5 years on and not much has changed

sancco · Jun 1, 2013

So I used to have an E8400 Core2Duo that lasted 2 years before it started to show its age, yet here I am 5 years after the release of the i7 920 and the one I have still smashes every game and application I throw at it. Why is it that I don't need much more horsepower this far down the line?

Is Haswell going to be that much more powerful than an i7 920, or have innovations by Intel been sharply steered towards power and efficiency the last 5 years?

Thanks in advance

jaguarskx · Jun 1, 2013

The increase in performance from Ivy Bridge to Haswell is relatively small.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-review,3521.html

sancco · Jun 1, 2013

What I'm asking is if these small gains each generation have been the case for the last 5 years, because I can say for sure that the leap from Core2Duo to i7 was quite significant. Furthermore, if this is the case, is it expected to continue for the next however many years? Or will performance become front and centre again soon.

youcanDUit · Jun 1, 2013

sancco :

i have an i7 as well. i don't think an upgrade is necessary for another few years. i'm going to try to wait it out for as long as i can. hopefully, by then, ARM/QualCOMM/and amd become better competitors forcing intel to make hexa and octa cores standard issue.

PapaCrazy · Jun 1, 2013

Very disappointing weekend for me hearing about Haswell. Moore's law looks dead and I'm not sure that's as much due to technology limitations as a conscious choice at Intel about priorities. Everything is about low-power now, and I think we're paying for that as enthusiasts. I'd rather go back to 32nm if it means having a more enthusiast-aimed chip with higher OCs and, ironically enough, less heat. The architecture improvements will now always be given mutually with lower power requirements, thus reducing the ability to OC the chip and maximize the capability of the architecture for speed. Sacrificing speed for efficiency. My computer is like an exotic performance car to me, and I am willing to sacrifice energy use for speed because a computer is the most important tool I have, I don't want the CPU equivalent of a i-4 hybrid civic, and am feeling forced into that. Desktop architecture and mobile architecture imho needs to be separated. Desktops should follow enthusiast/sever development closer, and leave this 22nm/16nm/12nm low voltage stuff to a separate line of chips. Let them actually develop their Atom line and leave the quad core desktops alone.

And just as the OP has stated, I think that the Bloomfield/Sandy Bridge era will become legendary in CPU history, offering massive performance leap that is still relevant and competitive with today's chips. I love the 2600k in my system, its a hero chip, and I don't plan on changing it up until Intel gives me another chip to get excited about.

And just so you know we're not alone: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1738542

sancco · Jun 1, 2013

PapaCrazy :

Very disappointing weekend for me hearing about Haswell. Moore's law looks dead and I'm not sure that's as much due to technology limitations as a conscious choice at Intel about priorities. Everything is about low-power now, and I think we're paying for that as enthusiasts. I'd rather go back to 32nm if it means having a more enthusiast-aimed chip with higher OCs and, ironically enough, less heat. The architecture improvements will now always be given mutually with lower power requirements, thus reducing the ability to OC the chip and maximize the capability of the architecture for speed. Sacrificing speed for efficiency. My computer is like an exotic performance car to me, and I am willing to sacrifice energy use for speed because a computer is the most important tool I have, I don't want the CPU equivalent of a i-4 hybrid civic, and am feeling forced into that. Desktop architecture and mobile architecture imho needs to be separated. Desktops should follow enthusiast/sever development closer, and leave this 22nm/16nm/12nm low voltage stuff to a separate line of chips. Let them actually develop their Atom line and leave the quad core desktops alone.

And just as the OP has stated, I think that the Bloomfield/Sandy Bridge era will become legendary in CPU history, offering massive performance leap that is still relevant and competitive with today's chips. I love the 2600k in my system, its a hero chip, and I don't plan on changing it up until Intel gives me another chip to get excited about.

And just so you know we're not alone: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1738542

very detailed and insightful answer, thank you PapaCrazy

PapaCrazy · Jun 1, 2013

Thanks man, my pleasure. I was looking for a place to rant and glad I could find a thread where it might be tolerated. BTW, no slant on 4-banger honda drivers, I got one myself! But my computer is a whole different thing. My computer needs to be fast.

Mousemonkey · Jun 2, 2013

I am still using an E8400 in my donkey rig and a 2600k in my gaming rig and this thread made me smile, I feel your pain Sancco I really do!

ASHISH65 · Jun 2, 2013

Mousemonkey :

:lol:

Mousemonkey · Jun 2, 2013

ASHISH65 :

What? You don't have a beast of burden rig?

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