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Looking to do first build ever. Want a gaming rig.

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June 3, 2013 5:16:28 PM

Hey all,

I will soon be attempting my first gaming rig build. I have a budget of about $550-$750 at this time. Maye get up to $850, but time will tell. This is the CPU I am looking at for now.......http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am wanting to play ARMA 2, Skyrim, Tomb raider, and a few others. WOuld the listed CPu be a good choice for me or should I go intel? Any suggestions component suggestions for the rig? I'm more than likely going to use my WDC 500GB that I use in my current rig plus my Lite-on dh16absh multi drive. I just want a suggestion for a mobo, preferred ram, graphics, and whatever else you can suggest.

Keep in mind I mosly wanna run ARMA 2 and Day Z as solid as possible. ANy help is appreciated!

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June 3, 2013 5:39:41 PM

The two games you named there are very CPU-bound, not so much graphics bound. I would strongly consider building a rig around an i5-3570k, Hyper 212 EVO, and an AsRock z77 Extreme 4.
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June 3, 2013 5:48:22 PM

DarkSable said:
The two games you named there are very CPU-bound, not so much graphics bound. I would strongly consider building a rig around an i5-3570k, Hyper 212 EVO, and an AsRock z77 Extreme 4.


Do you know average temp of the i5-3570k without overclocking and about the average after doing so with the Hypser 212 evo?

And would you say this is my best route case wise? > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 3, 2013 6:20:47 PM

Still looking for a good gpu to match up with the hyper 212, i5-3570k, and the asrock z77. Any suggestions? I should be set after I find a good gpu. I don't need a noisy piece either lol
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June 3, 2013 6:36:41 PM

I suggest the GTX 660 or the GTX 670 depending on your budget. Also if you are a Radeon guy the 7870 XT is a beast and is around the midpoint of the 660 and the 670! :) 
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June 3, 2013 6:50:12 PM

boondox270 said:
DarkSable said:
The two games you named there are very CPU-bound, not so much graphics bound. I would strongly consider building a rig around an i5-3570k, Hyper 212 EVO, and an AsRock z77 Extreme 4.


Do you know average temp of the i5-3570k without overclocking and about the average after doing so with the Hypser 212 evo?

And would you say this is my best route case wise? > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Great pick on the case, and I couldn't tell you the temps of the i5 under those conditions off the top of my head, but I can tell you that with a good chip, my hyper 212 + with an aftermarket fan got my chip to 4.4v quite easily with no issues with temperatures.

If you can find them, the new 770s coming out are bloody amazing... but also expensive. If you need a more budget option, the 7870 XT as has been suggested is a great card.

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June 3, 2013 7:14:49 PM

boondox270 said:
DarkSable said:
The two games you named there are very CPU-bound, not so much graphics bound. I would strongly consider building a rig around an i5-3570k, Hyper 212 EVO, and an AsRock z77 Extreme 4.


Do you know average temp of the i5-3570k without overclocking and about the average after doing so with the Hypser 212 evo?

And would you say this is my best route case wise? > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I will be able to answer this (to a certain degree of accuracy, as we probably have different cases/fans/other devices heating the case temp and ambient temps) in a few days as I have a 3570K and have ordered the 212 evo, but with the stock cooler @3.8GHz Turbo (or whatever that is) temps reach 50 - 60 in Skyrim on full quality (with the GTX 670 to back it up), load is around 65%(for two cores) in game and Vcore is 1.129V, FPS about 75. Overclocked to 4.5GHz with stock cooler (I know the risks!) Temps 65 - 75, same 65% load(for two cores), and Vcore at 1.188V, FPS about 80. At 100% load (Prime95) the temps soar into the high 80s to low 90s @4.5GHz, but a load like that on all four cores doesn't seem likely. Obviously this is risky and I'm not saying you should OC with stock, but the difference in frames was only 5ish. Still, the temps with the 212 EVO will be undoubtly cooler. In my overall opinion, the 3570K is excellent, performs well, but tends to run hot, especially when overclocking (like many people have said before).
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June 3, 2013 7:46:49 PM

PyjamasCat said:
boondox270 said:
DarkSable said:
The two games you named there are very CPU-bound, not so much graphics bound. I would strongly consider building a rig around an i5-3570k, Hyper 212 EVO, and an AsRock z77 Extreme 4.


Do you know average temp of the i5-3570k without overclocking and about the average after doing so with the Hypser 212 evo?

