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June 6, 2013 6:25:59 PM

I'm going to be upgrading my 6870 to something more of this gen. The main reason being that my card is just way too loud, but the performance is fine for 1080p gaming.

I'm only looking for:
- Black PCBs and preferably black fan shrouds (I'm getting a side panel with a window, so aesthetics are important)
- Low noise under max stress
- Good cooling while under stress
- 200-280 USD price range
- Play ALL games at 1080p with a combination of Med-High settings

As of now, the Asus GTX 660Ti looks like an awesome deal, but how well does it do with cooling/noise?
June 6, 2013 6:36:16 PM

You can cross the 660ti off your list unless you want ripped off. Either get a 7870 XT or a 7950.. Much better performance for your buck
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June 6, 2013 6:40:17 PM

caydn12 said:
You can cross the 660ti off your list unless you want ripped off. Either get a 7870 XT or a 7950.. Much better performance for your buck


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ACtually its going at a really great price now...

But anyway... OP, do you overclock?
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June 6, 2013 6:45:27 PM

I wouldn't call that a good price..
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June 6, 2013 6:47:00 PM

Novuake said:
caydn12 said:
You can cross the 660ti off your list unless you want ripped off. Either get a 7870 XT or a 7950.. Much better performance for your buck


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ACtually its going at a really great price now...

But anyway... OP, do you overclock?


I meant to address this haha But no, I don't!

I was actually interested in underclocking cards that were factory overclocked, if that's even a thing.
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June 6, 2013 6:51:50 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Well then those would be my suggestion, the GTX 660ti is SLIGHTLY better, not really concrete since its game dependent.

If you did OC, I would suggest an HD7950(since its not much faster stock than the above linked HD7870 XT but can OC the hell out of an HD7970), BUUUT since you don't, save some and go for the almost as fast XT/LE HD7870 OR GTX660 ti...

Personally I would go for the GTX660ti IF i was not a clocker.

EDIT : Oh and the Asus model is one of the most quiet cards you can find.
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June 6, 2013 6:53:28 PM

caydn12 said:
I wouldn't call that a good price..


Oh? 15$ more than the XT HD7870 for an Asus DCII??? Pray tell why its not a good price...
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June 6, 2013 6:59:40 PM

Novuake said:
caydn12 said:
I wouldn't call that a good price..


Oh? 15$ more than the XT HD7870 for an Asus DCII??? Pray tell why its not a good price...


Darn it.. Didn't realize $280-$250=$15... Sorry for my poor math skills. I mess up subtraction sometimes.
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June 6, 2013 7:02:45 PM

caydn12 said:
Novuake said:
caydn12 said:
I wouldn't call that a good price..


Oh? 15$ more than the XT HD7870 for an Asus DCII??? Pray tell why its not a good price...


Darn it.. Didn't realize $280-$250=$15... Sorry for my poor math skills. I mess up subtraction sometimes.


Hmmm I see rebates... But hey. Whatever... Not arguing with you.
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June 6, 2013 7:05:38 PM

I excluded rebates.. However, there are plenty of Randon HD 7950 boosts which are still faster than 660tis at stock for the same price. Which is another reason why 660tis are a waste of money.
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June 6, 2013 7:06:29 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This one's mostly black and it's $284 after rebate. The Vapor X is one of the best 7950's currently built. Given the wider memory bus (384-bit vs 192-bit), larger amount of VRAM, and 4 games that come with it, even at $279 for the 660Ti, I still strongly feel the 7950 is a better deal for the money, and more future proof on top of that.

Also, given the comment about rebates above which I didn't see when I posted this card, even if I excluded the rebate and you paid a flat $304 and got no rebate, even then the 7950 is worth it from a value standpoint, but budgets are budgets so it's your call in the end.
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June 6, 2013 7:08:03 PM

Vyrisus said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This one's mostly black and it's $284 after rebate. The Vapor X is one of the best 7950's currently built. Given the wider memory bus (384-bit vs 192-bit), larger amount of VRAM, and 4 games that come with it, even at $279 for the 660Ti, I still strongly feel the 7950 is a better deal for the money, and more future proof on top of that.


But POINTLESS extra cost above the HD7870 XT/LE if he does not OC...

Besides, Vapor-X is overrated AND voltage locked because of bad VRM cooling.
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June 6, 2013 7:10:44 PM

Novuake said:


But POINTLESS extra cost above the HD7870 XT/LE if he does not OC...



This is actually true, I'm just so used to including OC with the value of the 7950's in my head. You are correct.

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June 6, 2013 7:12:15 PM

caydn12 said:
I excluded rebates.. However, there are plenty of Randon HD 7950 boosts which are still faster than 660tis at stock for the same price. Which is another reason why 660tis are a waste of money.


