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June 1, 2013 7:55:53 PM

The reason I don't want any SSD from Samsung is because last year I bought a 830 SSD and I've been very dissapointed about it's performance. Is not as fast as my three year old Intel 2.5-Inch 160 GB X25-M and I know there's nothing wrong with my PC. Also the SSD Magician doesn't work at all and it gets stuck.
I was eager to buy the Intel SSD 520 but I'm dissapointed about its performance from the charts I've seen.
If you had to choose the absolute best SSD drive and Samsung was not an option which SSD drive would you choose. I'm very tempted to buy the OCZ Vector. Any opinions or suggestions? Thanks!

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June 1, 2013 7:58:22 PM

Crucial m4 is a very reliable option.
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June 1, 2013 8:03:11 PM

ksham beat me to it but yes Crucial M4 is a beast and you can't go wrong with OCZ either.

Make sure you avoid Mushkin
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June 1, 2013 8:13:12 PM

Crucial M4 has a very high failure rate. Me for one. I wish I read the customer comments before buying. I was able to get my money back. The M4 would load windows OK but would wig out during windows updates. After three tries it just died. I ended up getting an OCZ Agility 4, 512GB that was on-sale for $300 at newegg and haven't looked back since. Upped my Windows experience index a lot! I'm now at 7.2 because my GTX 295 graphics card is the lowest at 7.2.
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June 1, 2013 8:18:46 PM

@spooky2th: What percentage of Crucial m4 result in the "high failure rate"? If you're comparing reviews on Newegg, they aren't always trustworthy. And you'll need to compare similar population groups. A 10/10 on a SSD isn't necessarily better than 90/100 in a different SSD in terms reviews. Higher sales result in more DOA, user errors, etc.. Don't base it off of customer reviews.
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June 1, 2013 8:33:00 PM

IMO, the customer comments are a good way to gauge if something is reliable or not. If you want reliability, get one of the newer models. Crucial and the rest are constantly making improvements.
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June 1, 2013 8:40:54 PM

True; but from Newegg, there is about 800 customer reviews for the Crucial one with an average score or 4/5. That is good. Customer reviews are also skewed because not everyone share their experience. It can also be skewed toward people who write reviews because they had a bad experience. I for one rarely write feedback on Amazon or Newegg about something that works to specification. Though if I am frustrated or not happy about something that I paid for, I may leave a negative feedback. Thus I am impacting the product rating whereas others who have had good experiences choose not to leave a positive feedback to perhaps nullify my bad score.

Also, out of 800 reviews for the Crucial m4, there are only 220 for the Samsung 840 Pro 128GB. The Samsung one has an average rating of 5/5. Statistically, it is better than the Crucial m4. But since the pool count is a bit smaller, it's hard to gauge and say that the Samsung is better based only on customer reviews. It's not impossible for 20 customers to write a bad review to drop the 5/5 to a 4/5. Even the Samsung one has some bad reviews.
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June 1, 2013 8:50:43 PM

The M4 is older than the samsung 840pro model which has not been sold to the public as long and this is probably the only factor in that there are more comments for the M4. The 840pro series is proving it's self to be an excellent choice for an SSD. The M4 not so much.

I'm just saying, giving my opinion/perspective which is all you can get from anybody. Not intending to argue.

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Also, the M4 I purchased that had more bad comments than the one you mentioned is not available any longer at newegg.
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June 1, 2013 8:55:09 PM

I sincerely apologize if I came on too strongly. I do not wish to argue against your opinion or perspective. But if what you say is true, I would like to learn why and if Crucial m4 really is unreliable, I will refrain from recommending them in the future.

That said, Samsung 840 Pro is the best on the market. But OP doesn't want Samsung. Is the Crucial m4 really a bad recommendation? I have one and while it runs perfectly for me, it isn't a general consensus. Any product can run fine for any one individual. Even the worst of them all can.

I can say that it is no where near as fast as some of the newer SSDs out there. But I find it to be a very reliable option if OP has bad luck with SSDs.
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June 1, 2013 10:24:51 PM

Could also be a case of "OCZ Syndrome" with bad feedback on the M4, at the time the Vertex 3 was around it was smashed in consumer feedback for issues and relatively few other drives received this treatment. However it was no more buggy than another drive, its just that at the time everyone bought OCZ so it was over-represented in the issues it had.
For a while (basically until the 830 came out) the M4 was the drive to get, could be the same situation.

