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Newbie/layman need build advice for $1500 gaming PC plus some general questions

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June 7, 2013 1:28:20 AM

Hi all,

I've been lurking for a week now and I just signed up to seek advice if the parts I picked are compatible and generally make sense (meaning I am not buying an overpriced gpu for a paltry mobo or has features I'm never going to use... something like that).

I started to seriously read up on PC parts and building JUST in the last two weeks so forgive me if I am a little slow with the jargon.

Approximate Purchase Date: June to August
Country: Philippines
Budget Range: $1500 or lower (about PHP60,000)
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: logicalincrements.com*
*Pick Philippines on the country tab, I am looking at parts from the Excellent to Outstanding tier.

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming on max settings (mostly online FPS, Crysis, BF3, Planetside 2, and next gen games)
Record gameplay using MSI Afterburner (720p, 1080p possible?)
some video editing

Parts Preferences:
GPU: GTX 670 - various brands and prices here (PHP16,000 - PHP20,000)
Is the Palit GPU good? Or do I shell out the additional ~$100/PHP 4,000 for the MSI ones?

MOBO: Asus P8Z77 V (PHP 9,270)
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked (PHP 9,740)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP 1x8gb DDR3 1600 CL10 CML8GX3M1A1600C10 (PHP 2,980)
Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Turbo Dual Fan (PHP 1,800)

Running total: PHP 39,790 - PHP 43,790

Budget remaining for the following is PHP20,000 or lower**
PSU: No idea what to look for in a PSU. I just know that it would be a corsair brand.
Case: No idea. Should I be looking for a $100 case?
OS: Windows 7? 64 bit?
SSD/HDD: SSD brand advice would be appreciated. I'd probably be aiming for a 1TB HDD.
OD: No idea too but is not a priority lol.

**-hopefully lower since I didn't include the desk, monitor, keyboard, speakers, in that budget.

Overclocking: No experience here. It easily reaches 32C/90F during the summer months so I don't know if it's alright to do so. However, I am aware that I have listed parts there that are optimized for overclocking... so I am unsure as to what to do.

Monitor Resolution: No idea what the card would be capable of handling. I am thinking of getting a 22" or 24" LCD monitor though. What specs should I be looking for?

SLI or Crossfire: I've read countless forum posts about bugs and what-not so I'd avoid this for now.

Additional Questions:
I've read that cases and PSUs should last you through several builds, is the same true for mobos? Will my chosen mobo support future intel (haswell?) upgrades? (I have a feeling the answer is no... lol)

Should I be seriously considering AMD over Nvidia since AMD got all the next gen console deals? Will it matter?

RAM: Is there a benefit to buying 2x4gb? or it's OK that I stick with the 1x8gb and just add another 8gb in the future?

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June 7, 2013 2:32:05 AM

Few comments
  • I'd normally recommend one from Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA, or Sapphire. 7950 or 670. Palit are OK, but the coolers are usually rather loud and relatively ineffective.
  • MB is a bit overpriced/overkill. My advice is a GA-Z77X-D3H or ASRock Z77 Extreme4.
  • Get 2x4GB RAM - DDR3-1600, CL9 (or lower), 1.5V (or lower). Corsair, G.Skill, Crucial, Team, Kingston, GEIL, or a couple of other brands are good. They basically all come out of the same factories.
  • About 500W+ from any of the brands in my signature.
  • I kind of like the Bitfenix Shinobi, but it's largely a choice of what you want it to look like.
  • I'd probably look at a Samsung 840. 128GB, and a 500GB-1TB storage drive. Cheapest you can get, ideally 7200RPM.
  • Cheapest ODD you can find.
  • If you don't want to OC, drop the aftermarket cooler, go to an i5-3470 or 3350P, and get a cheaper H77 or B75 MB from MSI, Asus, Asrock, or Gigabyte. Or you can go Haswell with an 8-series chipset.

  • Intel breaks it's compatibility chains quite often - you need a new MB for Haswell, though that will support Broadwell. Skylake will need another new MB.
  • Both are fine, but I'd be seriously considering AMD too.
  • Really want 2x4GB - you get double the memory bandwidth. Win7 Home Premium only supports 16GB of RAM, and most boards have four RAM slots.
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June 7, 2013 10:00:42 AM

Wow, thanks for the reply :) 

Someone Somewhere said:
Few comments
  • I'd normally recommend one from Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA, or Sapphire. 7950 or 670. Palit are OK, but the coolers are usually rather loud and relatively ineffective.
  • MB is a bit overpriced/overkill. My advice is a GA-Z77X-D3H or ASRock Z77 Extreme4.