And would you say this is my best route case wise? > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I will be able to answer this (to a certain degree of accuracy, as we probably have different cases/fans/other devices heating the case temp and ambient temps) in a few days as I have a 3570K and have ordered the 212 evo, but with the stock cooler @3.8GHz Turbo (or whatever that is) temps reach 50 - 60 in Skyrim on full quality (with the GTX 670 to back it up), load is around 65%(for two cores) in game and Vcore is 1.129V, FPS about 75. Overclocked to 4.5GHz with stock cooler (I know the risks!) Temps 65 - 75, same 65% load(for two cores), and Vcore at 1.188V, FPS about 80. At 100% load (Prime95) the temps soar into the high 80s to low 90s @4.5GHz, but a load like that on all four cores doesn't seem likely. Obviously this is risky and I'm not saying you should OC with stock, but the difference in frames was only 5ish. Still, the temps with the 212 EVO will be undoubtly cooler. In my overall opinion, the 3570K is excellent, performs well, but tends to run hot, especially when overclocking (like many people have said before).


Thanks for the info. I just need to figure out whch power supply i will get and I think I'm set. Suggestions?

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June 3, 2013 7:53:32 PM

Any Seasonic OEM - the G-series by seasonic is good, the X-series is possibly the best line of power supplies ever made. In terms of rebranded Seasonic OEM's, all of XFX's and many of Corsair's power supplies are made by them. Antec is another good brand, if the above are hard to find.
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June 3, 2013 7:58:29 PM

This is what I am thinking so far....

CPU: i5-3570L
Ram: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1
CPU Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4
HDD: WDC 500 GB (Already on current rig
Optical: Liteon DH 16ABSH (Already on current rig)

Still need a good gpu and power supply
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June 3, 2013 8:02:08 PM

Depending on the GPU, you'll need somewhere from a 500w to 550/600w power supply.
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June 3, 2013 8:11:54 PM

Maybe a Radeon 7870 or a GTX 670? Apparently GTX 770's are good, but still a bit expensive.
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June 3, 2013 8:16:10 PM

The 770 shouldn't be more than $50 more than a 670, and you gain a LOT of extra performance. I would consider it worth it.

That being said, there's a huge difference between a 7870 and a 670. Did you mean a 7950 or 7970, perhaps?
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June 3, 2013 8:30:26 PM

DarkSable said:
The 770 shouldn't be more than $50 more than a 670, and you gain a LOT of extra performance. I would consider it worth it.

That being said, there's a huge difference between a 7870 and a 670. Did you mean a 7950 or 7970, perhaps?


OH 7970. Must have missed the 8 key :p 

Edit: I mean 9...
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June 7, 2013 2:45:41 PM

No on both of those.

Well... the GPU should handle THOSE games okay, but the CPU is woefully underpowered. Go with at LEAST a 4300, which is the newer architecture.
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June 7, 2013 2:50:02 PM

DarkSable said:
boondox270 said:
DarkSable said:
The two games you named there are very CPU-bound, not so much graphics bound. I would strongly consider building a rig around an i5-3570k, Hyper 212 EVO, and an AsRock z77 Extreme 4.


Do you know average temp of the i5-3570k without overclocking and about the average after doing so with the Hypser 212 evo?

And would you say this is my best route case wise? > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Great pick on the case, and I couldn't tell you the temps of the i5 under those conditions off the top of my head, but I can tell you that with a good chip, my hyper 212 + with an aftermarket fan got my chip to 4.4v quite easily with no issues with temperatures.

If you can find them, the new 770s coming out are bloody amazing... but also expensive. If you need a more budget option, the 7870 XT as has been suggested is a great card.



DarkSable said:
No on both of those.

Well... the GPU should handle THOSE games okay, but the CPU is woefully underpowered. Go with at LEAST a 4300, which is the newer architecture.


Well, I am now thinking of going with this CPU to stay within my budget > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am just needing to find a good AMD Mobo for that and a good GPU. Everything else should be ok from my list
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June 7, 2013 3:31:56 PM

DarkSable said:
The two games you named there are very CPU-bound, not so much graphics bound. I would strongly consider building a rig around an i5-3570k, Hyper 212 EVO, and an AsRock z77 Extreme 4.


DarkSable said:
No on both of those.

Well... the GPU should handle THOSE games okay, but the CPU is woefully underpowered. Go with at LEAST a 4300, which is the newer architecture.


Nevermind. I am going to go with the 6350 I believe
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