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So this summer I have a budget of $1,200 to spend on a computer. Right now i have two build options right now, and I have no idea which to choose.

1st build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/13ZQf

2nd build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/140Fy

I create YouTube videos so I need a CPU that has good Multithreaded support, and I would like my GPU to last for a minimum of 2 years.

My reason for considering the AMD CPU is the new Steamroller chip is supposed to use the same socket and AMD CPUs have great multithreaded performance.

Another Option is to get a Sandy-E bridge and upgrade when Ivy-E bridge comes out but I dont know if I will have to money in the future to upgrade.
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  1. What games do you plan to play? Which will you be doing more, creating videos or gaming?
  2. Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

    I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.
  3. realchaos said:
    What games do you plan to play? Which will you be doing more, creating videos or gaming?


    Call of Duty, BF4, Crysis 3, Minecraft, Dota... so basicly i will be trying all the games I can find :)
  4. game junky said:

    I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion.


    Most definately this!
  5. game junky said:
    Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

    I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.


    So should I go with the AMD or Intel build? O_o
  6. Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.
  7. bhale7 said:
    Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.


    I do plan on overclocking. How well does the I7-4770k overclock? I've heard of people having to bump their voltages to 1.5v just to get to 4.5 ghz.
  8. Marshmalllowman said:
    bhale7 said:
    Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.


    I do plan on overclocking. How well does the I7-4770k overclock? I've heard of people having to bump their voltages to 1.5v just to get to 4.5 ghz.


    You'll need to swap out the B85 board with a Z87 board, then.

    Initial reports suggest that Haswell needs more cooling. I'd suggest taking a look at this benchmark:

    http://techreport.com/review/24889/haswell-overclocked-the-core-i7-4770k-at-4-7ghz

    That's a pretty thorough write-up on the overclocking ability of the i7-4770k. It looks like they were able to get it to 4.5GHz on 1.275V.
  9. bhale7 said:
    Marshmalllowman said:
    bhale7 said:
    Go with the i7-4770K build. You could also drop the PSU to 600W if you aren't planning on SLI in the future. And, if you're not overclocking, go with the i7-4770. Otherwise you'll need to get a Z87 board. The B85 chipset doesn't support overclocking.


    I do plan on overclocking. How well does the I7-4770k overclock? I've heard of people having to bump their voltages to 1.5v just to get to 4.5 ghz.


    You'll need to swap out the B85 board with a Z87 board, then.

    Initial reports suggest that Haswell needs more cooling. I'd suggest taking a look at this benchmark:

    http://techreport.com/review/24889/haswell-overclocked-the-core-i7-4770k-at-4-7ghz

    That's a pretty thorough write-up on the overclocking ability of the i7-4770k. It looks like they were able to get it to 4.5GHz on 1.275V.


    I updated the link with a Z87 Mobo.

    Will the cooler I have on the parts list work for a 4.5 overclock?
  10. Marshmalllowman said:
    game junky said:
    Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

    I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.


    So should I go with the AMD or Intel build? O_o


    If I were you, I would go with the Intel build. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with my bulldozer but you are going to get a lot better overall performance from that Haswell proc.
  11. game junky said:
    Marshmalllowman said:
    game junky said:
    Dollars to donuts, CPU is the more important resource for what you're wanting to do combined with day to day usage. Haswell is going to treat very well. I have an 8150 and that sucker puts out some serious heat - I am very happy with my user experience and it does some impressive encoding for me as I rip my bluray archives and it also tackles even Battlefield with ease. That 770 is comparable to a 680 which is more than sufficient to run all current gen games at max settings @ 1080p - unless you're doing Nvidia surround, I think you can stick with that card for the next couple of years.

    I would throw in a SSD for your operating system to run on - biggest thing you'll know in day to day tasks in my opinion. I like the Samsung 840 Pro series and the Intel 520s - boths are near bulletproof and are psychotically quick.


    So should I go with the AMD or Intel build? O_o


    If I were you, I would go with the Intel build. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with my bulldozer but you are going to get a lot better overall performance from that Haswell proc.


    How long do you think the gtx 770 will last?
  12. Best answer
    Haswell would probably be better. I made a few changes to it:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ NCIX US)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($147.55 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($62.05 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
    Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1217.51
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-07 16:32 EDT-0400)

    It is a bit more expensive but:
    -I put in a higher quality psu. Its only $15 more and the XFX one is far more reliable. Also, its 80+ GOLD
    -Since you got a high watt psu, you were probably thinking about SLI'ing the 770. The MSI board you chose doesn't support SLI but the Asus one does.
    -2x4gb for dual channel ram. It will perform better than 1x8gb.
  13. realchaos said:
    Haswell would probably be better. I made a few changes to it:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ NCIX US)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($147.55 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($62.05 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: NZXT Tempest 210 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
    Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case Fan: NZXT FZ-120mm LED 59.1 CFM 120mm Fan ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1217.51
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-07 16:32 EDT-0400)

    It is a bit more expensive but:
    -I put in a higher quality psu. Its only $15 more and the XFX one is far more reliable. Also, its 80+ GOLD
    -Since you got a high watt psu, you were probably thinking about SLI'ing the 770. The MSI board you chose doesn't support SLI but the Asus one does.
    -2x4gb for dual channel ram. It will perform better than 1x8gb.


    Thank You! I will use this list.
  14. BTW do you guys think i need more case fans or is the 4 enough?
  15. the two fans from the case should provide enough airflow already, but the extra two will provide some more airflow and add to aesthetics.
  16. Thanks for all the help guys!
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