SP3, etc.)
This PC was used by my wife mainly, and I use for family photo video album/edits.
I am exploring to re/build it with Core i3-3220, then 4G DRAM probably. I wonder if I need to buy a new 380W PSU at least + Case too. I want to reuse parts I can, but willing to invest what I must, with limited budget.
Thanks for your experience based advises!

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June 1, 2013 6:09:31 AM

Lets start off with a good motherboard for your needs, since the pc will be used for very basic stuff the ASRock H77M motherboard is what you need, about $65.
I dont think your powersupply will be able to deliver enough power under a decent system load. With no videocard, optical drive and much fans installed i guess it will deliver enough, but its better to invest in a good powersupply, since it will be powering all your other hardware. Take a Rosewill RV350 PSU, about $25
Your case will be reusable. And consider looking for a SATA HDD, cause your HDD may be IDE, if not its ok to reuse the HDD.

If you are really tight on your budget why not take a AMD A4-3300 with a MSI FM2-A55M-E33 mobo, both will cost only $90 together, and it will serve you very well.
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June 1, 2013 6:32:52 AM

i3 is overkill for your needs. Go for a Pentium G2020 ($65) and the Asrock H77M ($62). 200w psu will be fine for that hardware as long as it doesn't have a proprietary atx connector.
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June 1, 2013 9:38:33 AM

@ TheMentalist,
First, thank you very much for taking time to respond to my Q's with sage responses and suggestions!
I did not listed all parts from the old 754n, e.g., Toshiba and HP DVD RW's, old IDE HDD, FDD, etc.
Yes, I have been building the list of parts in pcpartpicker,
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/yupkim/saved/1CFs

And reviewing many system builds, for references, which mostly seem to be tilt towards gaming; while my needs are aforementioned, and I may want to make it semi-MMPC/HTPC down the road.

So as shown in my partslust, I have a SATA (3Gbps) 1TB HDD in the (wish and probably inclusive) list, above, PSU and case. BTW, that is the reason why I think micro-ATX over mini- for the immediate needs.
So, I really thought about AMD A4, as shown here http://pcpartpicker.com/user/yupkim/saved/1FvQ

But all my PC's (old Dell Optiplex GX110, HP Pavilion laptop (LT), and now this Toshiba Satellite A505-S6005 LT (w/ i3-330M and other LT's for my daughter have been Intel CPU's... And I may consider adding a low/mid GPU/V card down the road when appropriate. I would even consider 64 GB SSD when it falls to < $50 and my wife gripes that it becomes too slow even for her simple use; which she did a few times with the old one already.
(Come to think of it, she may have kicked it a few times for eventual death - humor with some facts. :-)

Well, sorry for the elongated descriptions. Please note that the part list is not in priority order, as it lists the components in logical order, not in priority. As I consider a mobo among 5 or 4 stars reviewed. Most of them are proud builders whose creations have not yet worked over time to prove reliability. And the part list does not even show USB3 ports, which are desired (at least one in the rear and one in the front, etc.) So, since I have been reading TH 3+ years. I was asking here. Even in TH, most are geared to the top $ HQ. While I wish I could, my needs and $'s force me to live pragmatically and set goals for better Q and reasonable $. So even picking i3-3220 stretched my practice a bit, since it is the first year; but the situation forced me to choose and I justified by not picking 3225 and build in GP in 3220 is sufficient for another year to wait for GPU board.

In sum, I appreciate very much again for your kind reply; and wish you take a look at my pcpartpicker list above and further comment here or there.
Thanks again! Humbly...
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June 1, 2013 10:15:10 AM

Okay mate, i checked both lists of you and i really like the AMD one, but as you stated you want to go with intel. No problem, the i3 is much better in processing than the A4 anyway. So your list is pretty good, but i think you can drop that intel motherboard for the ASRock H77M which is cheaper($65) and got all the same features(like the USB you want and GPU support for the future). For the rest your list is good, the powersupply seems enough and your HDD is good too. I am trying to get the best system for you (your needs) possible mate, and your list seems good to go for(note that mobo).
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June 1, 2013 10:49:22 AM

KnowItAll said:
i3 is overkill for your needs. Go for a Pentium G2020 ($65) and the Asrock H77M ($62). 200w psu will be fine for that hardware as long as it doesn't have a proprietary atx connector.


