1000 dollar build soon

hopeandcarnage

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Approximate Purchase Date: Within 2 weeks, probably less

Budget Range: 1000ish, lower is better, no more than 1100

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, Word Processing (the big power user in the bunch :D)

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: I am not reusing anything, with one exception. A friend gave me a brand new 60gb SSD that I want to put my OS and such on. I still want a big spinning disk.

Do you need to buy OS: No. My school has a upgraded subscription to Microsoft Dreamspark and so I get access to all their OSs for at least 4 more years.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg mostly, will do others as long as they are reliable and cheaper.
Location: Wilsonville, OR. I have a frys nearby, but there isn't a Microcenter even close.

Parts Preferences:I have gone AMD for my first build, and so I am thinking Intel for this one.

Overclocking: In the future.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe yes, Maybe no.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024- I hope to move up to 1920x1080 or something similar in the near future.

Additional Comments: Games will be many past titles (Mass Effect, the Fallout series, ect. I have been out of the loop for a while). I would like to be able to play most games that come out in the next 3-4 years. I do not care about graphical quality near so much as I care about longevity.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Because my old computer cost 450 bucks about 4 years ago and only gotten a marginally better graphics card since then, I went with 32 bit windows XP so i'm limited to 3.25 Gb of RAM etc.

A little backstory- I built the computer I am typing this on a few years ago for as little as possible. It had a HD 4650 and still has an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+. It still works pretty well. However, I have had a rather large influx of cash recently and I want to upgrade. There are a few things I am not asking for help deciding on.

For example, I will be going with an i5 3570K or whatever comparable processor Haswell brings to bear. However, I would really appreciate a bit of help on the
graphics especially, because I am not sure what I need.

Notes:
1. I am not particular to AMD or Nvidia, but if the race is even in all other respects I will go with Nvidia because it seems like an eventual SLI would be slightly less of a hassle than Crossfire. However, this is the least of my deciding factors.
2. There are a few pieces of my build that I am not interested in changing. The main example of this is the case. I like it, and so I'm buying it.
3. I know you want to get rid of the wireless, but it is the only option and our internet is fast enough that it really doesn't bother me. The 50ish ping i normally get doesn't bother me.
4. I am significantly more interested in raw performance than most other things. I sure don't care if everything is perfect as long as it all works and pumps out the frames. I am also willing to do a little extra work to save some dough.

Without any further ado, here is the build.

Intel Core i5-3570K-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 - $220

NZXT Phantom PHAN-002OR Newegg Exclusive Black Finish w/Orange Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146073 =$120

APEVIA ATX-AQ700W-BK 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148040 -$65

Rosewill RNX-N300X IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE 802.11n Draft 2.0 PCI Wireless Adapter (2T3R) Up to 300Mbps Wireless Download Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, WPA PSK and WPA2 PSK (TKIP and AES) Vista/Win7-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166051 -$25

ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 -$140

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007 -$8

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314- $65

Also included- a 1TB HDD from either WD Caviar Blue or Seagate-80

A DVD reader/writer -$20

What's left? Graphics, of course!

My original plan was to do a 650ti boost 2gb SLI because of the reviews I had read about how well they did together. Then the GTX 770 rocked my world. I would love one, but it is a bit out of ye olde budget.
Possibilities
-A 7950- because of the amazing overclockability
-A 670 when they come down in price
-A 760ti, depending on what performance numbers it is getting.
-??? something I haven't thought of?

I would like to go with the most powerful card possible because I am hoping not to touch this build for several years. I am a broke college student and this particular influx of cash will not come again soon, I think. We have to make due with what we have, don't we?

Thanks all for the help. I have spend many hours at this and I am still having trouble figuring out what I should be doing.
 
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Ehhh , If OCing isn't your hobby and you will do it for good performance , Instead leave it and get a Xeon Rig like this -

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Intel 62205ANHMWDTX1 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($33.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1092.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-02 02:39 EDT-0400)
 


You can fit a 770 in, if you squeeze a bit. However, would you be willing to wait a few more days for a build recommendation? The new Intel processors drop tomorrow, and it will take us a little while to pin down the most efficient ones.

Additional question: Would you be willing to consider the Phantom 410? It comes in the same colour scheme as the Phantom you have there, costs less, and has USB 3.0 ports.
 


We shouldn't really be telling people not to OC, if they want to. Also, you could fit OC into that build (which I wouldn't recommend to OP, I must admit) by swapping the Dominator for low profile 1600mhz Vengeance and the PSU for an XFX Core edition 550w.
 

hopeandcarnage

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Well, I appreciate the help guys.

Here is the updated build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/12d1X

I went with the phantom 410, and went to Haswell. I figure that it would probably be better to get the newest socket possible to make upgrading that much easier later.

As far as the Xeon goes, I was impressed by what I saw, but I would like to have the capability of overclocking. It has been something I have always wanted to experiment with, but my current CPU is absolutely crap as far as OC goes. The experts were getting 6% increases.

For graphics, I am going to wait and see what the previous gen of Nvidia and AMD's stuff does before I decide. I might end up with a GTX 670, or a 7970, or a 7950, or something similar. It all depends on what fits in the budget.

Thanks for the help. Any further advice about the graphics or the current iteration would be appreciated.
 


Much as I hate to push for buying rather than waiting for potential price drops, there are already two quite excellent options for cut-priced cards: This 7950, for what one would normally pay for a 7870 XT (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003523l), and this 7970 GHz Edition for around the price of a 670 (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100351vxsr). That said, more good options may make themselves known in coming days, if you choose to wait.

Also, I can't recall if you actually have Microcenter access, but if not, you might consider this combo from Newegg for CPU+mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1326095&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
 
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My pleasure.

Sapphire is an excellent brand, so you made a good call initially.

Good luck and happy gaming!