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June 7, 2013 11:09:52 AM

So this summer I have a budget of $1,200 to spend on a computer. Right now i have two build options right now, and I have no idea which to choose.

1st build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/13ZQf

2nd build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/140Fy

I create YouTube videos so I need a CPU that has good Multithreaded support, and I would like my GPU to last for a minimum of 2 years.

My reason for considering the AMD CPU is the new Steamroller chip is supposed to use the same socket and AMD CPUs have great multithreaded performance.

Another Option is to get a Sandy-E bridge and upgrade when Ivy-E bridge comes out but I dont know if I will have to money in the future to upgrade.

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June 7, 2013 11:17:33 AM

What games do you plan to play? Which will you be doing more, creating videos or gaming?
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June 7, 2013 11:17:54 AM

Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.
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June 7, 2013 11:29:49 AM

realchaos said:
What games do you plan to play? Which will you be doing more, creating videos or gaming?


Call of Duty, BF4, Crysis 3, Minecraft, Dota... so basicly i will be trying all the games I can find :) 
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June 7, 2013 11:31:11 AM

game junky said:

I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion.


Most definately this!
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June 7, 2013 11:32:06 AM

game junky said:
Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.


So should I go with the AMD or Intel build? O_o
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June 7, 2013 11:37:58 AM

Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.
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June 7, 2013 11:50:05 AM

bhale7 said:
Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.


I do plan on overclocking. How well does the I7-4770k overclock? I've heard of people having to bump their voltages to 1.5v just to get to 4.5 ghz.
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June 7, 2013 12:16:39 PM

Marshmalllowman said:
bhale7 said:
Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.


I do plan on overclocking. How well does the I7-4770k overclock? I've heard of people having to bump their voltages to 1.5v just to get to 4.5 ghz.


You'll need to swap out the B85 board with a Z87 board, then.

Initial reports suggest that Haswell needs more cooling. I'd suggest taking a look at this benchmark:

http://techreport.com/review/24889/haswell-overclocked-...

That's a pretty thorough write-up on the overclocking ability of the i7-4770k. It looks like they were able to get it to 4.5GHz on 1.275V.
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June 7, 2013 12:42:30 PM

bhale7 said:
Marshmalllowman said:
bhale7 said:
Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.


I do plan on overclocking. How well does the I7-4770k overclock? I've heard of people having to bump their voltages to 1.5v just to get to 4.5 ghz.


You'll need to swap out the B85 board with a Z87 board, then.

Initial reports suggest that Haswell needs more cooling. I'd suggest taking a look at this benchmark:

http://techreport.com/review/24889/haswell-overclocked-...

That's a pretty thorough write-up on the overclocking ability of the i7-4770k. It looks like they were able to get it to 4.5GHz on 1.275V.


I updated the link with a Z87 Mobo.

Will the cooler I have on the parts list work for a 4.5 overclock?
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June 7, 2013 1:08:13 PM

Marshmalllowman said:
game junky said:
Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.


So should I go with the AMD or Intel build? O_o


If I were you, I would go with the Intel build. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with my bulldozer but you are going to get a lot better overall performance from that Haswell proc.
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June 7, 2013 1:27:18 PM

game junky said:
Marshmalllowman said:
game junky said:
Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.


So should I go with the AMD or Intel build? O_o


If I were you, I would go with the Intel build. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with my bulldozer but you are going to get a lot better overall performance from that Haswell proc.


How long do you think the gtx 770 will last?
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June 7, 2013 1:34:33 PM

Haswell would probably be better. I made a few changes to it:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($147.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($62.05 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1217.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-07 16:32 EDT-0400)

It is a bit more expensive but:
-I put in a higher quality psu. Its only $15 more and the XFX one is far more reliable. Also, its 80+ GOLD
-Since you got a high watt psu, you were probably thinking about SLI'ing the 770. The MSI board you chose doesn't support SLI but the Asus one does.
-2x4gb for dual channel ram. It will perform better than 1x8gb.
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June 7, 2013 1:52:22 PM

realchaos said:
Haswell would probably be better. I made a few changes to it:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($147.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($62.05 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1217.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-07 16:32 EDT-0400)

It is a bit more expensive but:
-I put in a higher quality psu. Its only $15 more and the XFX one is far more reliable. Also, its 80+ GOLD
-Since you got a high watt psu, you were probably thinking about SLI'ing the 770. The MSI board you chose doesn't support SLI but the Asus one does.
-2x4gb for dual channel ram. It will perform better than 1x8gb.


Thank You! I will use this list.
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June 7, 2013 1:52:53 PM

BTW do you guys think i need more case fans or is the 4 enough?
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June 7, 2013 2:25:19 PM

the two fans from the case should provide enough airflow already, but the extra two will provide some more airflow and add to aesthetics.
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