Look from my perspective, the OP wants a quiet and cool card. You can not argue that the GTX660 ti Asus DCII is MUCH quieter and cooler than ANY Tahiti class card.

Do you see where I am coming from?
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June 6, 2013 7:13:02 PM

Vyrisus said:
Novuake said:


But POINTLESS extra cost above the HD7870 XT/LE if he does not OC...



This is actually true, I'm just so used to including OC with the value of the 7950's in my head. You are correct.



Yeah, have the same issue. LOL. Own an HD7950 myself, well 2 @ 1180MHz each.
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June 6, 2013 7:21:22 PM

The 660ti is a terrible deal as it's memory limited by a big margin. Get the HD 7950 instead.
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June 6, 2013 7:22:24 PM

Darkman69 said:
The 660ti is a terrible deal. Get the HD 7950 instead.


:pfff: 

Geesh I have never been so ashamed to be owning an HD7950...
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June 6, 2013 7:23:15 PM

Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:
The 660ti is a terrible deal. Get the HD 7950 instead.


:pfff: 

Geesh I have never been so ashamed to be owning an HD7950...


Why to powerful for the money ?
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June 6, 2013 7:27:27 PM

Darkman69 said:
Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:
The 660ti is a terrible deal. Get the HD 7950 instead.


:pfff: 

Geesh I have never been so ashamed to be owning an HD7950...


Why to powerful for the money ?


Because the OP is ASKING FOR A QUIET CARD! And all you people can suggest is an HD7950.
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June 6, 2013 7:29:48 PM

Novuake said:


Because the OP is ASKING FOR A QUIET CARD! And all you people can suggest is an HD7950.


Well, my 7950 *is* pretty quiet, but beyond that, I only recommend the 7950 around the pricerange the OP mentioned because I know how good it is, but I also know a fair bit of its potential is wrapped in overclocking which is something the OP doesn't want to do. Upon further examination, I admitted your suggestions were sound. I'm not above being wrong from time to time.

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June 6, 2013 7:29:50 PM

Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:
Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:
The 660ti is a terrible deal. Get the HD 7950 instead.


:pfff: 

Geesh I have never been so ashamed to be owning an HD7950...


Why to powerful for the money ?


Because the OP is ASKING FOR A QUIET CARD! And all you people can suggest is an HD7950.


@ OP

I recommend getting a radeon HD 6670 without a fan, just the heatsink. I promise it wont make ANY noise!!!
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June 6, 2013 7:30:44 PM

Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:
Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:
The 660ti is a terrible deal. Get the HD 7950 instead.


:pfff: 

Geesh I have never been so ashamed to be owning an HD7950...


Why to powerful for the money ?


Because the OP is ASKING FOR A QUIET CARD! And all you people can suggest is an HD7950.


7950 is more powerful and just as quite if not more so than GTX 660ti but without the memory bottleneck of the 660ti. Also noise is directly related to the cooler which changes from card to card so ....
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June 6, 2013 7:33:21 PM

Darkman69 said:

7950 is more powerful and just as quite if not more so than GTX 660ti but without the memory bottleneck of the 660ti. Also noise is directly related to the cooler which changes from card to card so ....


Great you just confirmed that I can ignore you from now on... You are very uninformed.
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June 6, 2013 7:34:18 PM

Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:

7950 is more powerful and just as quite if not more so than GTX 660ti but without the memory bottleneck of the 660ti. Also noise is directly related to the cooler which changes from card to card so ....


Great you just confirmed that I can ignore you from now on... You are very uninformed.


Cite your sources that as you say :every HD card is louder than GTX"
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June 6, 2013 7:46:56 PM

OK so I am gonna take the MOST quiet HD7950 design cooler, the Vapor-x, unless you have a better one??? And the most quiet GTX 660ti design, the Asus DCII.

Vapor-x HD7950 under load:



GTX 660 ti DCII under load :




Or if you will, this is one with the SAME EXACT DCII cooler as the GTX660 ti has :


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June 6, 2013 7:51:13 PM

Yeah but the 6670 without a fan is 0db.. Way better than 25!!
Why not choose that? I mean like youve been saying, performance doesnt matter right? Its purely about noise so... Just get a GPU with no fan.
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June 6, 2013 7:52:17 PM

Novuake said:
OK so I am gonna take the MOST quiet HD7950 design cooler, the Vapor-x, unless :
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Sorry but 795- crushes 660ti. 660ti is with the 7870 stock.
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June 6, 2013 7:53:04 PM

caydn12 said:
Yeah but the 6670 without a fan is 0db.. Way better than 25!!
Why not choose that? I mean like youve been saying, performance doesnt matter right? Its purely about noise so... Just get a GPU with no fan.