  • Alright, I'll consider the MSI then given what I could save from changing the motherboard. Leaning toward the gigabyte one but searches for that here come up empty (I just see GA-Z77X-UD3H or GA-Z77X-UD5H)

    Someone Somewhere said:

    • If you don't want to OC, drop the aftermarket cooler, go to an i5-3470 or 3350P, and get a cheaper H77 or B75 MB from MSI, Asus, Asrock, or Gigabyte. Or you can go Haswell with an 8-series chipset.

    • Intel breaks it's compatibility chains quite often - you need a new MB for Haswell, though that will support Broadwell. Skylake will need another new MB.


  • Yeah, I don't think I'd be going haswell based on the articles I've read online. Leaning towards intel though. I'm not really against OCing it's just that I don't have the knowledge for it.

    Thanks for that explanation on RAM.
    Would you suggest getting windows 8 or 7?
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    June 7, 2013 10:11:12 AM

    Quote:
    Alright, I'll consider the MSI then given what I could save from changing the motherboard. Leaning toward the gigabyte one but searches for that here come up empty (I just see GA-Z77X-UD3H or GA-Z77X-UD5H)


    I've had bad luck with MSI in the past and I normally wouldn't advise going with them.

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    Yeah, I don't think I'd be going haswell based on the articles I've read online. Leaning towards intel though. I'm not really against OCing it's just that I don't have the knowledge for it.


    If you're buying a new rig, you should always get the latest hardware that's out. Don't let a few slightly negative articles put you off of going Haswell, the Z87 chipset is a huge improvement over Z77, and the GPUs from NVIDIA are really excellent. What store are you buying from?
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    June 7, 2013 10:49:03 AM

    g-unit1111 said:
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    Alright, I'll consider the MSI then given what I could save from changing the motherboard. Leaning toward the gigabyte one but searches for that here come up empty (I just see GA-Z77X-UD3H or GA-Z77X-UD5H)


    I've had bad luck with MSI in the past and I normally wouldn't advise going with them.

    Quote:
    Yeah, I don't think I'd be going haswell based on the articles I've read online. Leaning towards intel though. I'm not really against OCing it's just that I don't have the knowledge for it.


    If you're buying a new rig, you should always get the latest hardware that's out. Don't let a few slightly negative articles put you off of going Haswell, the Z87 chipset is a huge improvement over Z77, and the GPUs from NVIDIA are really excellent. What store are you buying from?


    MSI GPUs? Well they're the only branded choice aside from Palit brands here.
    OK, will research more on Haswell then but worried it will mess up with my budget though... what exactly do the Z87 have over the Z77?

    I'm in the Philippines and there's no real reliable site like amazon or newegg, so I'm using logicalincrements.com as a guide, then would most likely be going over to the stores myself.

    I'd most likely be buying from the first two though:
    PCHub
    Dynaquestpc
    PCnetmiles


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    June 8, 2013 3:00:06 AM

    MSI's coolers are great. Strong recommend.

    Haswell isn't worth the $80+ premium at the moment. Only advantage of the new chipsets are an extra pair of USB3.0 ports and six SATA6 ports (instead of 2xSATA6+4xSATA3). Unless you plan to run more than two SSDs, it's a non-issue.
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    June 8, 2013 10:49:20 AM

    OK, thanks for the reply. gonna do more research then and compare haswell vs ivy prices here.
    Looks like I'm gonna have to rethink my build (switch to a gtx 770) since it looks like I can save a lot if I get a relative to buy parts for me in the US.
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    June 8, 2013 11:11:59 AM

    tags said:
    OK, thanks for the reply. gonna do more research then and compare haswell vs ivy prices here.
    Looks like I'm gonna have to rethink my build (switch to a gtx 770) since it looks like I can save a lot if I get a relative to buy parts for me in the US.


    You should check power requirements and the cost of importing goods from the US to the Philippenes before buying. Often times you don't come out ahead that way, which is why I always recommend buying locally.
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    June 8, 2013 9:44:02 PM

    g-unit1111 said:
    tags said:
    OK, thanks for the reply. gonna do more research then and compare haswell vs ivy prices here.
    Looks like I'm gonna have to rethink my build (switch to a gtx 770) since it looks like I can save a lot if I get a relative to buy parts for me in the US.


    You should check power requirements and the cost of importing goods from the US to the Philippenes before buying. Often times you don't come out ahead that way, which is why I always recommend buying locally.


    I actually just plan to buy the 770 there (~$400) because its ~$500 here. :heink: 
    The rest, I will buy locally.

    No cost of importing if its in my uncle's luggage. :p 
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