But back to the original question.
The Crucial M4 from what I understand is one of the most reliable drives on the market, except for that 4000 hour (cant remember exact number) firmware bug that was fixed in a firmware update. However I wouldnt get it, it has a great track record but also a long one, newer drives just perform better.

Since Samsung is ruled out, would go for the OCZ Vector. I have a Vertex 4 and its served me very well.

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June 1, 2013 10:30:11 PM

Thank you all for your answers. Yes, I will buy the newest SSD from OCZ that being the OCZ Vector. I have also read great reviews for that SSD.
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June 2, 2013 4:56:34 AM

sonic123 said:
The reason I don't want any SSD from Samsung is because last year I bought a 830 SSD and I've been very dissapointed about it's performance. Is not as fast as my three year old Intel 2.5-Inch 160 GB X25-M and I know there's nothing wrong with my PC. Also the SSD Magician doesn't work at all and it gets stuck.
I was eager to buy the Intel SSD 520 but I'm dissapointed about its performance from the charts I've seen.
If you had to choose the absolute best SSD drive and Samsung was not an option which SSD drive would you choose. I'm very tempted to buy the OCZ Vector. Any opinions or suggestions? Thanks!


I own a Crucial M4-512, a Samsung 840 PRO - 512; OWC Mercury Electra - 940GB.

I purchased the Crucial first, and though it performs well, if you plan to have your system operating for a large period of time, forget it. My machine is a 24/7, and after about 3-4 weeks, I guess their garbage collection cant keep up and the drive 'loses' its partition info. Then you have to power the system on for 2h in BIOS mode (powered on but no drive activity) for it to catch up and 'find' its partition info, which it does, but that is not the way I want my valuable data being handled.

The Samsung and the OWC went in the same machine (out with the M4) and have been humming along for about 3 months now without a glitch. Performance wise the Samsung does not disappoint, with the OWC being moderate on speed, it is huge on space and redundancy.

So, since you find Samsung out, I'd say you should at least have a look at OWC.

Good luck with your search.

PS - In dealing with the M4, I dealt with their tech support, even replaced the drive with a new drive (not a refurb.) and the same problem was seen.
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June 2, 2013 5:01:44 AM

ksham said:
I sincerely apologize if I came on too strongly. I do not wish to argue against your opinion or perspective. But if what you say is true, I would like to learn why and if Crucial m4 really is unreliable, I will refrain from recommending them in the future.

That said, Samsung 840 Pro is the best on the market. But OP doesn't want Samsung. Is the Crucial m4 really a bad recommendation? I have one and while it runs perfectly for me, it isn't a general consensus. Any product can run fine for any one individual. Even the worst of them all can.

I can say that it is no where near as fast as some of the newer SSDs out there. But I find it to be a very reliable option if OP has bad luck with SSDs.


I agree, owning both drives, the M4 is a bad choice (maybe not bad as much as 'risky') if you have a system that will be in use for most of the day. The Samsung 840 Pro would be my choice as well, but OWC is a good, and reliable (not exceptionally fast) choice.
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June 2, 2013 5:21:34 AM

sonic123 -

1. What exactly did you mean when you posted that your Samsung 830 SATA 3 6Gb/s solid state drive is not as fast as you Intel X25-M SATA 2 3Gb/s solid state drive? Please be very specific.

2. What is the brand and model of your motherboard?

3. The OCZ Vector is not the newest OCZ solid state drive.
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June 2, 2013 5:26:28 AM

3. No, but its their premium model at the current time (ignoring things like the Revo's of course).
Minor technicality.
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June 2, 2013 2:56:44 PM

I think Johnny and I are thinking alike.

Sonic, I'm going to guess that you either dont have a proper sata3 motherbd or you are not in ahci mode - and none of these new drives are going to outperform the xm25 that you have. By proper sata3 motherbd I mean one that has it built into the chipset (intel or amd), not one using an external chip like marvel, asmedia ...

edit: the xm-25 is a sata2 ssd for reference.
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