$600-ish Haswell Budget Build.

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Briskk

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Hey guys, now that Haswell is out, I'm planning on building myself a new computer. My current one is 5 years old and is starting to have BSOD's and crashes.
Here's what I came up with.

I don't need a case, PSU, Optical, or HDD.
Dell XPS 630 Case
Dell 750W Power Supply (D750E-00)
Dell D568C DH-16A6S CD-R/RW DVD R/RW IDE Optical Drive (DH-16A6S)
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive



PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1377C
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1377C/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1377C/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($190.71 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $565.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-04 23:56 EDT-0400)


Since the GTX 700 series are coming out, I figure I will get the GTX760 when it debuts. I am willing to go over my budget just a tad bit. Any suggestion you folks can make to save a little more money? I don't plan on OC'ing at all. How are the other Haswel i5? the Intel Core i5-4430? the Intel Core i5-4570? is it worth the extra money for the Intel Core i5-4670? How about the MOBO? What's the difference between B85, H87, and Z87?




This is my current rig.
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz
Dell Xps 630 630i Motherboard (0C113J)
Hynix 8GB (4 x 2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2-800MHz Memory (HMP125U6EFR8C-S6 AB)
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive
PowerColor Radeon HD 5770 1GB Video Card (AX5770)
Dell XPS 630 Case
Dell 750W Power Supply (D750E-00)
Dell D568C DH-16A6S CD-R/RW DVD R/RW IDE Optical Drive (DH-16A6S)
 
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If your not overclocking, don't spend the extra $20 or whatever it is on a K series cpu. Also, don't bother with a Z series if your not overclocking.

Go with a B series motherboard and a regular non k series cpu. Maybe consider 1866 memory instead (it won't be much more expensive and you'll notice a difference, believe me.)

Other then that, everything looks Kosher.
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I would say to go ahead and get a new PSU for starters. I remember reading that some of the older ones won't work well with Haswell since it has some advanced power saving features. As for what parts to use? Hmm. That's tough. I guess since your jumping from a Q8200 (I had one of those, how the heck did you manage to get it to last this long?) Haswell is a good choice. I would go with whatever the i5 version is they are marking with the K letter at the end. I think it's the 4670K (since you aren't OC'ing just get the regular 4670 I guess.) As for motherboards, basically choose whatever manufacturer you are comfortable with. I like Gigabyte and their Sniper series, but in the end, they should all be OK as long as the brand is solid. For memory, again, it's all preference on manufacturer. Patriot is good, but Corsair is better (in my eyes anyhow, but really both are good brands) Try to get 1866 or better though. Normally price differences aren't too bad and you will notice a snappier response time when compared to older 1333.

Video card, it's all you. I personally like to pair Nvidia with Intel, because that works best for games from Blizzard. But it's a battle of inches at this point. Get what fits your budget and what works best on the games you like to play.

Last bits: Consider putting your main OS on a SSD drive (240 GB is about right, if you ask me. Some might think it's too much) and use a Sata III WD Green drive for storage of video and music. And your going to need a new DVD ROM. I don't know of any modern boards that use IDE so your old one is not going to work.

I hope it helps!



 
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Ok I'll look into a new PSU, but in the meanwhile, What do you guys think about the Intel Core i5-4430 vs i5-4570 vs i5-4670? and whats the difference between B85, H87, and Z87?
 
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My advice, get the best CPU you can afford. If you milked a Q8200 for 5 years (how the hell did you do that? I replaced mine in 6 months!) it's worth spending that little bit more this time around.

As for motherboard chipsets, normally the higher end is the Z series. Good for overclockers and people who want the best (aka most) toys with their motherboard. Normally better sound cards built in, higher quality integrated networking cards and normally better cooling (heatsinks) for the vrm's or sfc's (whatever they are calling them now.)

The H Series are normally the entry level. No frills, no really special add-on's (I'm not even sure the H87 even has USB 3 or Sata III to be honest.) Basic as it gets. It'll work fine for a corporate terminal or just web browsing and even some gaming, but that's as much as you can really expect. Also, they are noticeably less expensive (often they are the least expensive option available.)

The B series, that's your middle ground. Say you want all the fancy bells and whistles. Sata III, USB 3, some overclocking headroom, better quality built on goodies like audio and NIC. Also, these are the middle of the range in terms of cost. If it was me, I would look closely at the B series. Not so much for overclocking, but for all the benefits.
 
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Alright, I tweeked some bits and here's what I came up with.

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/13JHc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/13JHc/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/13JHc/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($184.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $726.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-06 18:41 EDT-0400)

Any other suggestions? Is there anyway to save a little money? I'm guessing the 760 is going to be like $250 ish which will raise my budget by around $70.
 
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If your not overclocking, don't spend the extra $20 or whatever it is on a K series cpu. Also, don't bother with a Z series if your not overclocking.

Go with a B series motherboard and a regular non k series cpu. Maybe consider 1866 memory instead (it won't be much more expensive and you'll notice a difference, believe me.)

Other then that, everything looks Kosher.
 
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Briskk

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How's this? I've decided to stick with my 5770 for a little longer and see if the HD 8000 series is good.

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/14EXQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/14EXQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/14EXQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $472.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-09 15:15 EDT-0400)
 
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Very nice. But try for a 600W PSU if you plan to go with a next gen video card, just to err on the side of caution. Otherwise, I'd say your ready to build!
 
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Hi Briskk, have you already upgraded your XPS 630i ? I am about to do the same. Did the mainpcb fit in the chassis? What cooler did you use? Could you share any experiences, hints & tips I need to know before upgrading? How is your PC working? Is it worth upgrading instead of buying a complete new system? Thank you in advance for your support!
 
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