You really should learn some respect. I am only following the OPs request. He will be happy with either cards performance. Stop trolling NOW.
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June 6, 2013 7:54:00 PM

Darkman69 said:
Novuake said:
OK so I am gonna take the MOST quiet HD7950 design cooler, the Vapor-x, unless :
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Sorry but 795- crushes 660ti. 660ti is with the 7870 stock.


Over it... Have fun trolling this forum, you will be set right sometime.
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June 6, 2013 7:54:44 PM

Novuake said:
Darkman69 said:
Novuake said:
OK so I am gonna take the MOST quiet HD7950 design cooler, the Vapor-x, unless :
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Sorry but 795- crushes 660ti. 660ti is with the 7870 stock.


Over it... Have fun trolling this forum, you will be set right sometime.


? 7950 is better than GTX 670 so .....

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

HD 7950 also OCs beyond GTX 680 so ....
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June 6, 2013 7:55:58 PM

Novuake said:
caydn12 said:
Yeah but the 6670 without a fan is 0db.. Way better than 25!!
Why not choose that? I mean like youve been saying, performance doesnt matter right? Its purely about noise so... Just get a GPU with no fan.


You really should learn some respect. I am only following the OPs request. He will be happy with either cards performance. Stop trolling NOW.


If anything you are trolling right now. You literally have said that all the OP cares about is noise yet you want to give him a card with 25db.. Im just saying. You're logic sucks..
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June 6, 2013 7:57:31 PM

caydn12 said:
Novuake said:
caydn12 said:
Yeah but the 6670 without a fan is 0db.. Way better than 25!!
Why not choose that? I mean like youve been saying, performance doesnt matter right? Its purely about noise so... Just get a GPU with no fan.


You really should learn some respect. I am only following the OPs request. He will be happy with either cards performance. Stop trolling NOW.


If anything you are trolling right now. You literally have said that all the OP cares about is noise yet you want to give him a card with 25db.. Im just saying. You're logic sucks..


:pfff:  Really?
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June 6, 2013 7:58:06 PM

Novuake said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Well then those would be my suggestion, the GTX 660ti is SLIGHTLY better, not really concrete since its game dependent.

If you did OC, I would suggest an HD7950(since its not much faster stock than the above linked HD7870 XT but can OC the hell out of an HD7970), BUUUT since you don't, save some and go for the almost as fast XT/LE HD7870 OR GTX660 ti...

Personally I would go for the GTX660ti IF i was not a clocker.

EDIT : Oh and the Asus model is one of the most quiet cards you can find.


This answers everything. Now I just have to decide if I want all of those games, or slightly more performance :p 
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June 6, 2013 7:59:50 PM

Vyrisus said:
Novuake said:


Because the OP is ASKING FOR A QUIET CARD! And all you people can suggest is an HD7950.


Well, my 7950 *is* pretty quiet, but beyond that, I only recommend the 7950 around the pricerange the OP mentioned because I know how good it is, but I also know a fair bit of its potential is wrapped in overclocking which is something the OP doesn't want to do. Upon further examination, I admitted your suggestions were sound. I'm not above being wrong from time to time.



Neither am I, and i agree with your assesment of this price range. BUT in this case, I can not bring myself to suggest an HD7950 at all. At most an HD7870 XT/LE... But considering he want a quieter card, I mean am I wrong to think Nvidia is IN THIS CASE a better option?
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June 6, 2013 8:03:09 PM

How would a Asus DCU2 7870 compare to a Asus DCU2 660ti performance wise?

Any charts for that?
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June 6, 2013 8:05:48 PM

Novuake said:


Neither am I, and i agree with your assesment of this price range. BUT in this case, I can not bring myself to suggest an HD7950 at all. At most an HD7870 XT/LE... But considering he want a quieter card, I mean am I wrong to think Nvidia is IN THIS CASE a better option?


Nope, after looking at it closer, I don't think you were wrong at all. I'm not here to troll, and I don't need to be right all the time. If I realize my suggestion may not have been the best, I will readily admit it, as I did. Like I said, it gets to be habit including the 7950's overclocking capabilities in with the total value of the card, but in this particular case with noise and no overclocking as part of the OP's stipulations, the 660Ti at $279 is a good option. The 7870XT is another good one.

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June 6, 2013 8:08:29 PM

The Halo Don said:
Novuake said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Well then those would be my suggestion, the GTX 660ti is SLIGHTLY better, not really concrete since its game dependent.

