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i5 4670k or i5 3570k for gaming?

Im gonna upgrade from a i7 920 and would like to know how much performance increase would i see in a i5 4670k than a i5 3570k? not planning on overclocking and the haswell seems to only be 20 bucks more than the ivy on newegg so about how much better is it? Thanks in advance.
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  1. If you're not planning to overclock don't get one with a k in it. They are both the same performance for gaming, but haswell uses less watts and is more future proof.
  2. MJSBLUES said:
    If you're not planning to overclock don't get one with a k in it. They are both the same performance for gaming, but haswell uses less watts and is more future proof.


    How is it more future proof if you said they both have the same performance? and thanks i'll get the non k version.
  3. lord hircine said:
    MJSBLUES said:
    If you're not planning to overclock don't get one with a k in it. They are both the same performance for gaming, but haswell uses less watts and is more future proof.


    How is it more future proof if you said they both have the same performance? and thanks i'll get the non k version.

    Since it has new technology in it that programs will utilize in the future. Also the slot is the newer one, and the next line of CPU's will possibly use that slot again.
  4. go with the one that's cheaper. performance difference will be small enough for you to not notice for gaming
  5. lord hircine said:
    Im gonna upgrade from a i7 920 and would like to know how much performance increase would i see in a i5 4670k than a i5 3570k? not planning on overclocking and the haswell seems to only be 20 bucks more than the ivy on newegg so about how much better is it? Thanks in advance.


    I agree with MJS. You're better off to get the Haswell as it will give you more possible upgrade paths in the future and has newer tech.
  6. Adding 20 bucks is worth buying !!!

    If you will gonna add 40-100 bucks. duh !! don't be hassle with haswell ... hahaha :lol:
  7. 20$? Haswell
    Then you wont need to replace mobo to BW. Same 1150 socket.
    Go with non K for no OCing. IB to HW is about 1% diff in gaming right now but you get more of other stuff. I doubt preformance will change in the future.

    I hope that AMD makes something useful so Intel is going to start making better stuff again. While AMD is behind nothing is going to change. Period.

    Another possible choice is that you stay with your i7 and get better GPU. You will get more (gtx770/7970/7950 vs new CPU, new mobo, new... New GPU wins anyway). <-------best one I think
  8. Haswell is a reboot with higher power draw across the entire system...you'll get the same performance from the i5-3570k. Sure it's a dead socket...but if you upgrade every 2 years, 1150 will be dead when you upgrade again anyway.

    Here are the benches to prove it...read through the thread:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1692778/ivy-bridge-haswell.html
  9. I would just save your money, get a good cooler and learn to overclock. i7 920 is still a very capable CPU.
  10. logainofhades said:
    I would just save your money, get a good cooler and learn to overclock. i7 920 is still a very capable CPU.


    +1

    Unless you are at the real high end, with GPU like a Titan 690/7990 then i7 920 with a overclock will be fine.
  11. Haswell is a reboot with higher power draw across the entire
  12. hncvzxvmvhao said:
    Haswell is a reboot with higher power draw across the entire


    ctrl+c, ctrl+v fail?
  13. Intel Core i5-3570K advantages

    -This microprocessor has unlocked clock multiplier. The CPU can be freely overclocked on most motherboards if greater performance is required.
    -The Intel i5-3570K is 8% more energy efficient.

    Intel Core i5-4670K advantages

    -Single-threaded performance of the CPU is higher.
    -The Intel Core i5-4670K is 6% faster in multi-threaded programs.
    -Memory performance of the processor is better.
    -The i5-4670K includes AVX2 instructions, introduced in the recent past. These extensions are not broadly used by applications yet, but their support should improve in future apps.
    -FMA3 instructions are enabled on this CPU. This technology is only available on AMD microprocessors, for that reason it may not get broad support from software vendors.
    -The 4670K is less energy efficient under load, because Intel integrated VRM on the chip. It has lower idle power, but the comparison is for the maximum power consumption. Total system power consumption could be the same, though, but I can't confirm it.

    Link: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/579/Intel_Core_i5_i5-3570K_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-4670K.html

    In my opinion:
    - (With Overclocking)
    If you plan to upgrade sooner than 2 years go 1150, if not go 1155 as in 2 years 1150 will propably/might change. Keep in mind the increased price of a 1150 motherboard as it is new. New is nice but it is untested also. There is not a big difference between them in performance. Personaly I'd go with 3570K as it is "safer", easier and more "boostable" to overclocked and I'd go to an upgrade after 2 years as 3570K I believe it'd keep me up in gaming for that time.

