I asked AMD about the 8120 and the 3570k.

Holdemnutz

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I pretty much asked what the difference would be in the two for present and future and got an honest answer:

If you are going with a Radeon 7870 already, that will already remove one advantage of the 3570K in that it has the integrated Intel 4000 GPU. The 8120 does perform a little slower than the i5-3570K (once the FX-patch from Microsoft for Windows 7 has been installed), but the fact that the 8120 is $50 cheaper and the AM3+ socket appears to be around for at least 2 more generations of CPUs (if not more) makes it much easier to upgrade your system in 1-3 years, against the 3570K where you won't have too many options for upgrade at that time.

The other advantage of the 8120 is that it performs better with the 7870 than an Intel CPU would. With the Vision Engine Control Center, you can customize CPU and GPU settings to work better together in the same application, and performance/efficiency will be better with the 8120.

The 3570K will be a more powerful CPU, but not significantly. You're looking at roughly 10-20% better performance on the 3570K, but at 35% higher pricing. The 8120 also features more CPU functionality for future software releases (FMA4/XOP, which aren't used as much now but will be implemented by more software in the future). This helps to make the 8120 a much better future-proof option, not being obsolete or rendering your motherboard obsolete as well.

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DSzymborski

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Shorter honest answer: I rather have the 3570k than the 8120 with a 7870 or a 7870XT. With a 770 or a 680. On a train or in the rain. The price difference (now in the $30-$40 range) is worth going from a disappointing Bulldozer to a rock-solid Ivy Bridge. You can get the 8320 for the same price as the 8120 now.
 
Almost like going to the Ford dealership and asking if you should buy a ford or a chevy - lols
He is correct on the AM3+ allowing for longer time frame of upgrade problem is two years downstream the MB features have changed enough that it warrantes changing the MB, so not really a valid argument.
In every one of my upgrades, it was not so much about the CPU as it was about the MB features, IE going SATA I-> sata II - Sata III from 3rd party controller -> Native SATA III support. Then USB 1->2 -> 3 (3r party) -> native USB3. Then the Pci-e v1----> 3.0 and The number of available PCI-e x16 slots. To me these were and are a bigger driver for Upgrade than the CPU performance increase.

Then there is the diff between support, ie AMD's revisions of driver’s vs Intel's revision. Unfortunately AMD is having some financial problems that have impacted their ability to update drivers when compared to Intel.
Comment on Software development (includes 3rd party Hardware) - Development of software and hardware is driven by money and are optimized for the largest audience - 80% Intel vs 20 % AMD. You would optimize for Intel and HOPE for same performance on AMD. (PS most software is not CPU type specific).
... When you look at reviews of SSDs (benchmarks), look at the test bed - Vast majority are intel based.

Not really a Intel fanboy. But just providing some of the comments from the other car dealership.
 

AMDs graphics drivers are a lot better than Intel's though.
 

ihog

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Not necessarily--it's just that the integrated graphics are weak, as is expected.
 
If your into gaming WHO is going to use a Lowly intel iDGP, or a LOW end AMD iGPU/dGPU - Your going to get a AMD or Nvidia mid->upper end Card

And for a Non gaming laptop I'm very happy with a i5-2410M, HD3000 coupled with a 540M GPU and my non gaming desktop 2500K (OCed), w/AMD 7850 GPU
 

ihog

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Silly me--I assumed you were talking about AMD's dedicated GPU drivers.