Uros Grabovica :
If he's going to get a 2000$, he's not gonna go for old generation of CPUs..
I think that's a crazy awful build.
First off, 16GB RAM is not needed.
The title is:
$2000 Gaming Future-Proof PC Build. That's why I suggested 16GB RAM, he's not gonna pay 2000$ for a PC which has 8GB of RAM.
I took mid tower because it's smaller and I personally hate full tower cases. What's the point of having a huge case? Maybe there's point there for you, idk..
My friend has 7990 and I find it awesome card. I doubt you ever saw the video card in real life and it's performance. It's breath taking, I didn't see any problems, frame issues, stutter, whatsoever. It stomped GTX680 and it would stomp GTX7xx.
GTX770 is just rebranded old gen GTX680 and GTX780 is just not worth it imo!
About 5GHz, well ok, still you miss the point of the sentence. In future when this build stops being top notch, he could overclock the cpu..
Stop trolling and go somewhere else!
Uros Grabovica :
Eh, actually I was right, lol. I double checked.
So, X79 firstly recommends cost/power unffective GTX770.
GTX 770 is more expensive than HD7970GHz edition and it doesn't bring improvement. GTX770 is actually rebranded GTX680.
Then tells you to buy a PC case to make it more cost effective.
I think this is wrong, this dude didn't keep even case from his current build.
Sure he can OC later, though it doesn't look like there will be much room for it.
The point of a huge case, is that you get the future-proofness that he's wanting. As I said, if he
for instance got himself a CM HAF X, he'd most likely be able to re-use the case again and again.
He'd have lots of space for upgrades and not least huge cards like your beloved 7990. There would
be better cable-management features, which helps keep things orderly and can also improve airflow.
It's fair enough you don't like full towers, they're not for everybody. But if this thread was about you, you
would be the OP. A bigger case would furthermore allow for more easy (as well as advanced) forms of cooling for the
OC'ing you've mentioned. So to me, it all makes for a better deal in the long run, with a proper case.
Also, you'd be right that I've not held a 7990 in my hands, but now you're getting subjective.
I'm not saying it's a bad card or that it doesn't have some neat performance. I'm saying, that due to the price
and the frame latencies, it has some pretty unattractive traits for such an expensive card. I'd sooner recommend
a 7970 than 7990, which is also what you'll find recommended here:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-review,review-32693-5.html
And I also very much agree with you on the Titan. It's too expensive and doesn't offer enough of a performance
gain over many other cards to justify a purchase of it; even though it has some great features. I've also read that the
GTX 690 stands up pretty well to the 7990 in terms of FPS, but also uses less power and is a bit quieter. There's also
less of a frame latency in the Nvidia cards tested, as I've mentioned before:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-7990-review-benchmark,review-32675-18.html
And if you go back a little in that article, there's also some gamers who comment on which feels more smooth; the
GTX 690 or Radeon 7990. The GTX 690 won out in all cases. Granted, the 7990 was running on prototype drivers or
so, but apparently AMD will only be releasing the full drivers in the
second half of 2013. . .
But when we combine the quantitative data enabled by video capture-based performance analysis and the subjective judgments of a panel of gaming enthusiasts who simply want to play their favorite titles on the best hardware possible, Nvidia’s thousand-dollar GeForce GTX 690 outshines the similarly-priced Radeon HD 7990. Our early look at AMD’s prototype driver suggests that more evenly pacing the rate at which frames are shown on-screen helps minimize frame time variance, which our gamers definitely noticed. But that release isn’t expected for months—the second half of 2013 is as specific as AMD gets.
I know what he said about 2k$ and future-proof. But if what you've said you wanted to do (not
use up his entire budget) then 16GB RAM doesn't make so much sense. Games run optimally with 8GB
and it's usually only if you're into using programs like Maya or 3ds Max or Photoshop heavily, that you
want to go over that, just for some extra buffering (despite 8GB being recommended for at least photoshop
I believe).
As for the GTX 770 being a power inefficient card; I don't know where you're getting that from. If you
look here, you'll see it performs better than a 7970 at the very least:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,review-32698-25.html
You're right that the GTX 770 is much the same as the GTX 680; but that alone doesn't make it a bad card.
Here's the cheapest Radeon 7970 I could find:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-ax79703gbd52dhv3
Here's the cheapest GTX 780 I could find:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7020110p
Here's the cheapest GTX 770 I could find:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7030110p
And lastly here's a benchmark between all of them:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU13/583
For BF3 at least, with all graphical settings at Max, both the GTX 770 and 80 have more
FPS than the 7970. But of course that comes at a heavy pricing too. So in that regard you're
right that the GTX is cost ineffective. But power? I don't think so. But you're wrong in that it doesn't
bring an improvement.
And to top it all off, here's a build which would save you around 1k$ for your next build, while still giving you
some really great performance and such. You can add in a monitor, keyboard etc. etc. as you see fit:
PCPartPicker part list /
Price breakdown by merchant /
Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($170.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1188.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-01 21:54 EDT-0400)
But if you want the complete set:
PCPartPicker part list /
Price breakdown by merchant /
Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($93.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($170.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($125.00 @ Mechanical Keyboards)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Optical Mouse ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1527.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-01 21:57 EDT-0400)
Then you'll wind up with a great keyboard, monitor and mouse, which you can re-use for your future builds too.
You'll still be saving 500$, as there's no really wasted parts. You can even OC the CPU too, when it gets to
that point.
P.S. I'm not trolling.