    - (Without overclocking) Don't go for a "K" as mentioned from poster above. Play safe and go with 1150 so you got the option of upgrading in near future if not pleased with 4670K (and have a procceessor with good aftersale price for the near future).
  14. For the CPU as well (see what i did there?) as the mobo, the price difference is very small. I just got my 4670k for 240$, and a great, feature-packed Asus Z87-A for 145$. Both from NCIX btw. Going for a 3570k and a less feature-packed z77 mobo would have been a 15$ economy. So it was not worth it.
  15. lord hircine said:
    MJSBLUES said:
    If you're not planning to overclock don't get one with a k in it. They are both the same performance for gaming, but haswell uses less watts and is more future proof.


    How is it more future proof if you said they both have the same performance? and thanks i'll get the non k version.

    he means it will probably support more features in the future for example sandy bridge doesn't support pci 3.0
  16. By the time PCI-E 3.0 is necessary, with the exception of very high end rigs, the system would be ready for an upgrade anyway. There isn't a single card solution out there that can even saturate a 2.0 x16 lane yet. Most cards don't even see a performance hit on good old 1.1. For a quad sli or CF type config 3.0 might be nice, but for the vast majority of setups, it is totally unnecessary.
  17. I would only go with Haswell if you intend to get its successor as soon as it comes out. (forget the code name for the tock for 1150) If planning on no CPU upgrades for 2-3yrs, go with the 3570k.
  18. MJSBLUES said:
    lord hircine said:
    MJSBLUES said:
    If you're not planning to overclock don't get one with a k in it. They are both the same performance for gaming, but haswell uses less watts and is more future proof.


    How is it more future proof if you said they both have the same performance? and thanks i'll get the non k version.



  19. MJSBLUES said:
    lord hircine said:
    MJSBLUES said:
    If you're not planning to overclock don't get one with a k in it. They are both the same performance for gaming, but haswell uses less watts and is more future proof.


    How is it more future proof if you said they both have the same performance? and thanks i'll get the non k version.

    Since it has new technology in it that programs will utilize in the future. Also the slot is the newer one, and the next line of CPU's will possibly use that slot again.


    not the case. broadwell wil be oem only so no upgrade there. skylake will be on a new socket. so 1150 will only ever be good for haswell. also the only technology it has on it vs an ivy is a better onboard graphics chip, which no gamer cares about since we all use discreet cards.
  20. RobCrezz said:
    logainofhades said:
    I would just save your money, get a good cooler and learn to overclock. i7 920 is still a very capable CPU.


    +1

    Unless you are at the real high end, with GPU like a Titan 690/7990 then i7 920 with a overclock will be fine.


    you forget not everyone only plays crysis and bf3. in really cpu intensive games like most mmos, total war series and planetside 2 among others; you cant cheap out on a cpu and simply just get a titan. for example in planetside 2 you get no difference in frames between a 7870 and a titan. the game is cpu bound. ill take the highest cpu possible anyday over the "best" gpu
  21. Everyone like using the term future proof as if there was such a thing. Get the i5-2500K Sandy Bridge if you want to future proof, that was before the i5-3570K IVY Bridge came out and then that was the go to future proofer now it's the Haswell that's the future. Well guess what ? I have a i5-2500k on a Asus Maximus Extreme-Z that's good for the next 3 years or longer and I have a i7 3770K on a Asus P8Z77-WS that is also good for that long or longer. People get really caught up on whatever is new and forget about serviceability. Take GPU's for example the GTX 6 series only came out in 2012 but a year later people are already dismissing them for the 7 series.
  22. future proofing ??? well in todays era thats a joke ........ no matter wat u take in 2015 or 16 ull see a intel skylake processors 9th gen . very small...... pci 4.0 n ddr4 .............n in next year ull see more cpus better n smaller........ so take wats better for now .... i personally wud go for haswell 4670k dont think bout future proofing ths cpu will be more than enogh for next 4 years if ur not a updating freak ... but 3570 might outdate before haswell i guess
  23. Kurosaki Luffy said:
    future proofing ??? well in todays era thats a joke ........ no matter wat u take in 2015 or 16 ull see a intel skylake processors 9th gen . very small...... pci 4.0 n ddr4 .............n in next year ull see more cpus better n smaller........ so take wats better for now .... i personally wud go for haswell 4670k dont think bout future proofing ths cpu will be more than enogh for next 4 years if ur not a updating freak ... but 3570 might outdate before haswell i guess


    Well. that was painful to read. :pfff: Given how little performance has increased each gen since X58, future proofing to an extent is a possible. A high end rig today will still be quite capable in 3-5yrs at this current rate of less than 10% bumps each gen. We have people with i7 920's that are just now finally upgrading. Some are still satisfied with the performance they have and are holding off till broadwell or skylake. Hell, there are people just now finally getting rid of their C2Q's for Ivy and Haswell. For enthusiasts, keeping a cpu more than 2yrs was a rarity just a few years ago.
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