If you did OC, I would suggest an HD7950(since its not much faster stock than the above linked HD7870 XT but can OC the hell out of an HD7970), BUUUT since you don't, save some and go for the almost as fast XT/LE HD7870 OR GTX660 ti...

Personally I would go for the GTX660ti IF i was not a clocker.

EDIT : Oh and the Asus model is one of the most quiet cards you can find.


This answers everything. Now I just have to decide if I want all of those games, or slightly more performance :p 


The Halo Don said:
How would a Asus DCU2 7870 compare to a Asus DCU2 660ti performance wise?

Any charts for that?


The HD7870 and HD7870XT/LE are 2 VERY different cards. There is no Asus XT/LE version.
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June 6, 2013 8:09:49 PM

Vyrisus said:
Novuake said:


Neither am I, and i agree with your assesment of this price range. BUT in this case, I can not bring myself to suggest an HD7950 at all. At most an HD7870 XT/LE... But considering he want a quieter card, I mean am I wrong to think Nvidia is IN THIS CASE a better option?


Nope, after looking at it closer, I don't think you were wrong at all. I'm not here to troll, and I don't need to be right all the time. If I realize my suggestion may not have been the best, I will readily admit it, as I did. Like I said, it gets to be habit including the 7950's overclocking capabilities in with the total value of the card, but in this particular case with noise and no overclocking as part of the OP's stipulations, the 660Ti at $279 is a good option. The 7870XT is another good one.



Thank you... Needed that reassurance. :p 
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June 6, 2013 8:12:33 PM

Novuake said:


Thank you... Needed that reassurance. :p 


No problem :) 

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June 6, 2013 8:16:06 PM

Vyrisus said:
Novuake said:


Thank you... Needed that reassurance. :p 


No problem :) 



Hope to see more of you, newbie... :D 

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June 6, 2013 8:29:02 PM

Novuake said:
The Halo Don said:
Novuake said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Well then those would be my suggestion, the GTX 660ti is SLIGHTLY better, not really concrete since its game dependent.

If you did OC, I would suggest an HD7950(since its not much faster stock than the above linked HD7870 XT but can OC the hell out of an HD7970), BUUUT since you don't, save some and go for the almost as fast XT/LE HD7870 OR GTX660 ti...

Personally I would go for the GTX660ti IF i was not a clocker.

EDIT : Oh and the Asus model is one of the most quiet cards you can find.


This answers everything. Now I just have to decide if I want all of those games, or slightly more performance :p 


The Halo Don said:
How would a Asus DCU2 7870 compare to a Asus DCU2 660ti performance wise?

Any charts for that?


The HD7870 and HD7870XT/LE are 2 VERY different cards. There is no Asus XT/LE version.


I just noticed that...and let the over thinking continue haha
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June 6, 2013 8:37:38 PM

The best answer that no has yet given is that, really, you should wait about a week for the GTX 760 to be released. It's likely going to be better than a GTX 670 for about $300. That will definitely be your best value and fulfill all of your purchase criteria. This conversation will pretty much be passe at that point.
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June 6, 2013 8:39:58 PM

17seconds said:
The best answer that no has yet given is that, really, you should wait about a week for the GTX 760 to be released. It's likely going to be better than a GTX 670 for about $300. That will definitely be your best value and fulfill all of your purchase criteria. This conversation will pretty much be passe at that point.


GTX 760 ti? Cuz I sure as hell do not think a GTX760 will surpass a GTX670 THIS time round... LOL
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June 6, 2013 8:44:12 PM

Novuake said:
17seconds said:
The best answer that no has yet given is that, really, you should wait about a week for the GTX 760 to be released. It's likely going to be better than a GTX 670 for about $300. That will definitely be your best value and fulfill all of your purchase criteria. This conversation will pretty much be passe at that point.


GTX 760 ti? Cuz I sure as hell do not think a GTX760 will surpass a GTX670 THIS time round... LOL

There's been some confusing reports coming out of Computex with the GTX 760 being shown off with a 256-bit interface, indicating that may be the "rebranded/improved" GTX 670. There may not be a "Ti" version.
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June 6, 2013 8:47:25 PM

17seconds said:

There's been some confusing reports coming out of Computex with the GTX 760 being shown off with a 256-bit interface, indicating that may be the "rebranded/improved" GTX 670. There may not be a "Ti" version.


Hmmm interesting... Well "ti" version until AMD rolls out. Then Nvidia will fill the gap most likely...

Traditionally the GTXx60 and GTXx70 have been a large margin apart.
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July 23, 2013 11:33:50 AM

get a non-reference card for any of them, they run much cooler and quieter, just pick the one which you like the look of
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