IDE drive not showing in Bios

7munkee

Distinguished
Dec 30, 2010
57
1
18,545
Hello guys, a little problem that has me perplexed. I am running my comp on a sata drive and have been for a while. Recently a friend bought several new IDE drives for a good price and gave me an 80 GB one. I hooked it up and BIOS is not detecting it. Tried the drive and cable in another comp and it shows up. But in my system it is simply not showing.

Jumpers are set correctly and cable and drive are both good. Tried three different molex plugs, resetting BIOS to default, running w/o a jumper, unhooking everything but the IDE drive, new ide cable, clearing Cmos, and i even blew out the IDE port on the MOBO with canned air.

Ive used an IDE drive on this comp before, but unhooked it to allow better airflow. This is the only IDE drive I have. Sata drive runs great.
 

FAMDUCK

Honorable
May 18, 2013
61
0
10,660
What motherboard are you using? Is it a SATA board that also has IDE on it or are you using some sort of IDE to SATA adapter?

How many other IDE devices are on your PC? If it is the only one, even if it is not your system drive, set it to master.

Have you tried looking for it in Disk Management in Windows? Even if the drive isn't being detected by BIOS, there is a chance that Windows might be able to see it. In the start menu search bar, type in "disk management" then click the result "create and manage hard disk partitions" and see if it is listed there.

In your BIOS, is there a setting to switch between AHCI & IDE? Try setting it in IDE.
 

7munkee

Distinguished
Dec 30, 2010
57
1
18,545
Im using an Asrock m3a770 and there is only one IDE connector. This drive is the only IDE device.

And yes there is power to the molex ( i ised an adapter to hook it to my sata drive)

disc managment shows nothing and my bios is set to IDE

Ive tried master, cable select, and even no jumper
 

FAMDUCK

Honorable
May 18, 2013
61
0
10,660


So if you are on the screen on pg. 49, the first value is "auto" and everything under it is "not detected"? Can that first value be changed at all, or is it locked? If you can select it or scroll to it, if you press enter do you get a different menu? What I am asking, can you get to the screen on page 50 at all?
 

7munkee

Distinguished
Dec 30, 2010
57
1
18,545
AHCI will only effect the sata drive and I am having problems with the IDE drive. My sata is giving me no problems.

If i disable the onboard sata contoller then i have no drives at all. :)
 
Ton switch to AHCI from IDE you need to reload windows after setting the BIOS to AHCI.

But this is a registry switch that works. I have used it.

Press Windows + R key, type regedit, then navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\msahci. Then right-click the word Start on the right-side and click Modify. Change the value in the window to "0" and click OK. Exit Regedit, reboot the system, and change your sata controller to AHCI; you will boot right into Windows.

To set your system back to IDE, just follow the same steps and reset the value back to what is was. Reboot and set your BIOS back to IDE and then boot into Windows.

 

7munkee

Distinguished
Dec 30, 2010
57
1
18,545


Yeah, I read how to do that last night, but since this is an IDE drive, changing the sata setup will have no effect on my problem. I will try it anyway just for the lulz and let you know the results.
 

7munkee

Distinguished
Dec 30, 2010
57
1
18,545
Changed to AHCI and still no IDE in BIOS or in Disc Managment. I changed it back and reformatted the IDE in my aunts PC and still nothing. Could my IDE channel fry w/o taking anything else with it?
 
Have you tried all those settings, like the one about 32-Bit communication or something? I'd go thru all the settings in your BIOS that have anything to do with the controller. You might even try disabling the sata controller. If all settings fail, then you can always get an adapter to hook that IDE drive into one of your sata ports.
 

ShadeTreeTech

Distinguished
Jun 23, 2011
95
0
18,660
Could the EIDE controller fail and the mainboard be still good? Certainly. I've seen it several times, especially now that the EIDE controllers are tacked on as an after thought and not very good quality. Go back about 8 years, and it was the add on SATA controllers that were failing. Also, anything else integrated into the mainboard, NICs, sound cards, video cards, PCI slots... any or all of the above I've seen at one time or another.

Your best shot at getting it to work would be to set the drive jumpers to Master, use an EIDE cable (80 wires), plug the drive into the end of the cable (that is master by default, end is slave on a 40wire cable). Leave the EIDE settings as default (Auto) in the BIOS (but make sure it is enabled), and load windows. Check for the drive in disk management.

Failing that, swap cables (for one that you KNOW works), and finally swap to a known good IDE HDD. Like possibly the HDD and cable from your aunt's computer, if it's IDE. If all fail, then likely the EIDE controller has failed. Any solid shop can run a mainboard test on that board to see if the controller is any good, but that will run you some $$.
 

7munkee

Distinguished
Dec 30, 2010
57
1
18,545
Sorry for the slow response, but I had a computer meltdown. I tried flashing my BIOS and something went wrong. ( first time i had a failed bios flash) Well, my mainboard mysteriously came back up this morning. Still no IDE.

I am going to assume that my IDE controller is shot and order an addon card from the egg. Pity, this board is less than 2 yrs old.