Interesting...
AsRock H77M is one of the board I considered. Would my old P4 will work on that board before buying G2020, since this board seems to be LGA 1155 which works with i3-3220 as well. I can hardly imagine 10 yr old P4 will even sit on. :-) Also my old DRAM 2G is 2x1G 553 Mhz, so I probably need to sink into 1x4G 1600 DRAM?
In any case, that board seems to be a leading candidate for Intel CPU for me.
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June 1, 2013 10:52:27 AM

TheMentalist said:
Okay mate, i checked both lists of you and i really like the AMD one, but as you stated you want to go with intel. No problem, the i3 is much better in processing than the A4 anyway. So your list is pretty good, but i think you can drop that intel motherboard for the ASRock H77M which is cheaper($65) and got all the same features(like the USB you want and GPU support for the future). For the rest your list is good, the powersupply seems enough and your HDD is good too. I am trying to get the best system for you (your needs) possible mate, and your list seems good to go for(note that mobo).


Thanks! I should really think about AMD since it is considerably lower cost. Hmmm. But at least I have mobo selection for each. Thanks!
AMD Q: What are differences b/w MSI A55M-E33 and -P33? There is no E33 listed in pcpartpicker.
And will either of them support 802.11n? They list E-net but not WiFi. :-(
And do I need CPU cooler in either case?
Next step, will my old 553 Mhz 2 G (2x1G) DRAM work, when both mobo supports 1066/-/1600/1866 Mhz mem? If not, I need to buy at least one 4GB mem @ ~$40, right?

Sorry for continuing questions, but as I said earlier, I'd like to begin with what need be done; but need to think ahead for what's coming up and when and how my next $'s should be invested (not thrown away, I hope).
P.S. I have been reading forum; but responding to replies seem to be not quite natural process here. But I am learning.
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June 2, 2013 6:26:25 PM

No you can't use your old ram or your P4.

You need DDR3 and ideally you want it in pairs, not a single stick, for dual channel configuration. I would skip the AMD route. The Pentium will be faster, more efficient and run cooler.
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June 2, 2013 7:06:52 PM

KnowItAll said:
No you can't use your old ram or your P4.

You need DDR3 and ideally you want it in pairs, not a single stick, for dual channel configuration. I would skip the AMD route. The Pentium will be faster, more efficient and run cooler.


Thanks! Do I need a CPU cooler or not? It's cheap but messy.
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June 2, 2013 10:55:49 PM

My firstr build was a i3-2120 for $90 and a Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3V mATX for $55 both from amazon.com. That together with a SSD will have you very pleased with a home system and I used a Corsair CX430 which I got for $25 from newegg. You can get a cheaper/smaller SSD for under $100 too (even under $75). I think that would last most average home users for at least 2-5 years and it really does fly. Builds can get out of hand quickly so keep that in mind. If you are near a Microcenter check it out and don't sleep on the current or prior generation Pentium G processors either you can get a solid one for around $50. Good luck.
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June 3, 2013 9:59:28 AM

yupkim said:
KnowItAll said:
No you can't use your old ram or your P4.

You need DDR3 and ideally you want it in pairs, not a single stick, for dual channel configuration. I would skip the AMD route. The Pentium will be faster, more efficient and run cooler.


Thanks! Do I need a CPU cooler or not? It's cheap but messy.


No. Boxed cpu's come with a heatsink.

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June 3, 2013 1:22:35 PM

First, thanks to all of you who have been reading my post and trying to help!
Since it is now apparent that I need to replace with almost new system with minimum parts (if any) to be reused. I will close it here for correct use of forum, and will open a new thread in system.

In summary, I will build a basic system with AMD A4 under $300 now and consider upgrading over time. Thanks again to all! For more details for this conclusion, read on below.

As I was discovering and updating my knowledge base. I've also remembered that my daughter (who finished her ed from Rice U. gifted me her two dead HP Pavilion laptops for me to tinker with or salvage parts. Well, one of them is HP D4-2170us, having Core i5-520M 2.4 Ghz with Win7, 4 GB 1066 DRAM, 500 GB 7200 rpm HDD. So, this may be the good time to give a try with A3 to provide my wife quickly first. Most she use are emails, FB, browsing web, photos, and occasional shopping.

My next challenges arfe:
1) trying to reuse one of HDD's in the new A3 system so as to reuse the Win7 license if anything else. If I have to buy another Win license, it now seems to be Win8 with v8.1 to come in 4Q.
2) then reflow i5 mobo to revive it and rebuild into a new case.
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